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Trump Is Destroying Everything He Touches
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Sunday, October 5, 2025 4:37 AM
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Originally posted by THG:
I see you're sourcing zerohedge again.
SIGNY:
I spent way too much time going to MSM and other sources to answer your pretty pointless objection. IN DETAIL. WITH FACTS about the ACA in THIS budget impasse.
Since you didn't bother to respond, I'm not wasting any more time on your endless shell games.
THGR:
You've posted this on the 2nd. After, after, I responded to your posts with 5 or 6 of my own.
And all of them evading the topic at hand: ACA and the Dem shutdown.
Are you for, or against, extending the temporary ACA tax credit?
Are you for, or against, illegals claiming asylum to get ACA tax credits?
Example of an illegal claiming asylum
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Immigration Judge Rejects Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s Asylum Bid
An immigration judge in Maryland on Oct. 1 rejected a motion filed by Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s attorneys to reopen his 2019 petition for asylum in the United States.
Abrego Garcia, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador, was deported to his homeland in March by the Trump administration and was later returned to the United States under a Supreme Court order.
He had initially sought asylum in 2019 but was denied. Abrego Garcia’s attorneys petitioned the immigration court in August to reconsider his asylum case, citing concerns that he could be deported to Uganda.
In an Oct. 1 ruling, the immigration judge in Baltimore denied the request but gave Abrego Garcia 30 days to appeal the decision with the Board of Immigration Appeals.
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) hailed the ruling in a social media post, saying that it affirms Abrego Garcia’s removal from the country.
“With today’s ruling, Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s final order of removal stands,” DHS stated. “His lawyers tried to fight his removal from the U.S. but one thing is certain, this Salvadoran man is not going to be able to remain in our country.”
The Epoch Times reached out to Abrego Garcia’s attorney for comment but did not receive a response by publication time.
Abrego Garcia, who illegally entered the United States in 2011 and stayed in Maryland, was accused of being a member of the foreign terrorist organization MS-13. He was deported to El Salvador alongside other deportees in March despite a 2019 immigration court order granting withholding of removal to his homeland due to safety concerns.
The Salvadoran national was returned to the United States in June under a Supreme Court order and held in custody on charges of immigrant smuggling, stemming from a 2022 traffic stop, to which he has pleaded not guilty.
The administration has indicated that Abrego Garcia could be deported to a third-party country, naming the African nation of Uganda as the possible destination.
Abrego Garcia’s attorneys argued that Abrego Garcia risked persecution or torture if sent to Uganda. ICE then changed the destination country to Eswatini, another African nation with which Abrego Garcia has no ties, according to an email shared by DHS last month.
“That claim of fear is hard to take seriously, especially given that you have claimed (through your attorneys) that you fear persecution or torture in at least 22 different countries,” ICE stated in its email.
U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis ruled in August that Abrego Garcia must remain in the country until she holds a hearing on Oct. 6.
FROM https://www.zerohedge.com/political/immigration-judge-rejects-kilmar-a
brego-garcias-asylum-bid
ORIGINALLY FROM https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/immigration-judge-rejects-kilmar-abre
go-garcias-asylum-bid-5923966
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
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Sunday, October 5, 2025 5:22 AM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I see you're sourcing zerohedge again.
SIGNY:
I spent way too much time going to MSM and other sources to answer your pretty pointless objection. IN DETAIL. WITH FACTS about the ACA in THIS budget impasse.
Since you didn't bother to respond, I'm not wasting any more time on your endless shell games.
THGR:
You've posted this on the 2nd. After, after, I responded to your posts with 5 or 6 of my own.
And all of them evading the topic at hand: ACA and the Dem shutdown.
Are you for, or against, extending the temporary ACA tax credit?
Are you for, or against, illegals claiming asylum to get ACA tax credits?
Example of an illegal claiming asylumQuote:
Immigration Judge Rejects Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s Asylum Bid
An immigration judge in Maryland on Oct. 1 rejected a motion filed by Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s attorneys to reopen his 2019 petition for asylum in the United States.
Abrego Garcia, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador, was deported to his homeland in March by the Trump administration and was later returned to the United States under a Supreme Court order.
