Iranian officials on Tuesday urged young people to form human chains to protect power plants
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Quote:I have always known that Trumptards misunderstand the simplest things going on all around them. What happened yesterday was just one more occasion for Trumptards to prove they confuse up with down and left with right.
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No matter what Trump does, you're always going to say bullshit.
You two idiots were afraid it was the end of the world yesterday.
Shut the fuck up.
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Hegseth Accidentally Reveals Big Hole in Trump Victory Claim
Who blinked first? So Iran came to the table because Trump threatened to blow up their civilization, eh? Sorry, that spin is in tatters.
By Greg Sargent | April 8, 2026
https://newrepublic.com/article/208794/hegseth-reveals-hole-trump-vict
ory-claim
Now that Donald Trump has backed off his threat to obliterate a nation of 93 million people, his propagandists are already retconning it into proof of his Solomon-like foresight and wisdom. The new spin is that the war with Iran temporarily ended in a ceasefire precisely because he made this threat, forcing Iran to renegotiate on more favorable terms.
“Iran ultimately understood—their ability to produce, to generate power, to fuel their terrorist regime—was in our hands,” Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth told reporters Wednesday, in response to questions about Trump’s threat. Hegseth insisted Trump’s vow to eradicate “a whole civilization” persuaded Iran that he could crush their ability to “export energy” and thus end the entire basis for the regime’s existence.
“That type of threat is what brought them to the place where they effectively said, ‘We want to cut this deal,’” Hegseth continued. This talking point has gone out widely: GOP Representative Mike Lawler of New York, a top target of Democrats, suggested that due to Trump’s “extreme rhetoric,” the Iranians “understand for once that they need to actually negotiate.”
But there’s a small problem with this spin. It’s that the Iranians were already negotiating with Trump before the war started. Trump largely sabotaged those negotiations, because he was talked into believing the war would be easy and deliver a quick burst of glory. Trump’s approach to the talks made success impossible—deliberately.
As The New York Times’ magnum opus on this reveals, Trump had decided to take the plunge (all that remained uncertain was the timing) weeks before those talks with Iran hit their critical phase. This was partly because Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu talked Trump into believing the risks of war were manageable—that strikes could render the Iranian regime too debilitated to close the Strait of Hormuz (which proved disastrously wrong). U.S. intelligence officials disputed Israeli confidence about all this, the Times reports, but Trump brushed off these warnings—because he “appeared to think it would be a very quick war.”
The prewar talks with Iran were doomed because Trump shifted between objectives in a way that ensured that outcome. The core issue was supposed to be ending Iran’s capacity to develop a nuke. But the Times also reveals that Iran was prepared to make meaningful concessions on that front, yet Trump officials effectively decided only regime change was acceptable, ensuring war.
For Hegseth’s story to be true, Iran would have to be more willing to give Trump the concessions he wants than before, due to his mighty threats. But, while the war did badly degrade the Iranian military and kill many senior leaders, here’s what else we know: The regime is still there in more radicalized and brutal form. The strait is being reopened, but as Ben Rhodes notes, the regime’s control over it now appears tighter. The fate of Iran’s nuclear material remains as indeterminate as ever.
Will talks now get Trump a better deal than he might have gotten the first time? Maybe, but Iran seems emboldened by its survival to deman
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Quote:Only Losers Play the Madman
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No matter what Trump does, you're always going to say bullshit.
You two idiots were afraid it was the end of the world yesterday.
Shut the fuck up.
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Does Trump seem crazy? Sure. Credible, not so much.
By David Frum | April 8, 2026, 4:43 PM ET
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/04/trump-iran-war-ceasefire/686
736/
The most important thing to understand about the “madman theory” of foreign policy is that it was designed by losers for losers.
The world first heard of the madman theory from a 1978 memoir by President Richard Nixon’s former chief of staff H. R. Haldeman. According to Haldeman, Nixon said: “I want the North Vietnamese to believe I’ve reached the point where I might do anything to stop the war.” Faced with an otherwise hopeless war in Vietnam, Nixon would pretend to be crazy to intimidate the North Vietnamese into allowing him some face-saving escape.
Nobody executes a madman strategy when he feels that he’s winning. Strong and successful powers emphasize consistency and predictability. So do powers that hope to be seen as strong and successful. When China’s foreign minister speaks to the world, he uses language such as “China will be a reliable force for stability” and China “is providing the greatest certainty in this uncertain world.” He understands that true power does not need to boast or yell.
Those who feel their power ebbing, however, may bluster and bellow. Over the seven weeks of his Iran war so far, Donald Trump has discovered that no amount of the force at his disposal will calm world energy markets or boost his sagging poll numbers. He has tried a double strategy of promising imminent breakthroughs in negotiations while posting ever more violent threats on social media to ostensibly accelerate those negotiations. But if this was a madman strategy, it signally failed to gain the advantage that he sought. Everyone could see that Trump wanted a deal more than his Iranian counterparts did. A good rule of thumb is that the side that wants a deal more is the side that is losing.
