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Trump Is Destroying Everything He Touches

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 1:54 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

What part of this don't you get, stupid?

If the world economy goes down the shit tubes, the people who are currently holding the gold are going to keep that gold and it ain't going to make one lick of difference how much gold your fake portfolio says you've got in there.

You might as well be pissing your money away on Bitcoin before somebody yanks the rug out from under you.



And if you have actual gold in your hands, good luck keeping it once somebody else knows you've got some. You won't ever be able to spend it anywhere without putting yourself and anybody you live with in danger.

So have fun with your fake and/or worthless gold either way, dipshit.

The world is NOT going down the drain, but the price of gold is rising because of Trump flushing the Federal government's reputation for reliably backing U.S. Treasury bonds. Central banks are selling U.S. Bonds and buying gold instead. The banks are not waiting for Trump to arbitrarily and capriciously zero the value of the US bonds held by foreign central banks. Trump could do that crazy thing if the notion took over his mind, at least until the Senate removes him from power.

Do I have to mention that Trump has been bankrupt many times, divorced many times, convicted of crimes many times, sued many times, and raped many children because he is not a steady and reliable person?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 3:06 AM

Talking with you and your always-shifting goalposts is a pointless endeavor.

I'm just going to go back to calling you stupid without trying to explain anything because you're a mindless gooning cultist.

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 6:50 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Talking with you and your always-shifting goalposts is a pointless endeavor.

I'm just going to go back to calling you stupid without trying to explain anything because you're a mindless gooning cultist.

6ix, see if you can twist this story into a bizarre misinterpretation of reality. Then you can congratulate yourself for being smarter than the reporter or me. Finally, call everyone a cultist and a sufferer of Trump Derangement Syndrome. I know you can do it because it's the only thing you do after flunking out of college when you felt smarter than all professors:

Trump Labor Department Says His Immigration Raids Are Causing a Food Crisis

In a filing in the Federal Register, the Labor Department argues there are “immediate dangers to the American food supply” due to a lack of migrant agricultural workers.

By David Dayen | October 8, 2025

https://prospect.org/politics/trump-labor-department-immigration-ICE-f
ood-crisis
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The Department of Labor’s new rule cutting farmworker wages bluntly states that souped-up immigration enforcement has devastated the agricultural workforce and created a significant “risk of supply shock-induced food shortages,” according to a document filed in the Federal Register last week. The document also indicates that American workers are simply not interested in and do not have the skills to perform agricultural jobs, at odds with Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins’s claim that the farm workforce will soon be 100 percent American.

“The near total cessation of the inflow of illegal aliens combined with the lack of an available legal workforce, results in significant disruptions to production costs and threatening the stability of domestic food production and prices for U.S consumers,” the document says, adding that “this threat will grow” given new federal funding for immigration enforcement under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

The rule seeks to bring in guest workers through the H-2A program at lower wages, potentially reducing wages across the spectrum for all farmworkers, regardless of legal status. But in order to do so quickly, Trump’s Department of Labor is surprisingly citing the downside risks of its own president’s mass deportation program, arguing that it is causing “immediate dangers to the American food supply.”

“They’re sort of, I guess refreshingly, explicit about how this is going to go down,” said Daniel Costa, an attorney with the Economic Policy Institute (EPI) who tracks the H-2A program. But this claim of mass carnage from immigration has a very particular intent: the only way out of the crisis, the Labor Department states, is to hire many more foreign workers to pick U.S. crops at lower wages, a direct transfer of income from workers in the fields to their agribusiness employers.

Only one of two things can be true: Either Trump’s Labor Department actually believes that Trump’s immigration enforcement is destroying the agricultural sector and threatening food security, or they are pretending this threat is real in order to crush wages for both foreign and domestic agricultural workers. Neither look particularly good.

THE RULE IN QUESTION CONCERNS WHAT IS KNOWN as the Adverse Effect Wage Rate (AEWR), which is set for H-2A agricultural workers. H-2A gives one-year visas to foreign nationals to work in agriculture. They must work for the grower who sponsors the visa, and they lack basic worker protections that domestic workers have, like the ability to get overtime pay. The program has been called a form of slavery by critics in the past.

H-2A, which was established in the 1980s, has evolved from an occasional program to fill gaps in the workforce to one increasingly relied on by employers. About one in five agricultural workers is on an H-2A visa, nearly a ten-fold increase from 20 years ago. While employers are supposed to advertise for U.S. workers to fill jobs first, this expansion of H-2A has continued virtually unabated. There is no cap on the program, so agribusiness ca

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THG
Thursday, October 9, 2025 8:19 AM

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/-she-s-listening-to-her-consti
tuents-why-mtg-is-breaking-with-gop-over-health-care-249350213545


Projected premium increases healthcare

West Virginia 387%

Wyoming 382%

Alaska 346%

Tennesse 320%

Mississippi 314%

Texas 289%

South Carolina 285%

Alabama 284%

South Dakkota 235%

North Dakota 234%



Talk about inflation aye signym?

T

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 8:21 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/-she-s-listening-to-her-consti
tuents-why-mtg-is-breaking-with-gop-over-health-care-249350213545


Projected premium increases healthcare

West Virginia 387%

Wyoming 382%

Alaska 346%

Tennesse 320%

Mississippi 314%

Texas 289%

South Carolina 285%

Alabama 284%

South Dakkota 235%

North Dakota 234%



T




We will see what happens, I guess.

If that's true, Republicans will not win the midterms and they deserve to lose.

There's no reason for anybody to believe right now that it is true because everything they've ever said has been wrong up to this point, but if it is true that's the end of Republicans running things.

