British Election Fever - How will you vote?
POSTED BY: Zoot
UPDATED: Sunday, April 17, 2005 22:46
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So, so far we have a massive Lib Dem majority - 2 for Lib Dem and one non-voter . . . . So in a Firefly England (ah - imagine the bliss!) we would have no Mr Blair post 5 May!! Hurrah!!
Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
armed.
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Originally posted by Zoot:
So, so far we have a massive Lib Dem majority - 2 for Lib Dem and one non-voter . . . . So in a Firefly England (ah - imagine the bliss!) we would have no Mr Blair post 5 May!! Hurrah!!
Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
armed.
What a wonderous thought....
Oscar Wilde once said "Every state has the government it deserves"(words to that effect) - I fear he was right.
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So ZOOT you're in the home counties too eh? I'm down here in Kent. 15mins from the Euro tunnel, should I need a quick escape :)
- Weird how politics takes hold isn't it? I vehemently refused politics in my younger years, but now I stay up and watch Question Time on BBC1 ~ just so I can watch politicians squirm under tricky questioning!
It's like a sport for me now 
Laters
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I know England is a small country but two Browncoats in Kent on the same thread is down right creepy.
I'm in Thanet in a Labour held constituency and we have just had a realy sickly-sweet DVD posted through our door pretending to be from a concerned neighbour but actually containing a film telling us how wonderfull life is since Dr. Ladyman (the local M.P.) took the seat, and oh by the way...vote labour.
I spent a lot of time active in the Labour party in the mid to late eighties when Ramsey McKinnock was in charge and the whole atmosphere of with-hunts and sell-outs left a very cinical and nasty taste in my mouth. Which, I suppose, is why I appear to be fence sitting now. I would love to stay true to my Labour principles but the Labour party I knew does'nt exist anymore. I could never bring myself to vote Tory and the Li-Dems are not a strong enough force to make a viable challenge. If only Dennis Skinner was leader, then we would see some action.
As for being a non-voter, I would't say I was a commited one. I would vote for the Socailist party if they were standing a candidate but otherwise i think i shall have to follow my conscience on the day.
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He heeeehheeeee!! Gotta laugh when you're MP is called Ladyman - or is that just me??
I'd vote socialist too if there was such a thing - no point in voting Labour if you want to stay true to your socialist principles . . . but it does annoy me this "there's no point voting Lib Dem cos they'll never get a majority" - If everyone who says that just voted for them instead they'd get quite a reasonable percentage, I reckon . . . Every party, liberal, tory, labour has a low point at some time or other and they always seem to come back eventually . . .
Somnambulist - am v jealous of your nearness to a means of escape . . . I've seriosuly been thinking about emigrating and honestly, if we get identity cards, I'm either going to prison or going abroad . . . .
I can't speak any languages except ancient Greek (oh how useful) so that narrows it down to the colonies. Though about New Zealand, but its so far away from family adn all they seem to do is strenuous out door activity - eurgh! Far too healthy!! Plus I went to Australia for a wedding recently and its like the Stepford continent! Everyone conforms - its scary!
So its looking increasingly like Canada . . . but so near the US - erk!! Still, would get to see films first, I guess . . .
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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
I know England is a small country but two Browncoats in Kent on the same thread is down right creepy.
I'm in Thanet in a Labour held constituency
Well what d'you know - it's a small 'verse after all :)
Thanet eh? How's things on the coast there?
Oh labour of old eh? Poor John Smith was looking like a reasonably principled leader until his death - Blair came in on the work Smith did... Real pity.
The main reason I conitnue to vote now is because I don't want what happened in France with 'Penne' getting in due to low turn-out....
But it is disheartening isn't it. Some of these guys I swear went to Smarm school! I thought michael howard was the biggest smarm of all and then this ledwood character comes along. Yikes!!! That guy freaks me out - then there's that redwood fellow. Crickey where do they fabricate these wacko's from....
As for Labour -well I think Mrs Thatch is probably sleeping quite comfortably thanks to them.
Watt Tyler anyone? Time for a modern day peasants Revolt!!!