The madman strategy is for not-crazy leaders caught in adverse predicaments. It’s a strategy of deception. The madman strategist pretends to be willing to do things that he’s not really willing to do. This approach relies on credibility: Rivals must be able to take the threat of extreme action seriously.
Trump’s problems with this strategy are ironic. Foreign leaders are surely willing to believe that Trump is “crazy” in the sense that he is detached from reality. They have seen him miscalculate risk and bungle all kinds of projects, such as his trade wars with China and his attempted coup on January 6, 2021. But they also know that when push really comes to shove, Trump will flinch. TACO has become, like NATO, an acronym so familiar that it no longer needs spelling out.
The Iranians just executed the most dramatic TACO event in history. Trump threatened to annihilate their entire civilization if they didn’t agree to his demands to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Iran defied the threat—and now Trump has apparently conceded control over the strait and the right to impose tolls on the ships that navigate it. On the point in which Trump tried hardest to terrorize, the Iranians aptly guessed that he was bluffing.
Trump has taught the world that he has every quality of the madman except indifference to pain. He likes his wars unilateral, quick, and cheap. He won’t seek consent from Congress; he cannot appeal to public opinion. He just gambles that the war will end before his poll numbers sink too deep. When this latest war of his turned difficult, he panicked. Everyone could see the panic, including the Iranians. His blood-curdling Truth Social posts—shocking as they were—proclaimed desperation, not resolve. That’s the Trump version of the madman strategy: yelling at people in
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Quote:The reports I heard were women and children were the human shield.
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Donald Trump Warns a ‘Whole Civilization Will Die Tonight’ if a Deal With Iran Isn’t Reached
https://news.wttw.com/2026/04/07/donald-trump-warns-whole-civilization
-will-die-tonight-if-deal-iran-isn-t-reached
Any of you idiots here or in the media telling everybody that Iran was winning the war can shut right the fuck up now.
"Winners" don't tell their youth to commit suicide and go form circles around the only targets that are keeping the entire country from being sent back to the middle ages.
They're only doing that because they know we have cunts like Ted living in America who will scream about it.
Fuck Iran. Fuck Iranians.
Blow it all up and finish this.
Also, that less than 1% of Iranians have access to internet. With no data on Starlink usage.
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CNBC: Oil Plunges 15%
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/07/oil-prices-iran-war-trump-deadline-str
ait-hormuz.html
According to your idiots, nothing at all has changed, Second.
The markets would beg to differ. If nothing changed, there's no reason for oil to drop 15%.
You lose again. You are a loser.
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Yesterday, Hormuz was blocked and Trump spent the night bombing bridges.
Today, Iran has agreed to beg to be bombed as soon as the first ship is restricted thru Hormuz.
The opposite of the same.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:The reports I heard were women and children were the human shield.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Donald Trump Warns a ‘Whole Civilization Will Die Tonight’ if a Deal With Iran Isn’t Reached
https://news.wttw.com/2026/04/07/donald-trump-warns-whole-civilization
-will-die-tonight-if-deal-iran-isn-t-reached
Any of you idiots here or in the media telling everybody that Iran was winning the war can shut right the fuck up now.
"Winners" don't tell their youth to commit suicide and go form circles around the only targets that are keeping the entire country from being sent back to the middle ages.
They're only doing that because they know we have cunts like Ted living in America who will scream about it.
Fuck Iran. Fuck Iranians.
Blow it all up and finish this.
Of course they did. If they had a bunch of men stand around them, our Media wouldn't bother covering it, but put women and children around the targets and that sells ads to idiots on the left who need a constant dopamine drip for their hate boners.
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Also, that less than 1% of Iranians have access to internet. With no data on Starlink usage.
Yeah...?
That's fucked.
It's strange thinking that was us only 30 years ago.
Imagine that we were the country where the entire world were focusing on and the only information we got was from the local papers and the news with no input or discussion out of any of us.
Just like when we were kids... except its a world where everybody else in developed nations has that ability except for you.
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course they did. If they had a bunch of men stand around them, our Media wouldn't bother covering it, but put women and children around the targets and that sells ads to idiots on the left who need a constant dopamine drip for their hate boners.
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Fuck Iran. Fuck Iranians.
Blow it all up and finish this.
they're going to be obliterated.
Fuck you, Mahmoud.
Let's see you whine about what's fair and not fair while you're on a slab in Gitmo being waterboarded, screen bitch.
You get a head shot! And you get a head shot! And you get a head shot!
ALIKABLAM!
