Great Songs That Couldn't Be Made Today
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Saturday, July 18, 2026 14:03
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This song always hit hard for me from the first time I'd heard it...
I don't consider this to be a song that couldn't be made today, but I believe in the 3rd verse Anna was singing about what The Internet would do to Lisa Loeb for releasing that song today when she sings the words "2AM and I'm still awake writing a song, if I get it all down on paper it's no longer inside of me, threatening the life it belongs to. And I feel like I'm naked in front of a crowd, because these words are my diary screaming out loud, and I know that you'll use them, however you want to.
Anna may have been the first artist to sing about it, possibly not even realizing that if she were to have been born just several years earlier she would have a much different memory of what life as a teenager and young adult was before the internet became central to everyone's lives.
Even if it wasn't the Feminists relentlessly bashing the song and Lisa herself for being weak and staying in a relationship that clearly has problems and the whole thing being a bad role model for girls, she'd probably have a bunch of people making fun of her on Twitter for it. For staying in what appears to be a pretty solid relationship that didn't magically fix all of her problems that she's very aware of and struggling with. And it should be noted that she didn't let him entirely off the hook either. It's a one-sided story and we don't know if we have a reliable narrator, but with the amount of self-depreciation on display here, I think it's more than fair to accept that her beau was not Mr. Perfect himself.
I think this song would be attacked for weakness today. That she didn't just stand up and walk out on that guy. But that would be completely missing the point. I think it's a song about strength. Weathering the bad times and navigating through all the emotions while keeping focused on the fact that ultimately the relationship brings you more than it takes away from you... or, at very least, achieves equilibrium.
It's easy to quit and walk away. It's hard to put in the work to keep something worth keeping. But what nobody tells you is that it's even harder being alone and looking back and wondering what things would have been like had you made a different choice. If you fought for something worth fighting for instead of always taking the easy way out. That you might just wake up one day realizing that not only isn't there anything left worth fighting for, but that the days where those opportunities just seemed to fall into your lap don't come around all too often anymore either.
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Be Nice. Don't be a dick.
You, SIX are a rotten kid. I like both these songs. They speak to me in someway that have both almost had me in tears.
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You, SIX are a rotten kid. I like both these songs. They speak to me in someway that have both almost had me in tears.
:( I'm sorry Brenda.
Did you know of 2AM before? I know it got good airplay back in the late 2000's. I actually had Anna's album. There were quite a few good songs on it that never got any play.
I love both of the songs because they're REAL. These girls wrote them, and they weren't just written by the same people that write 90% of the music you ever hear.
I'm sure I got you thinking about Blair again. It sounds like you two had a great go of it, and what happened wasn't your fault. I don't think that he'd be happy if he knew you were sad when thinking about him.
I'm envious of you, actually. I think there were a few girls I dated that were really amazing, but my heart was never really in it. I don't think I'm capable of the type of love necessary to have anything lasting. I've been loved, but I don't think I've ever actually felt love. At least not the kind of love that remains after the newness phase of a relationship ends and the relationship becomes increasingly less about the Grand Gestures and just becomes routine.
What's that phrase? It's better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all.
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Be Nice. Don't be a dick.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
You, SIX are a rotten kid. I like both these songs. They speak to me in someway that have both almost had me in tears.
:( I'm sorry Brenda.
Did you know of 2AM before? I know it got good airplay back in the late 2000's. I actually had Anna's album. There were quite a few good songs on it that never got any play.
I love both of the songs because they're REAL. These girls wrote them, and they weren't just written by the same people that write 90% of the music you ever hear.
I'm sure I got you thinking about Blair again. It sounds like you two had a great go of it, and what happened wasn't your fault. I don't think that he'd be happy if he knew you were sad when thinking about him.
