Voiceover or not? and IS Deckard a replicant?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, April 6, 2005 8:31 PM

Does Blade Runner work better with the voiceover?
I like it but I think it works better without. Like I was tellin' Starrbaby I do like the shots of them driving at the end of the voiced-over version, though.
Is Deckard a replicant? Absolutly not. What sense would it make to "manufacture" a replicant to be a replicant hunter and not even endow him with the same basic strength as a pleasure unit?!

Okay, is there another opinion?

Chrisisall

YT

Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:03 PM

In my opinion, this message is in the wrong forum

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:22 PM

Yeah, okay- but this is transplanted from "Ask Ndugu", I didn't stop to think it might belong in another forum.
Besides, Blade Runner and Firefly have much in common; they're both great.

Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:22 PM

Allright, no one's posting. Hmm. I'm gonna get schitzophrenic for a minute.

But Chrisisall, that was their genius, Deckard would never figure out he was a replicant if he was as physically as able as just a human, they counted on his mental capacity to air out the skinjobs!

EMBERS

Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Yeah, okay- but this is transplanted from "Ask Ndugu", I didn't stop to think it might belong in another forum.
Besides, Blade Runner and Firefly have much in common; they're both great.

Chrisisall

Actually it was just a matter of time before Joss went for a nice film-noir,
Voice-over, Blade Runner type episode of Firefly (but we never got to see because they cancelled our show!).

Personally I felt that the voice over was a way to under score the vintage detective movie aspect of the show, with the rough PI (so no, why would you have a replicant with a 6 o'clock shadow, or more like a three day beard?). It's a genre thing.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:47 PM

Ha! Not true, Chrisisall! Batty's intelect was superior to Deckard's. So again, besides not being as strong, he's not as smart! He lost! Batty had to let him live. Who would design something to NOT work? Your argument is so weak.

Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:54 PM

Wow, you posted just as I was being beside myself on this thread.

Actually I feel Firefly was very film-noir like, always deep shadows about, the darkness of space and such. Episodes like Trash and Out of Gas seeming like mysteries in a way...

Chrisisall

STARRBABY

Wednesday, April 6, 2005 9:57 PM

I'm just going to restate what I said on the other thread.
I prefer a lack of VO.

I can undersatnd and respect why people would prefer a VO, mainly becasue it claifies many points, and it gives it a "Harlem Nocturne" feel. (If you don't get that wierd comparison, I'll be glad to explain. However, I don't want to get into it if everyone gets it. I know I hate it when I have to read explanations to something I already know.)

Anyway, I'm a huge fan of drawing my own conclutions about theatre and movies and stuff. Most of the time, I'm wrong, but I still like to do it.

Oh, and don't beat me up due to my horrid spelling. I was rushed, and decided not to run it through spellcheck.

ZOID

Thursday, April 7, 2005 2:35 AM

chrisisall:

"Blade Runner" is better without the voice-over, and Deckard is definitely a replicant.

There is no reasoning required. Ridley Scott, the film's creator, did not intend for there to be a voice-over. It had nothing to do with a film noir, or '40's detective feel. The studio added it because they felt the audience was too stupid to follow the plot on their own. Ridley was so outraged about the studio's rape of his film, he almost had them take his name off it. The Director's Cut has no voice-over, I was able to comprehend it just fine, and it is the clearly superior version.

And Deckard is a replicant because R. Scott admitted he was.

Researchfully,

zoid
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"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain." -Roy Batty, Blade Runner

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 7, 2005 9:10 PM

Jus' a second there, Zoid. I once made a short post apocalyptic film in which you're led to believe a guy is all alone and searching for another person, anyone at all alive. Near the end of the film, seemingly too sad to go on he steps off a tall building. We see his body at street level partially in the pavement, face down. His hand jerks to life, and he gets up, then sees his reflection in a car window ( the first clear look at his face in the film) and he is a robot. As he's narrating the film he now says that he's looking for someone who knows how to shut down a 'Sentry Model 3'. the end (I grew up on Twilight Zone, what can I tell ya)
My point is, now I can say something like: "I never liked that ending, he's really not a robot, he just went crazy from being alone." But that wasn't the intention at the time the film was made. Sure, I made the film, I can say what I want to, I could re-shoot stuff if I want to, but that still doesn't change what I did way back when I shot it.
And if you study Blade Runner, other than Rachael asking if he ever took that test himself or some inconclusive reflection in Deckard's eyes at his apartment, there's nothing to lead me to believe that Scott had ever intended Deckard to be a replicant. Whatever he says now about that, well, maybe it's what he wanted to do then, but didn't or couldn't.

Did I make a case?

The Perry Mason-like Chrisisall

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