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 8:23 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Talking with you and your always-shifting goalposts is a pointless endeavor.

I'm just going to go back to calling you stupid without trying to explain anything because you're a mindless gooning cultist.

6ix, see if you can twist this story into a bizarre misinterpretation of reality. Then you can congratulate yourself for being smarter than the reporter or me.



I take no pride, nor do I congratulate myself for being smarter than you or David.

It would be no different than me patting myself on the back for being smarter than a kid with Down Syndrome or Ted.

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THG
Thursday, October 9, 2025 8:34 AM

Smart people don't flunk out of junior college Gilligan. And you did it twice. Can you spell narcissist?

T

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THG
Thursday, October 9, 2025 8:53 AM

Brazil’s beef exports to China surge as Trump’s tariffs shift global demand

Brazil’s beef exports to China are on the rise as part of the Asian nation’s larger strategy to avoid agricultural goods from the United States amid their ongoing trade dispute.

Brazil’s beef exports to China rose 38.3 percent in September from a year earlier, reaching 187,340 tonnes, the industry group Abrafrigo said on Wednesday, helping push total monthly exports to a record high.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/brazil-s-beef-exports-to-chi
na-surge-as-trump-s-tariffs-shift-global-demand/ar-AA1O6jJK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDBBAN&cvid=9f1ca2aa498b4f9f8019781604442021&ei=96




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Thursday, October 9, 2025 9:46 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
Smart people don't flunk out of junior college Gilligan. And you did it twice. Can you spell narcissist?

T




As I've told you many times before, I dropped out of Jr. College four times.

I also bought a house with cash when I was 32 years old and haven't owed a cent of debt to anybody since August of 2005.





And before you start asking anybody if they can spell words, you should figure out the difference between too, to and two, Mr. College Graduate.




I'm all of the good parts of Rain Man, with very few of the negatives.

You got all the bad parts of the autism spectrum with none of the positives, I'm afraid.

But you keep lording that worthless college degree you got over everyone in your life. It's why there is nobody in your life and I'm the closest thing you have to a friend, Theodore.



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Thursday, October 9, 2025 11:59 PM

Trump is full of shit: "JUST OUT: Good news for the Holiday Season. EARLY PRICES ARE DOWN, WHILE TARIFFS ARE MAKING OUR COUNTRY AN ECONOMIC POWER AGAIN. Also, virtually NO INFLATION, AS STOCK MARKETS CONTINUALLY HIT RECORD HIGHS. THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS FOR THE U.S.A."
7:10 AM · Oct 6, 2025
https://x.com/TrumpTruthOnX/status/1975171710342267001

Roughly half of U.S. states are effectively in a recession and ‘hanging on by their fingertips,’ Moody’s chief economist says

By Eleanor Pringle | October 9, 2025 at 10:16 AM EDT

https://fortune.com/2025/10/09/america-feels-recession-state-dependent
-income-cohort-moody-zandi
/

ANALYSIS: Despite strong national figures—3.8% GDP growth and 4.3% unemployment—large parts of the U.S. are effectively in recession, according to Moody’s Analytics. Chief economist Mark Zandi exclusively told Fortune that 22 states are contracting and many lower- and middle-income households are “hanging on by their fingertips,” struggling with debt and slowing wage growth despite steady employment. Private data during the federal shutdown shows weakening consumer confidence, particularly among those earning under $35,000. Zandi warned that if economic softness spreads from smaller, manufacturing-heavy states to giants like California or New York, the national economy could tip into recession.

Everything should feel fine in the economy. Gross domestic product was up a healthy 3.8% in the past quarter, and unemployment has stayed at a steady 4.3%. So why does it seem so tough?

The short answer is: Depending on where you live and who you are, the environment around you is recessionary.

According to analysis from Moody’s Analytics, 22 U.S. states are seeing their economies contract. Meanwhile, just 16 are seeing economic growth, while 13 are classified as “treading water.” That said, the states contributing the most to U.S. GDP—California, Texas, and New York—are all in the clear, pushing the overall growth of the country into the green as a result.

But for those who don’t live in the wealthier states (and indeed, aren’t on the higher end of the income ladder within those regions), things “don’t feel very good,” according to Moody’s chief economist, Mark Zandi.

Zandi told Fortune in an exclusive interview that lower-income households are “hanging on by their fingertips financially.” He explained: “They’ve got a job, so that’s why they’re still able to spend and remain engaged in the economy, but increasingly … the grip feels more tenuous because no one’s getting hired. You can sustain that for a while, but you can’t sustain that forever. If the layoffs do pick up, that lower-middle-income group is gonna get nailed—and they have no options, because they really don’t have much in the way of saving.

“They have debt: They have auto debt, they have student loan debt, they may, if they’re lucky, have a mortgage, but they’re gonna struggle, and their world is going to descend into recession pretty quickly.”

In the absence of federal data during the current government shutdown, private surveys have painted a picture of a weakening consumer. The Conference Board’s U.S. Consumer Confidence Survey, released at the end of September, found that by income cohort, those on the lowest end ($25,000 to $35,000) felt worse about the economy at present than when the survey hit an average low in April this year. Moreover, a little under 20% of respondents said jobs were hard to get, and 25% expected the market to get tougher.

Indeed, Zandi has previously outlined that U.S. fortunes are “tethered” to the prospects of the wealthy as they are the only consumers spending ahead of inflation.

And while job losses and rising unemployment would usually be the hallmark of recession, Zandi said an argument could be made that the lowest earners in America are living in a recessionary environment—regardless of where in the country they live: “They don’t have any assets, they’re in a very tenuous situation, and that feels like a recession and everything except: ‘I’ve got a job.’ The th

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