you people don't listen
POSTED BY: sanmi77
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 22:00
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let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.
I keep trying to leave but every time I post something "you people" wont let it go time after time a new post but I hate to leave I love to read fanfics and news about serenity but now every time I come here I see my old posts that I had posted yesterday and they keep saying how I'm such a ass hole and then I say Im sorry but It seems to me you find joy in others mistakes and rather punish them than forgive them but I say let he who has not sinned cast the first stone and If you are which I bet you will say that you are perfect then I will leave but if you are not then just leave this hole thing in the past.
in case of the rapture the car is yours
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Originally posted by sanmi77:
let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.
I keep trying to leave but every time I post something "you people" wont let it go time after time a new post but I hate to leave I love to read fanfics and news about serenity but now every time I come here I see my old posts that I had posted yesterday and they keep saying how I'm such a ass hole and then I say Im sorry but It seems to me you find joy in others mistakes and rather punish them than forgive them but I say let he who has not sinned cast the first stone and If you are which I bet you will say that you are perfect then I will leave but if you are not then just leave this hole thing in the past.
in case of the rapture the car is yours
(a) we are pretty damn near perfection (or I may just be speaking for myself).
(b) how's about a bit of lurking and a little less posting ... lurkers have fun too ...
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Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
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'Lish The Goddess (of Football, too, it turns out) wrote:
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I will NEVER forgive jerry jones and jimmy johnson for what they did to the LEGEND Tom Landry. For that reason alone, they will burn in hell.
You're not wrong for feeling that way. I've been a Cowboys fan since the age of six (1964). Being a male child from Texas in that era, it was kind of a slam dunk. My earliest memory of fandom was watching a game between the Cowboys and the Los Angeles Rams (remember when LA had a team?). My father was a Rams fan since WWII, my grandfather a Cowboys fan. I was really only interested in the Cowboys logo of a chaps-, spurs- and hat-wearing rider astride a pony in full gallop. That's propaganda/marketing! (NB: Conversely, I would gladly kneecap their current mascot 'Rowdy' and watch him bleed out, even though his costume is based on the logo of my memories.)
When Jones took over the team and promptly fired Landry, I was as outraged as any Cowboys or NFL fan could be about the way it was done. It was disrespectful.
Having said that, the Cowboys fans knew Landry was past his prime as a coach by at least 3 years. He was definitely showing signs of senility (a term I don't use lightly), while showing no signs of retiring gracefully. He was tarnishing his own legend. (NB: Think Joe Paterno, or any number of players who hang on after they're no longer competitive.) So firing Landry was something that had to happen and there may have been no way of doing that gracefully.
But I will be a Cowboys fan 'til the day I die, no matter who the owner, coach or players are. I enjoy the winning years, especially since they are seasoned by the losing years (hopefully we'll put away the salt shaker for a bit this year). To quote sanmi77, "mabe" it's just 'parity' at work, but Cowboys fans enjoyed a lot of 'sodium-free' years under Tom Landry, much spicier campaigns since; that's his legacy, not the multiple losing seasons and the team loaded with sub-par talent when he left.
Being a Cowboys fan is like being an American: We take a lot of sh*t for it, everyone despises us at some level (if not with open hostility), and we fans could not be prouder of our tradition, even if it's got some holes and stains. I know Shramm didn't have that metaphor in mind when he coined "America's Team", but it fits.
Go ahead and hate me, y'all. I'm still,
Respectfully Yours,
zoid
P.S.
Thanks, 'Lish, for 'opening a lane' and allowing me to get that off my chest. A girl who knows her football: Could you possibly get more attractive? I don't think so.
P.P.S.
Everybody else: Love your team, even if they suck and/or have Randy Moss on the squad. Jumping to the hot or popular team every year shows lack of character. (NB: Unless your team is the Arizona Cardinals, in which case, do whatever it takes to make it through yet another torturous season. You have my sympathies.)
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity
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Alas, STEVEthePIRATE is right. The phrase "you people" does keep getting used by Nu- I mean Sanmi77. It is he who keeps posting non- Firefly threads here. He obviously doesn't want to be part of this group. Zoid, Static and others were very nice to him in this new incarnation. Heck, even I tried to be nice on my last post to him.
Sanmi77, I think it's time to go. Come back later as someone else when you want to join, not badger, a group of fans.
There, I didn't even make a dictionary joke.