I'm envious of you, actually. I think there were a few girls I dated that were really amazing, but my heart was never really in it. I don't think I'm capable of the type of love necessary to have anything lasting. I've been loved, but I don't think I've ever actually felt love. At least not the kind of love that remains after the newness phase of a relationship ends and the relationship becomes increasingly less about the Grand Gestures and just becomes routine.
What's that phrase? It's better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all.
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Be Nice. Don't be a dick.
It's okay SIX. Music can move to tears or near to tears.
I think I have heard it before but not sure where. Might have been on the radio in a car with one of Blair's friends that were driving me to do something for him.
They did get me thinking about him. I hope we did and I know what happened wasn't my fault. No, he wouldn't want me to ever be sad. But that is life and music.
Love is an odd emotion. I've had love that I thought would stay then didn't. Being wrapped in it was a wonderful feeling. I would like to find it again but not sure.
That is the phrase.
Don't worry about bringing me down. I can do that on my own at times.
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Blacks themselves did parody of their culture back in the day, outdated tropes, jokes, stereotypes so many songs back then you cant do today "Theres a N * gger in the Moon" they go viral with a guy putting on a tap dance show or move around as popular sheet music from the era designed for vaudeville and minstrel performances.
Not viral as we know today with the phones the internets, viral back then was buzz on the street and word of mouth about some new crazy jazz venue.
its all controlled now
Where were those songs of protest against the 'War in Iraq'?
I dont listen to pop but I do listen a lot and I have mixed stuff DJ style and jammed with other skilled musicians. The vocal line is most probably the last part of the song I start concentrating on listening to, I will listen to the groove, the bass underneath, the high sparkle drum cymbal, the chord progression, the beats or melody line. You dont really get surprises, most melody Song structure most beats and chord progressions go the same way these days but you do have surprises once in a while...by the time I do listen to Lyrics I would say the intro is gone already I'm probably past the verse, past the pro chorus maybe Verse-chorus is already gone before I actively listen to 'words' I might be passively sub consciously am taking in words maybe not but I and many others miss hear words or maybe mistake one word as another. If I want words or lyrics I will read an actual poet or read a book.
There was a time when music was more family values, more 'prude' and conservative and national pride, the Beatles or The Blues or Rock and Roll or Elvis was seen as devlish or bad influence. The hippie movement during Nam were considered 'Commies' and traitors and drug addicts.
Over time all the record companies got taken over, the 'counter culture' got eaten by the machine. There was no real movement against Bush and the 'Iraq War' everything became fake.
New wrong think offenses pop up, everything had to be Gay and Lesbian, you had to accept all other religions all invading waves of immigration, MeToo gets hijacked by a political money movement, dont make jokes about the Tranny.
Be a degenerate think about booze, drugs, your penis and vagina, get off and get high, have a fight with the local rapper in your hood and most important dont protest the Iraq War.
Its not that there are not great words and lyrics out there, yes some people write great words Bob Dylan, Eminem, Tom Waits, Joni Mitchell, Paulina Villarreal, Van Morrison, Eddie Vedder, Freddy Mercury, Nick Cave, Tracy Chapman, Kris Kristofferson, Woody Guthrie, Prince, Michael Jackson, Smokey Robinson, Billy Joel, John Lydon, David Bowie even the thought provoking words inside the noise of punk and rap....some of them might have been assholes in real life but the put good 'words' on the records. Some lyrics stand out so much you cant help but hear them but I honestly wasnt really a lyric word person, I find most vocalist subjects kinda boring.
Other praised respected lyric writers I find dumb but I guess its 'Art' and everyone can be free to have their own personal tastes. For example I find Bernie Taupin / Elton John to be mostly crap but they do have one or two good vocal words in songs, I mostly just see them as fools...some I have changed my mind for example Dolly Parton Country was one I didnt like but then I heard Jolene and its incredible as if its from the heart they often rank it as one of the "Greatest Songs of All Time" its covered in foreign languages like Spanish and I believe Dolly admitted there is some truth and real life put into that song.
