Things people say about Firefly.....
POSTED BY: TheSomnambulist
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 16:56
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I actually have run into many problems converting people. Most of the time if I knew someone was coming over, I'd put on Out of Gas or Ariel to try and draw them in. Most people couldn't take their eyes off it, and would ask a couple questions, but didn't seem interested in actually watching it.
One of my friends got nasty when I tried to get him to watch it. First he said he would in the summer...then when I reminded him he responded "Leave me alone, I just don't like it" (he's never seen it, he just has to be the first to find something then he'll shove it down your throat).
And finally, my more positive cases...one guy said "The only thing good about that show were the lesbians", after he moved in I MADE him watch it and he loves it and quotes Firefly.
Another, who DJs at a nightclub (I"m trying to get them to do a promo party for Serenity) I gave my DVD's to (He's had them since January 
just now started watching them and he loves it.
I find its mostly those who don't give it a chance. It's so frustrating...I mean really, what's with this free will crap, everyone should just love firefly!
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
...but I do like Paris.
Nobody's perfect.
After I take over the world I plan to move the Louvre to a more fitting location, Florence maybe.
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The one I hear is "it's a western, they've done 'em to death / I don't like westens"
And I tell 'em Wrong on both counts!!
I'ts NEVER been done like THIS, and it isn't JUST a western! Right now I have to absorb my friends enthusiasm for the last gorram SW flick comin' up, can't wait 'till I can "TOLD YOU SO"em to DEATH in Sept!
Anakin WHO? ha ha ha
who needs Paris, I been to Vegas!
(kidding)
Chrisisall
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My Mum and Aunt, both big fans of Buffy and Angel, said they didn't like Firefly because there wasn't enough action. Go figure.
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Originally posted by Zeek:
I understand the not liking something before you've seen it. If you don't I feel very sorry for you. You must have to try everything and experience many bad things just to make up your mind.
No, I don’t have to watch a thing to decide that I do not want to see it, but to actually know I do not like it is another thing entirely.
For example, it is entirely possible that I would like spending the next twenty years manning a weather station above the arctic circle. I have no desire to find out.
It is possible that had I watched it I would have liked the Blair Witch Project, I do not know and if I have my way I will never know.
These are things that I simply do not desire to try.
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On the other hand imagine if I said, “I don’t like Paris because of the curve of the Eiffel tower.”
Would that make sense? It is certainly as valid as saying, “I don’t like Firefly because of the spaceship,” or, “I don’t like The Simple Life because it is just two attention whores on camera.”
The shape of a national monument it an important thing to judge a city on.
(You can learn a hell of a lot about DC before you go there just by studying the monuments. The shape of the Washington monument is particularly telling and the architecture of the White House tells all you need to know about the historical psychology of the leaders.)
But if you decide not to go to Paris because of the architecture of their largest symbol you can not weigh such values as
the artwork
the aesthetic qualities of the other monuments and buildings
the general attitude of the people
the specific attitude of certain people you are forced to deal with more often
the history of the town
the historical instability of the town
the cleanliness of the river
the efficiency of the metro
the usual weather
and so on
Now perhaps you have judged in your head that the curve of the Eiffel tower makes it not worth the trip, but if you decide that you do not like the city as a result you’ve gone too far.
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You say that you don’t like The Simple Life, but you freely admit to not knowing, instead you say, “I’m not going to like it,” in future tense even though the show is already in the past.
The truth is that perhaps if you watched it you would like it. It could be that you would discover if you muted it and watched the camera work alone trying to find out how someone employed on that kind of show works when they know they have only one take.
Maybe the logistics of it would fascinate you.
You don’t know.
But more importantly to your point you don’t have to know to decide not to watch.
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My point, on the other hand, is that often times people say that they do not like Firefly, not that they would not like it, not that they think they will not like it, not that they have no desire to watch it, but that they do not like it.
I can not understand this. You can not possibly know that you do not like something if you have not experienced it. You can be forced to go to a movie you thought you’d hate, and indeed dislike the actors, the plot the setting, the sound, and still find something to like.
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I disagree. If someone dragged me to see Gigli I will not like it. I already know this. I've decided it already. I'm a very stubborn person and once I've decided not to like something, I'm going to stick to it. So if I said, "I don't like Gigli" it would be more or less the truth. Same with the Simple Life. I don't care what the camera work is like. I don't care what the music is like. I know I wouldn't like it if I watched it. I use the future tense just because that's the way I think of it. I could also see someone making the case that I could just as easily say "I don't like the Simple Life".
There are some people that probably feel the same about Firefly. The judge the book by it's cover and are stubborn enough to stick with their opinion. It's very easy to miss what Firefly is all about if you are spending the whole time trying to find a reason not to like it. I have a friend who says Firefly is about old west shootouts with ghosts and aliens. There really aren't any ghosts or aliens but because River said, "Ghost Ship" once and because she decided Reavers = Aliens that's just what she thinks Firefly is about. While she is wrong, it doesn't change the fact that her opinion has been influenced and set.
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Oh, Great Somno:
Back when the show was on F*x, I used to gush over it to all my friends. Here's the most common response I used to get: "Wow! That sounds great! I'm gonna catch that. When does it come on?"
Well, ummm, you see... Fridays. Usually. At 7 o'clock, unless there's something else on in that slot instead, then it's almost always on at 8... or 9 if it's a ballgame, maybe 9:30 if it goes to extra innings.
You know, somebody once tried to convince me that it was wrong to blame F*x for Firefly's cancellation. That guy was a moron.
Respectfully,
zoid
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Well Zeek you and I are obviously very different people, I do not understand you and I doubt very much I ever will. You refuse to have an open mind, as you say, and that I can not understand.
You made a choice to close your mind, and I respect that you have made that choice, and even more so because you admit to it.
I still fail to understand.
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I can not see how anyone can make a choice so vital to perception without any of the necessary information. Basing your opinion of a show based on anything other than watching it is the same action that lead to the conclusion, “The nose causes the tail.”
Still you obviously understand that, and have chosen to make it a part of yourself anyway. Because of that understanding it can not be a function of stupidity or ignorance.
I was wrong.
I respect, I do not understand.
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
"It's not futuristic enough"
"Why is Space silent - don't like that"
"What no lasers!?"
"They don't translate the Chinese"
Funny, some of my favourite things about Firefly!
When I've mentioned it to people I have had the "Western and Sci-fi? thats an odd mix don't think I'd like that" i.e. my mum, loves westerns doesn't even care enough about sci-fi to dislike it.
As for not liking things before seeing them, at least in my case, you create an impression of what something is going to be like based on descriptions, previews, previous biases and the opinion of people you trust (even searching out reviews and opinions before deciding to spend energy, time and emotion (and money)). I've decided whether or not to buy many a book based on what the back said, what a friend said even ocasionally on my impression of the cover!
If I test my theory/impression of whether I'll like something occasionally I'm surprised, and sometimes I'm not. I tend to go with my instincts. So if people decide Firefly's not their thing without seeing it, I guess I can understand that but if it were me I'd try as I'm always aware that first impressions can be wrong (and an hour long tv show is easier to try and then stop than a book or a trip to Paris ;) ).
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