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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:

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Originally posted by Tallgrrl:
Oh! There's also "good" and "well".
Ay caramba!!
Doesn't everyone know the difference?
One feels well.
One does good.

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That's not entirely correct. For example: I did well on my exam. Good vs Well all depends on the useage of the word; I could "do good" when "good" is used as a noun.

I hates grammar anyhow.

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Yep, you're right, but I was using the "does good" as in "one does good" as in good works.
"Girl Scouts do good."
Know what I mean?


Take me, sir. Take me hard. -- Zoe

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Caite, you have created one long and surprisingly interesting thread!

My pet peeve is on American TV, they always say:
'eat healthy food'
but if that chicken was healthy it would run away from you.

they should say 'eat healthful food'
(ie food that is good for you)
but the television advertisers are trying to destroy the brains of all Americans!

(which isn't surprising, since the food is unhealthful anyway)

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I am glad that you have found the thread to be so interesting embers!

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Originally posted by CALLMEATH:
Hey, grammer geniuses (no, I'm not being sarcastic; I bow to your greater knowledge), how does one pluralize "one"? Is it ones or one's? I did one's, but now I'm not sure if it was right. This thread has got me looking over my shoulder, so to speak.

"Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants. The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!"

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It's "ones". One's implies that one owns something.

ETA. Okay, this is more a problem with the English/American language barrier. But I *hate* it that the versions of Microsoft Word I use at school keep telling me words like "Colour" and "Realise" are inncorrect spellings. They aren't.

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This thread is like a breath of fresh air to me! At one time or another, I've been irritated by almost everything listed here. I find that I can tolerate (or not tolerate, as the case may be) different things depending on whether they are spoken or written. I can also make some allowances for the venue in which the communication occurs.

For example... lack of punctuation or capitalization in an IM chat is acceptable to me because of the time savings that it allows in a real-time communication via an awkward medium. But, people who post on a thread or send email without punctuation or capitalization drive me batty. Usually I can figure out what they mean. Sometimes it is difficult. Always it is annoying.

As for verbal communication, one peeve I've not seen mentioned here is the absurdity of people who SPEAK the abbreviation "i.e." For crying out loud, it's an abbreviation for a latin phrase! It serves a purpose in writing as a shorthand for "that is." But in the spoken language it saves no syllables. Even worse, most of the time I've heard it spoken, the speaker actually meant "e.g."! I assume that people speak it in the mistaken belief that it makes them sound more intellectual.

More verbal pet peeves: nucular (nuclear), perphial (peripheral)

Final thoughts... grammar, punctuation, and spelling are truly necessary only insofar as they promote clear communication. I understand the somewhat common opinion that much of it can be dispensed with. But it isn't all that infrequent that punctuation, spelling and grammar DOES provide clarity... and the use of such things allows people to communicate with more class and style. They add texture and nuance to writing that lower case IM monotone simply lacks.

Damn! This felt good. Thanks!

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Montana Girl:

Lie and lay are tricky. You lie down to go to sleep. Lay is used when talking (or writing) about an object other than yourself such as,.
"Go lay this book on the table." However, you can use lay when referring to yourself as in "Now I lay me down to sleep." Lay is also the past tense of lie, so you say "Today I lay down for a nap."

Clear as mud?

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