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Iran names price to reopen Strait of Hormuz

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Tuesday, August 11, 2026 3:52 AM

Trump’s Iran Exit Plan in Trouble? Tehran’s 6 New Demands Put Hormuz at Center Stage

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Tuesday, August 11, 2026 5:30 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Drama queen.

Sheesh!




*Nyah!*

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Tuesday, August 11, 2026 5:48 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Drama queen.

Sheesh!




*Nyah!*

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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.

None of Trump's Core Objectives in Iran have been reached, and he doesn't have enough force to get any of them. Perhaps if he had planned a few months ahead before attacking, instead of just making it up as he goes along, but that's really not Trump's style.

• Missile Capabilities: Destroying Iran's ballistic missile arsenal and halting its capacity to manufacture new offensive weapons.

• Naval Annihilation: Sinking and neutralizing Iranian naval assets and security infrastructure.

• Nuclear Prevention: Ensuring Iran never obtains or comes close to developing a nuclear weapon.

• Proxy Support: Cutting off the Iranian regime's ability to arm, fund, and direct proxy and militia groups outside its borders.

• Regime Change: Initially urging Iranian citizens to take over the government, though administration emphasis on this goal shifted over time.

• Reopening the Strait of Hormuz, but without Iran collecting fees for each ship.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 11, 2026 6:43 AM

Now you're just stealing Google AI results where there isn't any quotes and not bothering to tell people that you're posting Google AI chat results.



You're a real funny dude, Shit Golem.

A fucking joke.


I don't care how much you dial yourself in. We will always know you're a dumbass with a just a slightly less remedial grasp on writing than your dog Ted over there in the corner.

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Tuesday, August 11, 2026 10:32 AM

The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that Trump had been laying the groundwork to declare victory if Iran fully reopened the Strait of Hormuz, even privately floating that he might walk away without a nuclear deal. Tehran’s response was to raise its price. Iran demanded billions of dollars in U.S. payments, removal of American troops from the region, an end to the U.S. naval blockade, and other concessions.

That is exactly what one would expect if Iran believes it has learned how badly Trump wants the game to end.

Last month, I argued in these pages that Iran was treating the confrontation over Hormuz as a repeated game: probe Washington, observe the response, adjust, and probe again. Every threat, pause, strike, concession, and deadline teaches the other side something. Tehran has not been trying to discover whether the United States is militarily stronger. That was never in doubt. It has been trying to discover how much pain Washington will tolerate before looking for an exit.

Bargaining theory is one branch of game theory: It asks what happens when players with different costs, alternatives, and deadlines negotiate over a settlement. Military strength and bargaining leverage are not always the same. Sometimes the player who can wait longer has the better hand.

The Washington Examiner reported in June that a veteran of Trump’s presidential campaigns described the problem with unusual clarity: “Iran knows [Trump is] on the clock, and he knows that they know,” referring to the political pressure to end the war before the midterm elections.

That clock has not disappeared. Iran does not have a November election. Tehran does not have to defeat the U.S. It has to convince Washington that another month of disrupted shipping, economic pressure, and inconclusive fighting costs Trump more than another month of pressure costs Iran.

Once Tehran believes that, American urgency becomes Iranian leverage.

The trap then feeds on itself. The more Trump signals that reopening Hormuz would allow him to declare victory, the more valuable reopening Hormuz becomes to Tehran. The more clearly Washington advertises its need for an off-ramp, the more Iran can charge for providing one.

In a repeated game, backing away from an announced consequence does more than lose one round. It teaches the opponent where the real boundary lies. A threat that is issued, tested, softened, and replaced with another threat is not deterrence.

It is information.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 11, 2026 11:12 AM

Prompted by an Iranian assassination threat, Donald Trump departed on a secret military flight from Turkey last month when the White House said he was flying aboard Air Force One, in an extraordinary ruse that involved hiding the president in an airport catering cart. He boarded Air Force One in view of television cameras, and then was secretly shuttled minutes later to a smaller plane via an airport catering truck typically used to load meals.

A credible threat to Trump involving Iran set the “deception operation” in motion.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/10/trump-secret-flight-na
to-return


The Iranians certainly got into Trump's head.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 11, 2026 12:19 PM

Oh goodie. A story that can't possibly be verified.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

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Tuesday, August 11, 2026 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by second:
The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that Trump had been laying the groundwork to declare victory if Iran fully reopened the Strait of Hormuz, even privately floating that he might walk away without a nuclear deal. Tehran’s response was to raise its price. Iran demanded billions of dollars in U.S. payments, removal of American troops from the region, an end to the U.S. naval blockade, and other concessions.

That is exactly what one would expect if Iran believes it has learned how badly Trump wants the game to end.

Last month, I argued in these pages that Iran was treating the confrontation over Hormuz as a repeated game: probe Washington, observe the response, adjust, and probe again. Every threat, pause, strike, concession, and deadline teaches the other side something. Tehran has not been trying to discover whether the United States is militarily stronger. That was never in doubt. It has been trying to discover how much pain Washington will tolerate before looking for an exit.

