Star Trek XI vs. Serenity

POSTED BY: chronicthehedgehog
UPDATED: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 22:17
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MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Monday, March 14, 2005 9:42 PM

Marginally o/t, but Enterprise Season 4 began on TV over here (I think I may have missed the first, oh 3 years of it). I tried to watch, I really did -

started with the Drazi talking to N'Drath and another alien, with some shell-less turtles outside (not awful CGI actually) and one of the aliens was clearly Tucker "every SF series ever" Smallwood. Then it cut to T'niPol in short shorts giving some sort of wierd head up erotic massage to Chief Engineer Bones "I'm a Southern gent - minut julip anyone?" McCoy.

Then there was Sam Beckett looking in the mirror, but they screwed the edit on Channel 4 and cut the "oh boy".

At which point they played the theme tune, and I realised that season 4 was much more dynamic and bold than the first three seasons because they had speeded up the song and put the drums from the DS9 mark II theme behind it.

Then I turned off the television and promised I would give season 5 a chance when it comes around.

"I threw up on your bed"

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Monday, March 14, 2005 9:42 PM

Marginally o/t, but Enterprise Season 4 began on TV over here (I think I may have missed the first, oh 3 years of it). I tried to watch, I really did -

started with the Drazi talking to N'Drath and another alien, with some shell-less turtles outside (not awful CGI actually) and one of the aliens was clearly Tucker "every SF series ever" Smallwood. Then it cut to T'niPol in short shorts giving some sort of wierd head up erotic massage to Chief Engineer Bones "I'm a Southern gent - minut julip anyone?" McCoy.

Then there was Sam Beckett looking in the mirror, but they screwed the edit on Channel 4 and cut the "oh boy".

At which point they played the theme tune, and I realised that season 4 was much more dynamic and bold than the first three seasons because they had speeded up the song and put the drums from the DS9 mark II theme behind it.

Then I turned off the television and promised I would give season 5 a chance when it comes around.

"I threw up on your bed"

EMMA

Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:12 AM

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EMBERS
Friday, March 11, 2005 - 18:03
In the mean time I am thrilled that Joss has created the anti-Star Trek
a world where all human ills have NOT been solved by an all powerful Federation

I agree with everything said so far (although the Trek verse doesn't quite match up to anything Whedon can do) but the anti-Trek world has been done a zillion times before.

Anyone remember a particularly brilliant British show called Blake's 7...it was quite influential? Babylon 5, Farscape and Firefly are all quite similar to it in many ways.

BROWNED

Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:38 AM

I got into the 'Enterprise' mainly because I liked the work that Scott B. did in 'Quantum Leap'. The real problem with the series was that every sincle Gene R. died the slowly kept moving further away from its original mission statement.

Gene saw 'Star Trek' as a cowbow, western in outer space that used the science fictional genre to make some very progressive commentary about issues of the late 1960's i.e. planned parenthood, the youth movement, racism, women's liberation, and the cold war. Aside from the 'issue of the week' the show had a level of ethnic diversity that was unheard then [and sadly all too often today].

Gene was a humanist and the orignal show never forgot that. Star Trek the Next Generation in many ways tried to stay true to the mission statement. Right before Gene died he had a press release saying that he was going to put a gay character into the show -- I think it was a male nurse -- and that would have been the time of tv milstone, especially if the character was treated as a real person. This would have been in 1991 so it would have been big, think "Willow and Tara" big.

Gene died and the 'issue' was forgotten about and their been plently of internet debate over the 'issue.' [including a nice web site outlining the history] Frankly, the writing became less about less about the mission statmenet in DSP and Voyager and Enterprise.

You look at "Buffy" and "Fire Fly" were sexuality and sexual orientation is a fact of life and something that is creatively explored as natural part of life and then you look at where "Star Trek" has gone and you wonder how something like "Fire Fly" gets killed [I would argue from day one when Fox told people in the ads what was inside the box. Although I figured it was either a person or a rather large porn collection] while "Star Trek" was allowed to slowly die.

Edward TJ Brown
Moorhead, MN 56560
http://www.geocities.com/edwardtjbrown/

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:17 PM

I agree, Trek (although I love it)never was a show that served the common man. Just to be in Starfleet meant you had to be somewhat above average. Which is why I love Firefly- they're trying to survive, and that's a bold mission I can identify with!
uh-oh, Voltones, gotta go.

Chrisisall

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