Veronica Mars in danger of cancellation

POSTED BY: thecrazykind
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 5, 2005 19:58
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RUXTON

Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:53 PM

Hey WYK!!
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Man! You've put some serious time and love into that website. What an outstanding job! I sincerely recommend anyone who has, or contemplates, a website to visit "marsinvestigations.net" to see how it ought to be done.

Your efforts make everything clear, and those of us who have loved Veronica Mars from the start can also benefit from a visit to your site. It explains a LOT.

Congratulations!

And go visit http://www.saveveronicamars.com/

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Here are some whupass numbers of interest for Veronica's fans:
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Results of E! Online's Fifth Annual "Save One Show" Poll:

Total number of votes: 686,323

15. The Wire (HBO): Less than 1%
14. Kevin Hill (UPN): Less than 1%
13. Medical Investigation (NBC): Less than 1%
12. The West Wing (NBC): Less than 1%
11. Jack & Bobby (WB): 1%
10. North Shore (Fox): 1%
9. Joan of Arcadia (CBS): 2%
8. Point Pleasant (Fox): 2.5%
7. Enterprise (UPN): 3%
6. Tru Calling (Fox): 5%
5. Life as We Know It (ABC): 5.5%
4. Charmed (WB): 6%
3. American Dreams (NBC): 7%
2. Arrested Development (Fox): 9%
*** 1. Veronica Mars (UPN): 56% ****
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Come on, now, Sugar.
Bring it on, bring it on, yeah!

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If you care, mail a letter to Dawn Ostroff urging her to keep Veronica Mars around. The address: Dawn Ostroff, UPN President, 11800 Wilshire Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90025

WYK

Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:04 PM

Thanks for the kind words Ruxton, but I don't deserve all the credit. The website is the result of an insane, highly experimental, colloborative group effort by 12 posters from TWoP who had this crazy idea to create a website to help introduce new viewers to the show. We are amazed that a group of strangers spanning multiple time zones and 3 continents was actually able to create, design and launch the website in less than two weeks. It's just a sign of how we love the show and how much we want it to succeed.

You can read the more about how the site was created on our About the Site page.
http://marsinvestigations.net/aboutsite.php

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How good is Veronica Mars?

Veronica Mars won the recent Eonline Kristin save our show poll with 56% of the votes. Arrested Development came in second with 9% of the vote. Veronica Mars had approximately 320,000 more votes than the second place show.

When given a choice between voting for Veronica Mars or Marti Noxon's Point Pleasant in the above mentioned poll, members of whedonesque.com voted for Veronica Mars. http://whedonesque.com/?comments=6177

It is the highest scoring (based on recapper and user grades) show this season at Television without Pity. http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3120844&st
=45&p=2531877&#entry253187

It's the only show from the UPN/CBS conglomerate to land on Entertainment Weekly's list of top ten shows of 2004.

A writer in the March 13-19 edition of TV Guide called it the best show you're not watching.

I hope you guys give the show a chance.

AUROTER

Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:49 PM

Not to darken any spirits, but I think Firefly is a testimony that unfortinately, putting ads in papers and magazines, signing petitions etc. aren't enough to save a show. More viewers might, so watch the VM, but I don't think we can expect letter writing to work...

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you can't take the sky from me

WYK

Monday, March 21, 2005 12:51 PM

The one advantage Veronica Mars has, that Firefly and Wonderfalls never had, was the support of the network. Rob Thomas (creator of VM and Cupid) has talked about the tremendous amount of support, faith, and patience UPN has shown for this show. If VM aired on Fox, the TPTB would have forced Rob to make the show and the lead character less dark and would have canceled the show after a few months.

Imagine what Firefly could have been if Fox gave Joss as much freedom as UPN gives Rob.

Quote:
Rob Thomas:

I worry a great deal more about making her soft. I mean, I'm so on the other side of the fence on that -- I worry more about her becoming cute and lovable, bordering-on-popular Veronica Mars, and everybody loves her -- that will make me nervous.

I want to keep her edgy, and something that I like about the network is that they haven't made her a good girl.

["Ruskie Business"] is our best episode. It's a bit lighter, a bit smuttier -- it's the first time I've ever turned the script over and heard back from the network that they had no notes at all. In my entire career that's never happened.

Even though Firefly and Veronica Mars are set in two vastly different worlds, the first time I watched VM, it struck me that this is the kind of story Joss wanted to tell. Both shows examine how two bitter, jaded heroes try to cope with the harsh world in which they live.

Both Mal and Veronica are just normal people, without any super powers, who became bitter and jaded after a tramatic event. For Mal, the war was his turning point; for Veronica, the murder of her best friend, being abandoned by her mother, and being drugged and raped were her turning points. They know they can never return to the person they once were.

Neither of these characters are saints. They both do things that some might view as unethical. Mal is a thief who lives on the fringes of society; Veronica is a amateur teen detective who lies and schemes to strangers and those closest to her, in order to find the answers.

Yet underneath the bitterness and questionable ethics, there is still a real sense of hope, optimism, and decency. Instead of giving in and giving up, both of these characters pick themselves up, and make a new life for themselves. Life might have stepped on them and kicked them while they were down, but they refuse to break.

Plus the both shows have great snarky, laugh-out-loud dialogue.

Here's a sample of what critics have said about Veronica Mars.
http://marsinvestigations.net/critics.php

I hope more people give this show a chance.

RUXTON

Wednesday, March 23, 2005 1:24 AM

Hey!! It's coming on RIGHT NOW!

EVERYBODY GO WATCH VERONICA MARS!

Thanks.

ZEEK

Friday, March 25, 2005 5:26 PM

OK I've watched the first two episodes now. So far I'm convinced enough to keep watching.

I have problems with each episode so far though.

"You know what they say, 'Veronica Mars, she's a marshmellow'." - seriously wtf?

And the second episode containing Paris Hilton. There should be a big disclaimer on that. Tell me she's not in any of the rest of this series please.

Other than that the episodes seem to have decent plots. The dialogue seems to be forced witty a lot. Still not a bad show though.

RUXTON

Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:21 PM

Zeek,

Check out: " www.marsinvestigations.net"

Go now and start reading.

ZEEK

Monday, March 28, 2005 5:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ruxton:
Zeek,

Check out: " www.marsinvestigations.net"

Go now and start reading.

No way. I'm very anti-spoiler. Unless that site reveals nothing past the second episode of the series, me no clicky. Thanks anyway.

BATMARLOWE

Monday, March 28, 2005 6:40 PM

Zeek, I can promise you no more Paris Hilton.

RUXTON

Monday, March 28, 2005 7:44 PM

Zeek, it gives the ideas of the episodes, but no spoilers. Your're not told anything you don't want to know. But it's time to get caught up because the last seven eps of season 1 start tomorrow, and WILL reveal a lot of stuff you will need to know about.

So go already. That's one of the best websites I've seen.

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