Elvis Costello is one I just dont like, I get people like his words but I dont like those 'words' I find his groove very boring and just 'shit' and even when he has drive in his songs I dont like his voice and think he sounds like an annoying jackass. I dont know what I dont like about in maybe its insincere like its fake trying to mim
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One song that problem couldn't get a redo of is Elvis's "In the Ghetto."
Not a hug fan of Elvis but this song still makes a lot of sense today.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
You, SIX are a rotten kid. I like both these songs. They speak to me in someway that have both almost had me in tears.
:( I'm sorry Brenda.
Did you know of 2AM before? I know it got good airplay back in the late 2000's. I actually had Anna's album. There were quite a few good songs on it that never got any play.
I love both of the songs because they're REAL. These girls wrote them, and they weren't just written by the same people that write 90% of the music you ever hear.
I'm sure I got you thinking about Blair again. It sounds like you two had a great go of it, and what happened wasn't your fault. I don't think that he'd be happy if he knew you were sad when thinking about him.
I'm envious of you, actually. I think there were a few girls I dated that were really amazing, but my heart was never really in it. I don't think I'm capable of the type of love necessary to have anything lasting. I've been loved, but I don't think I've ever actually felt love. At least not the kind of love that remains after the newness phase of a relationship ends and the relationship becomes increasingly less about the Grand Gestures and just becomes routine.
What's that phrase? It's better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all.
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Be Nice. Don't be a dick.
It's okay SIX. Music can move to tears or near to tears.
I think I have heard it before but not sure where. Might have been on the radio in a car with one of Blair's friends that were driving me to do something for him.
They did get me thinking about him. I hope we did and I know what happened wasn't my fault. No, he wouldn't want me to ever be sad. But that is life and music.
Love is an odd emotion. I've had love that I thought would stay then didn't. Being wrapped in it was a wonderful feeling. I would like to find it again but not sure.
That is the phrase.
Don't worry about bringing me down. I can do that on my own at times.
Yeah. I always used to say something similar when I was young. That no matter what emotion I was feeling at the time, I could use music to change my mood quite easily. That's not usually as true these days as it was back in the age where you're not much more than a walking bundle of hormones going haywire, but the good songs still do the trick sometimes.
It's okay to be sad when you think of him. As much as I'm sure he doesn't want to see you sad, I'm sure he understands. And hell... maybe I'm just projecting, but I think most of us probably would secretly enjoy seeing people sad about is not being around anymore too, right? I think all of us want to believe that It's A Wonderful Life could be about us, or why would we watch it? Nobody wants to leave and look down and see that everybody is having a great time now that they're not around anymore.
Yanno... It's just... It is what it is. You feel what you feel when you feel it. That can't be helped none. It's what you chose to do that you've got control over.
I lost my friend's dad who was a mentor and like a 2nd father to me a few years back, and then my grandma who was the one person who just loved me unconditionally followed right after him. I know I haven't been the same ever since. Sometimes I feel like the version of me that was here when they were doesn't even exist anymore.
I'm still not over it. I disappeared into my projects and tuned most everything else out. I'm still doing that with my house right now, now that I've nearly completed what I wanted to do with the computer stuff. But at least I think it's a step back in the right direction. A step back toward real life.
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He also put on a good religion show with 'Songs of Praise' he was big into worship music from Blacks, Whites he seemed to like the chords and melody from church.
can you imagine a K-Pop star of today putting Buddhist chants into their album or big Jesus songs? How many people today know he sang Miracle of the Rosary, I dont think he faked that I think he had a very faith, belief part to him
I dont know if he lived it, at times his life is contradiction but think Elvis had a real prayer religion side to him. He did have problems with weight was hooked on meds, I dont think it was for show I think he also belied in something and was spiritual and not in the Fake Plastic Evangelical way, sang a song from the Swedish 'O Store Gud' / How Great Thou Art. I think he had a genuine like for Gospel.