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Somnambulist - am v jealous of your nearness to a means of escape . . . I've seriosuly been thinking about emigrating and honestly, if we get identity cards, I'm either going to prison or going abroad . . . .
I can't speak any languages except ancient Greek (oh how useful) so that narrows it down to the colonies. Though about New Zealand, but its so far away from family adn all they seem to do is strenuous out door activity - eurgh! Far too healthy!! Plus I went to Australia for a wedding recently and its like the Stepford continent! Everyone conforms - its scary!
So its looking increasingly like Canada . . . but so near the US - erk!! Still, would get to see films first, I guess . . .
Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
armed.
I.D. cards. I'd forgotten about those!! They're going to happen y'know... It's just a question of time.As for emmigrating I know what you mean. A few years ago I was going to go to Grenada (Still sort of a colony) to live, but a few complications resulted and I couldn't do it.... Now I'm thinking maybe Spain. But long term I do hope to get to Grenada. I did consider Canada too I must admit, but I think I'd like the sunnier way of life now. I've done just about all the dark winter nights I can take for one lifetime without going nuts!!!.
So ancient Greek eh? That's cool. Ok so it's not like you get to chit-chat with ancients down the pub, but It's kinda groovy. I used to speak Spanish and something called Guarani, but not anymore... I only understand snippets these days :( shame.
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It's a strange view of the world that we get from Thanet. The local Rags even refer to it as "Planet Thanet" as in, "from another" I suppose.
If you read the national press you see a lot about Asylum seekers and protecting our borders but in Thanet something like £20 million a year comes into the local economy from foriegn students attending the English language shools. The towns are becoming more cosmopolitan and continental every year and people are starting to move here to live while commuting to work in France. So voting to kick out the foriegn devils is not really a good idea.
And ZOOT; the M.P.'s name is a corker isnt it? You just know that his nik-name at school had to be Ladyboy.
Actually there is such a thing as the Socialist Party, I'm kind of a sleeping member of it (in as much as i have'nt been to a meeting in ten years)so i'm a bit out of touch but they still send me a membership card every year. Jolly nice chaps those Socialists, very.. well.. social.
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Yup - I definitely reckon ancient languages are the way to go - I'm a classicist by training so I would say that - but I think its because I like languages - especially logical ones - but hate the embarrassment of being forced to speak in another language (inevitably badly) so I like ones which are written only and even if they are spoken (like Greek) no one really has the foggiest what they’d sound like!
I have a friend who makes it his business to learn a new dead language every year or so – so far he’s done, ancient Hebrew, Coptic, Sumarian and Etruscan (I think) . . . . All very admirable, but I think I’d start getting confused at some point – he’s a certified genius and I ain’t . . .
Sorry – this conversation has diverged somewhat from politics!!
Identity cards scare the living breath outta me!! Gotta say – is the age old quote I heard somewhere about no one in Holland in 1940 being bothered when identity cards were introduced – then, of course, the Jews started being identified by them . . the rest is, as they say, history . . . Sounds like I’m a hysteric, I know, but heard Mr Blunkett on Money Box (Radio 4) say today that elections and changing governments is bad for the economy – only a short step I reckon to “hey, guys, lets dispense with elections, you know it makes sense – and it’ll boost the economy if the government’s more stable” . . .
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ZOOT...Wow that is ominous.... I wonder what it is about politics that brings out the worst in people - can it really be as basic as a lust for power?
As much a I am fearful about British politics I don't think we're yet at a state of a government removing elections altogether but I agree, his attitude does scare somewhat... Especially given their track record of control and attempted control of the masses.
Hmmm
As for your training in the classics - I think it's great! I studied Latin very briefly at Junior school, oh a long time ago now, but even so I'm frequently amazed - on a daily basis - how often I come across residual latin in our language !
More often than not it plays well into my hands when playing a quiz, like trivial pursuits or balderdash.
oldenglandry Though I live in Kent I've only been to Thanet once ~ with art college to go around drawing around the town. I like the fact it is becoming cosmopolitan. Of course its easy for me to say that from here, but have you been affected by that much yourself ?
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