See ya Chrisisall
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Originally posted by zoid:
(NB: Unless your team is the Arizona Cardinals, in which case, do whatever it takes to make it through yet another torturous seaason. You have my sympathies.)
Oh sure, rub it in.
At least we're getting a new stadium. Sun Devil stadium is a terrible place to watch a game. Outdoors. In the Summer.
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sanmi77:
Hey, babe. Looks like you've been using the dictionary, thesaurus and possibly the translator links I posted for you on a different thread. Good on ya'!
I only caught one little misspell/misuse in your post: It should be "leave this whole thing in the past" as opposed to "leave this hole thing in the past", which is embarassingly an entirely different subject...
Still, you are showing some improvement in mechanics. Now, we just need to work on your etiquette and attitude.
As stated above, it's neither proper nor polite to start a thread about yourself or any other FFFn poster. You should never seek pity because other posters disagree with you or ignore you. It happens to everyone (some more than others): Do like we do and get over it.
Try to add something to a conversation (spelled as correctly as possible, not because we are picky, but so we can understand you). Do not make every conversation about yourself. The rule is: "One Mal-Licious per site", and we've already got a perfectly good one, thanks anyway.
It is proper to quietly take your well-earned 'medicine' when people ignore or insult you for trying to start/hijack a thread for pity. Alternatively, you can choose to ignore/insult yourself, and post another response, without the pity-pleading, and get the thread back on topic. This works very effectively. Usually, people who ignored your attempt at sympathy-gathering, will respond to your next on-topic post quite readily, because all the personal info you've been gushing is just too damned icky to bear.
So, this is the lesson for today: If you truly want to be a member of this community, not just a lurker reading fanfics, remember it's not all about you (it's all about Mal-Licious *who said that?*). Post things about Firefly and Serenity, or even about other shows/movies/books, but they must relate to Firefly in some way. This is not a website about SNL, and I can see no relationship between Firefly and Saturday Night Live. Don't say things to other people without considering how it would make you feel, if they had said those things to you.
To recap:
1. There should never be a thread about you, unless your name is Mal-Licious. (*alright, who said that!? this is getting scary*)
2. Stay on topic, or at least try to tie your off-topic post into Firefly, in some way.
3. When it comes to the tone of your posts, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." A great Man said that, and I believe it. Do you?
Further lessons will follow, if necessary. But I think that'll get you heading in the right direction. After a week or two of non-self-centered posts -- spelled so people can understand them -- composed of Firefly-related content, you should start getting some tolerance, if not respect from the other regulars.
It's going to be a slow and possibly painful process, though. Some will undoubtedly flame you based on your past posts. But if you stick it out and take your lumps, they'll eventually forget all this nonsense and make you feel like part of the community.
Remember, it's nobody's fault but your own. You must either make amends, quit in failure, or keep getting your backside tarred every time you post.
Respectfully,
zoid
P.S.
sanmi77: A second request: AGE and GENDER, please. Nationality would be good, too, especially if you are a non-native English speaker. Help us understand you, by giving us some basic hints.
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity
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Beatle wrote:
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...At least we're getting a new stadium...
Yeah, I had noticed a headline for a story on the Cowboys website that the Joneses had visited Bidwell for the stadium launch. I didn't read the story, mind you, because the 'business end' doesn't interest me.
Where's it going to be? Phoenix? Tucson? Arizona has had a championship franchise in baseball (something Texas has never had) and a highly successful one in basketball. There's no reason except one why y'all can't have a successful football franchise someday, too. (Think: A lone gunman or three, a high-powered rifle and Bill Bidwell.)
The Cowboys and Cardinals continue to have a good business relationship, even though the competitive aspect has been pretty one-sided since the mid-70's (Jim Hart at QB, team still in St. Louis)...
Fanatically,
zoid
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity
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*Runs over to Zoid and squeezes him around the waist*
You give the best constructive crit ever!
*Prances off to another thread in which she can actually contribute*
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Thank you most kindly, 'baby.
*zoid glows from affection unexpectedly lavished on him by Starrbaby*
I always give people the benefit of the doubt. I believe in them, even if they don't believe in themselves. I'm a hopeless romantic that way. And I'm an unstinting believer in the power and hope of Redemption.
I'm a lover, not a hater. That's my secret; don't tell anyone...
Yours Truly,
-zed
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