He had initially sought asylum in 2019 but was denied. Abrego Garcia’s attorneys petitioned the immigration court in August to reconsider his asylum case, citing concerns that he could be deported to Uganda.
In an Oct. 1 ruling, the immigration judge in Baltimore denied the request but gave Abrego Garcia 30 days to appeal the decision with the Board of Immigration Appeals.
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) hailed the ruling in a social media post, saying that it affirms Abrego Garcia’s removal from the country.
“With today’s ruling, Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s final order of removal stands,” DHS stated. “His lawyers tried to fight his removal from the U.S. but one thing is certain, this Salvadoran man is not going to be able to remain in our country.”
The Epoch Times reached out to Abrego Garcia’s attorney for comment but did not receive a response by publication time.
Abrego Garcia, who illegally entered the United States in 2011 and stayed in Maryland, was accused of being a member of the foreign terrorist organization MS-13. He was deported to El Salvador alongside other deportees in March despite a 2019 immigration court order granting withholding of removal to his homeland due to safety concerns.
The Salvadoran national was returned to the United States in June under a Supreme Court order and held in custody on charges of immigrant smuggling, stemming from a 2022 traffic stop, to which he has pleaded not guilty.
The administration has indicated that Abrego Garcia could be deported to a third-party country, naming the African nation of Uganda as the possible destination.
Abrego Garcia’s attorneys argued that Abrego Garcia risked persecution or torture if sent to Uganda. ICE then changed the destination country to Eswatini, another African nation with which Abrego Garcia has no ties, according to an email shared by DHS last month.
“That claim of fear is hard to take seriously, especially given that you have claimed (through your attorneys) that you fear persecution or torture in at least 22 different countries,” ICE stated in its email.
U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis ruled in August that Abrego Garcia must remain in the country until she holds a hearing on Oct. 6.
FROM https://www.zerohedge.com/political/immigration-judge-rejects-kilmar-a
brego-garcias-asylum-bid
ORIGINALLY FROM https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/immigration-judge-rejects-kilmar-abre
go-garcias-asylum-bid-5923966
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
Now, why are the democrats insisting the new bill kills access to health care for millions of people here legally?
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Sunday, October 5, 2025 5:57 AM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
When you make stupid statements like "Trump is destroying EVERYTHING he touches" all anyone has to do is prove one thing NOT destroyed to prove you wrong, silly.
It's an American term going way back. And then there's this comrade. Rudy Giuliani's daughter backs Harris, says Trump 'destroys everything he touches,' or, everything he touches dies is another turn on the phrase.
The term "destroys everything he touches" is often associated with Robert Redford, who used it to criticize U.S. President Donald Trump, suggesting that Trump "degrades everything he touches". This phrase has been widely shared in memes and discussions, particularly in political contexts, reflecting broader themes of leadership and character flaws
Fact Check: Robert Redford once wrote Trump 'degrades' everything he touches?
It is painfully clear we have a president who degrades everything he touches, a person who does not understand (or care?) that his duty is to defend our democracy. Our shared tolerance and respect for the truth, our sacred rule of law, our essential freedom of the press and our precious freedoms of speech—all have been threatened by a single man. Trump and his billionaire buddies want to take us back to the days of a political spoils system that served corporate robber barons and left our kids to pay the price.
You didn't understand what I posted because you are not a multi dimensional thinker. Redford says degrades, I say destroys. Common term, "everything he touches." an exaggeration to emphasize a point.
You didn't get it because you think in terms of black or white. So much so you latched onto the thread title like a fish on a hook. How many times have you taken the bait and come back to this point? It was fun stringing you along, but it's time I released you.
Do you know what I mean lass? too funny...
T
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Sunday, October 5, 2025 5:59 AM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:You're blowing all kinds of shit about business failures and price increases, and you didn't even bother to see if that was really happening?
Originally posted by THG:
full of maybes what ifs and rabbit holes. I hope you do not think your response warrants an explanatory response from me; because I don’t.
IT'S NOT.
See my post, above, with actual... yanno ... FACTS.
So you'll forgive me for not taking you seriously.
There's nothing wrong with tariffs theoretically, and SO FAR they haven't had any negative effects. Only time will tell.