Bargaining theory is one branch of game theory: It asks what happens when players with different costs, alternatives, and deadlines negotiate over a settlement. Military strength and bargaining leverage are not always the same. Sometimes the player who can wait longer has the better hand.

The Washington Examiner reported in June that a veteran of Trump’s presidential campaigns described the problem with unusual clarity: “Iran knows [Trump is] on the clock, and he knows that they know,” referring to the political pressure to end the war before the midterm elections.

That clock has not disappeared. Iran does not have a November election. Tehran does not have to defeat the U.S. It has to convince Washington that another month of disrupted shipping, economic pressure, and inconclusive fighting costs Trump more than another month of pressure costs Iran.

Once Tehran believes that, American urgency becomes Iranian leverage.

The trap then feeds on itself. The more Trump signals that reopening Hormuz would allow him to declare victory, the more valuable reopening Hormuz becomes to Tehran. The more clearly Washington advertises its need for an off-ramp, the more Iran can charge for providing one.

In a repeated game, backing away from an announced consequence does more than lose one round. It teaches the opponent where the real boundary lies. A threat that is issued, tested, softened, and replaced with another threat is not deterrence.

It is information.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two






Found the plagiarism, word for word: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op-eds/4680598/iran-cracked-trump-t
ell-hormuz
/

Archived to avoid paywall: https://archive.ph/TQF8S





Loser.

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Tuesday, August 11, 2026 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Loser.

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You know how Trump could win the negotiations with Iran? He could threaten to kill himself. The Iranians would have to surrender, or else they would be responsible for the early death of the greatest President in history.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, August 11, 2026 7:20 PM

Iran's Endgame: The Economic War That Was Never About Winning Militarily

August 10, 2026

https://hormuzstraitmonitor.com/blog/irans-endgame-economic-war-hormuz/

CNN published an analysis this morning that contains the most clarifying sentence written about this conflict in 163 days: "Somehow he's maneuvered himself into a more vulnerable spot regarding Iran than any president since Jimmy Carter."

The Carter comparison is precise. In 1979-80, Iran exerted leverage over a US election by holding 52 American hostages in Tehran for 444 days. Forty-six years later, it is not people being held hostage — it is the Strait of Hormuz. The mechanism is different. The strategic logic is identical: apply sustained pressure on an American president ahead of a national election, and wait for the political cost to exceed the political will.

Understanding this is the key to understanding everything that has happened since February 28 — every ceasefire that collapsed, every false dawn, every "perimeters of a deal have been agreed" announcement that came to nothing. Iran has not been negotiating in bad faith. It has been negotiating on a different timeline. The war it is fighting was never primarily military. It is economic. And it is, by most measures, working.

The Strategy That Reuters Revealed

On August 3, Reuters published a report based on sources with direct insight into Iranian decision-making that is the clearest articulation of Tehran's strategy yet published. The core conclusion: Iran has concluded it cannot defeat the United States militarily, and has instead adopted a strategy of prolonged economic pressure designed to force Trump to make concessions before November's midterm elections.

The strategy has four elements. First, maintain maritime disruption and keep oil prices elevated. Second, expand pressure to multiple locations simultaneously — Red Sea, Suez approaches, Gulf state infrastructure — to raise the cost of the conflict beyond what US military action can contain. Third, wait for the economic damage to accumulate domestically in the United States: gas prices, inflation, bond market pressure, consumer sentiment. Fourth, bet that Trump's political exposure ahead of the midterms will eventually force him to offer more than he currently wants to.

"The Iranians believe that by widening the war and increasing the pressure, he will eventually give in," a Gulf source told Reuters.

This is not a new assessment. It has been visible in Iran's behaviour since at least April. But it is only now, as gas prices in the United States cross $4 a gallon for the first time since the crisis began and the midterm election is within striking distance on the calendar, that the strategy's logic has become undeniable.

The Numbers That Make the Strategy Work

The Al Jazeera analysis published this week contains data that makes Iran's position comprehensible in purely strategic terms.

In the seven days ending August 2, an average of only about four ships per day passed through the Strait of Hormuz, compared with approximately 90 during the corresponding week of 2025. Estimated transit volume fell from 3.5 million to approximately 143,000 metric tonnes per day — a decline of approximately 96 percent. This was not a temporary collapse in traffic. It is a sustained disruption entering its sixth month.

The economic consequences of that disruption are now measurable across multiple dimensions. US average gas prices crossed $4 a gallon this week — a 34 percent increase from pre-war levels. The Federal Reserve faces a stagflation scenario: energy-driven inflation on one side, slowing growth on the other, with its standard tools making each problem worse when deployed against the other. Bond markets have priced in a prolonged stalemate. US consumer confidence is falling.

Meanwhile, Iran's own economic pain, while significant, has not reached the breaking point its adversaries expected. Oil export revenue is constrained, but Chinese crude purchas

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