If you can't manage to sit down and shut the fuck up for the rest of your lives, watch your backs.
And there's so much more, SIX. You've had a hate boner going on for quite a while already. You're just as bad as SECOND and THUGR and WISHY. The only difference is your targets.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
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The Forever Spoiler: Netanyahu Has Been Blowing Up Diplomacy With Iran for Decades
Israel’s vicious attack on Lebanon emerged as the biggest threat to the Iran ceasefire. That might be intentional.
By Jamal Abdi | April 9 2026, 4:36 p.m
https://theintercept.com/2026/04/09/netanyahu-iran-ceasefire-israel-le
banon/
The ceasefire announced Tuesday night by President Donald Trump and confirmed by Iranian officials is on life support. If Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu gets his way, it may soon be dead.
Over the first 36 hours of the supposed ceasefire, hundreds have been killed and thousands injured in Israeli strikes on Lebanon. The attacks extended beyond Israeli’s traditional targets in southern Lebanon and Beirut’s outskirts into the central parts of the capital — and may mark the heaviest bombardment of the country since Israel’s 1982 invasion.
Trump suggested the ceasefire remains intact because Israel’s attacks are “a separate skirmish,” but the official announcement of the agreement described “an immediate ceasefire everywhere including Lebanon.” The language was put forward by Pakistan’s prime minister, who had brokered the deal and, according to the New York Times, the U.S. had seen the text before it was publicly released.
The words “including Lebanon,” however, lasted no longer than it took for Netanyahu to talk to Trump immediately before the ceasefire announcement. Trump confirmed Thursday that he told Netanyahu to “low-key it,” appearing to give Israel a green light to immediately violate the ceasefire and put it at risk of collapse.
In response, Iran says it will not open the Strait of Hormuz so long as Israel is violating the ceasefire. And planned talks in Islamabad for the U.S. and Iran to hammer out a longer-term agreement during the two-week ceasefire window have been thrown into doubt.
Netanyahu once said, “America is a thing you can move very easily.”
For his part, Netanyahu sought to dispel any notion that the Iran war was ending, emphasizing that the ceasefire is temporary and “a way station on the way to achieving all of our goals.”
When it comes exerting Israeli influence on the U.S., Netanyahu once infamously said, “America is a thing you can move very easily.” Indeed, according to reports, it was Netanyahu who convinced Trump to launch this war in the first place.
Now, potentially upending U.S. efforts to disentangle itself from conflict with Iran, the Israeli prime minister finds himself on familiar footing: playing the role of spoiler against any form of U.S.–Iran détente.
Decades of Détente-Busting
America’s supposed junior partner has worked ceaselessly to prevent any off-ramp from confrontation between the U.S. and Iran. In 1995, when Iran and the U.S. flirted with economic rapprochement by opening the Iran oil industry to American investment and development, Israel and AIPAC lobbied Congress and President Bill Clinton to block it.
In 2002, as Iran worked directly with the U.S. on Afghanistan in the aftermath of September 11, seeking a grand bargain, Israel interdicted a weapons shipment it said was bound for Palestinian forces, making questionable claims about the shipment’s Iranian provenance. The seizure helped tank the exploratory talks on Afghanistan and convinced President George W. Bush instead to infamously cast Iran as part of the “axis of evil.”
Over the course of President Barack Obama’s Iran nuclear talks from 2013 to 2015, Israel worked to block a deal — with Netanyahu engaging in unprecedented efforts to sabotage diplomacy. He even addressed a joint session of Congress against a nuclear deal over the White House’s objections. Ultimately, Netanyahu succeeded with Trump’s ascension: Under intense lobbying, Trump tore up the deal and nearly brought the countries to war before his first term ended.
Joe Biden campaigned on reentering the deal, but that aim was prematurely dispatched during Biden’s transition when Israel assassinated Iran’s top nuclear scientist in 2020, prompting Iranian hard-liners to pass leg
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course they did. If they had a bunch of men stand around them, our Media wouldn't bother covering it, but put women and children around the targets and that sells ads to idiots on the left who need a constant dopamine drip for their hate boners.Quote:
Fuck Iran. Fuck Iranians.
Blow it all up and finish this.
they're going to be obliterated.
Fuck you, Mahmoud.
Let's see you whine about what's fair and not fair while you're on a slab in Gitmo being waterboarded, screen bitch.
You get a head shot! And you get a head shot! And you get a head shot!
ALIKABLAM!
If you can't manage to sit down and shut the fuck up for the rest of your lives, watch your backs.
And there's so much more, SIX. You've had a hate boner going on for quite a while already. You're just as bad as SECOND and THUGR and WISHY. The only difference is your targets.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
Whatever.
They're all cancer over there.
I hope the Muslims and the Jews take each other out so none of us have to deal with any of them anymore.
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