Served with the US in West Germany, from Mississippi, USA the old Silent Generation, the USSR the Ruskie the Iron Curtain of Communism was scary. People in 'The West' today take in foreign belief and immigration but they seem to reject their own religion, it was different back then.
'Amazing Grace'
and also "Crying in the Chapel"
then it changed, you didnt put those type of songs in your pop star album from the 1980s to today...maybe a Santa Claus song but the old Gospel stuff is gone from pop stars.
Priscilla Presley I know she was an activist for a while, maybe they in the movie tv world got to her after his death, she became a member of the L Ron Hubbard Scientologist gang, she made money on his brand with a new 'Agent Elvis' cartoon, Christina Hendricks and a bunch of other famous Hollywood names also voiced the toon.
Elvis Died aged 42
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
You, SIX are a rotten kid. I like both these songs. They speak to me in someway that have both almost had me in tears.
:( I'm sorry Brenda.
Did you know of 2AM before? I know it got good airplay back in the late 2000's. I actually had Anna's album. There were quite a few good songs on it that never got any play.
I love both of the songs because they're REAL. These girls wrote them, and they weren't just written by the same people that write 90% of the music you ever hear.
I'm sure I got you thinking about Blair again. It sounds like you two had a great go of it, and what happened wasn't your fault. I don't think that he'd be happy if he knew you were sad when thinking about him.
I'm envious of you, actually. I think there were a few girls I dated that were really amazing, but my heart was never really in it. I don't think I'm capable of the type of love necessary to have anything lasting. I've been loved, but I don't think I've ever actually felt love. At least not the kind of love that remains after the newness phase of a relationship ends and the relationship becomes increasingly less about the Grand Gestures and just becomes routine.
What's that phrase? It's better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all.
--------------------------------------------------
Be Nice. Don't be a dick.
It's okay SIX. Music can move to tears or near to tears.
I think I have heard it before but not sure where. Might have been on the radio in a car with one of Blair's friends that were driving me to do something for him.
They did get me thinking about him. I hope we did and I know what happened wasn't my fault. No, he wouldn't want me to ever be sad. But that is life and music.
Love is an odd emotion. I've had love that I thought would stay then didn't. Being wrapped in it was a wonderful feeling. I would like to find it again but not sure.
That is the phrase.
Don't worry about bringing me down. I can do that on my own at times.
Yeah. I always used to say something similar when I was young. That no matter what emotion I was feeling at the time, I could use music to change my mood quite easily. That's not usually as true these days as it was back in the age where you're not much more than a walking bundle of hormones going haywire, but the good songs still do the trick sometimes.
It's okay to be sad when you think of him. As much as I'm sure he doesn't want to see you sad, I'm sure he understands. And hell... maybe I'm just projecting, but I think most of us probably would secretly enjoy seeing people sad about is not being around anymore too, right? I think all of us want to believe that It's A Wonderful Life could be about us, or why would we watch it? Nobody wants to leave and look down and see that everybody is having a great time now that they're not around anymore.
Yanno... It's just... It is what it is. You feel what you feel when you feel it. That can't be helped none. It's what you chose to do that you've got control over.
I lost my friend's dad who was a mentor and like a 2nd father to me a few years back, and then my grandma who was the one person who just loved me unconditionally followed right after him. I know I haven't been the same ever since. Sometimes I feel like the version of me that was here when they were doesn't even exist anymore.
I'm still not over it. I disappeared into my projects and tuned most everything else out. I'm still doing that with my house right now, now that I've nearly completed what I wanted to do with the computer stuff. But at least I think it's a step back in the riNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
The deep religion Janyz came from the fact he was raised in the South as a Southern Baptist. To my understanding that church is heavy into music, so he sang in church.
"GI Blues" was also sort of around his time in the army.
Unless you are Blues today you can't put really heavy religious music into a pop album. Or you are part of a Christian band. Now that is an oxymoron if there ever was one.
He was also part Indian and yes his ex made more money off his name.
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