So let's move on from here bc aside from your point that tariffs are illegal (most probably true), you don't have any other arguments.
Let's try a new approach of presenting you with evidence and fact of how Trumps' tariffs are killing America. Argue with this post. Tell me the charts are incorrect.
T
Beef Prices Surge Across U.S. as Farmers Struggle With Trump-Era Tariffs
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/beef-prices-surge-across-u-s-a
s-farmers-struggle-with-trump-era-tariffs/vi-AA1NGeY6?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDBBAN&cvid=68e1a9a261494d3294441bcc3feb76bc&ei=155
Photographer catches DAMNING text on Trump official’s phone
T
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Sunday, October 5, 2025 6:10 AM
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U.S. Cattle Inventory Smallest in 73 years
Feb 2024
USDA’s January and July Cattle Inventory reports, released toward the end of each respective month, provide the total inventory of beef cows, milk cows, bulls, replacement heifers, other steers and heifers, and the calf crop for the current year. With drought and high input costs compelling farmers to market a higher-than-normal percentage of female cattle, the most recent cattle inventory dropped to lows not seen in decades. This Market Intel will provide analysis of the Jan. 1 inventory, which will set the tone for cattle markets in 2024.
https://www.fb.org/market-intel/u-s-cattle-inventory-smallest-in-73-ye
ars
So, who was President in Feb 2024?
Theoretically, Biden.
Notice how beef herds rebounded under Trump 1.0??
NOT A TRUMP PROBLEM, NOT A TARIFF PROBLEM.
Man, you've got Trump Derangement Syndrome bad, THUGR.
Are you gonna answer my two questions about the Dem shutdown and the ACA?
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
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Sunday, October 5, 2025 6:22 AM
The latest round of tariffs on beef imports from Canada and Mexico, imposed by former President Donald Trump, is set to shake up the beef industry. With a 25% tariff on imported beef, costs are expected to rise, and consumers will feel the effects at grocery stores, restaurants, and butcher shops.
Trumps first presidency. This time statistics will show us it's now worse.
Beef Prices Surge Across U.S. as Farmers Struggle With Trump-Era Tariffs
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/beef-prices-surge-across-u-s-a
s-farmers-struggle-with-trump-era-tariffs/vi-AA1NGeY6?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDBBAN&cvid=68e1a9a261494d3294441bcc3feb76bc&ei=155
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Sunday, October 5, 2025 6:30 AM
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For all that I've blessed, and all that I've wronged. In dreams until my death, I will wander on.
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Sunday, October 5, 2025 6:36 AM
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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For all that I've blessed, and all that I've wronged. In dreams until my death, I will wander on.
Shit, death it is then aye Gilligan?
T
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Sunday, October 5, 2025 7:12 AM
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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For all that I've blessed, and all that I've wronged. In dreams until my death, I will wander on.
Shit, death it is then aye Gilligan?
T
What are you jerking your hate boner to tonight?
I have no idea what you're even talking about, demon.
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For all that I've blessed, and all that I've wronged. In dreams until my death, I will wander on.
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Sunday, October 5, 2025 1:30 PM
THGR, your link doesn't work.
The import situation seems to fluctuate quickly so it's hard to get up to date numbers on prices and volumes, but try here
https://www.usimportdata.com/blogs/us-beef-imports-by-country-2025-rep
ort
An indication that this isn't a USA tariff problem, or not JUST a tariff problem, is that beef prices are rising across the northern hemisphere, due to drought and disease affecting production
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New Surge in European Beef Prices – Rinderpest Hits Market
https://athens-times.com/new-surge-in-european-beef-prices-rinderpest-
hits-market/
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Beef costs more than ever, but Canadians won't let that ruin barbecue season
Average cost of ground beef has jumped 25%, far outpacing inflation
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-price-of-beef-1.7596584
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Global cattle prices have all continued their rise through Q2 with Northern Hemisphere countries continuing to stand out at record prices. Led by contractions in Europe (-5% YOY), New Zealand (-17% YOY) and the US (-5% YOY) beef production continued to decline into Q2. Total beef production declined in 1H, down 1% YOY.
https://www.rabobank.com/knowledge/q011332977-global-beef-quarterly-q3
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