Once again... a request for legitimate concerns...
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UPDATED: Tuesday, August 25, 2026 18:28
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Trump is now being trolled in by British protest activists with images of Jeffrey Epstein being projected on to Windsor Castle.
Anatomy of Two Giant Deals: The U.A.E. Got Chips. The Trump Team Got Crypto Riches.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/15/us/politics/trump-uae-chips-witkoff
-world-liberty.html
Free speech no more?
https://x.com/glukianoff/status/1967393517074014356#m
Not even remotely allowed by the First Amendment, and not something a president should even be talking about attempting.
accused networks of being "deep state propaganda arms" for the Democrat Party.
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Pleasing dear leader, you must report good enws
Ex-Disney CEO Lashes Company for Bowing to Trump on Kimmel
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-disney-ceo-michael-eisner-lashes-comp
any-and-bob-iger-for-bowing-to-trump-on-kimmel/
FCC commissioner calls Trump's threat to pull broadcast licenses 'a campaign of censorship'
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/09/19/jimmy-kimmel-fcc
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what POLICIES has Trump initiated that you disagree with?
Tariffs?
Border control?
Cooling off the conflict with Russia?
Deporting illegals?
Supporting Israel?
Scaling back on "clean' energy projects?
Reducing taxes?
Deploying the National Guard to DC?
Ending DEI?
There's lots to discuss besides "Orange man bad", and I'd love to discuss that with you!
THGR:
Now you’ve hit it. All these things tie into how Trump is fucking everything up. I’ll talk about all these in non-rant concise posts. Brief and comprehensive, on topic posts. No whataboutism and you’re on.
Let's start with the first on your list, tariffs. You can start by either defending or condemning them.
I think tariffs are a good idea, but I think Trump is fucking them up.
For the first roughly 150 years, the USA used tariffs to protect domestic industries and generate revenue.
Quote:It's only been since WWII that we started doing away with tariffs.
Tariffs in U.S. history have evolved through three main periods: a revenue period (1790–1860), a restriction period (1861–1933), and a reciprocity period (from 1934 onwards). Initially, tariffs were a primary source of government revenue and aimed to protect domestic industries, but their role has shifted significantly over time, especially with the move towards free trade after World War II.
If you think we should reindustrialize, as I do, tariffs are part of the picture. But IMHO Trump needs to do more than lower taxes on domestic companies, lower energy costs, impose tariffs, and cross his fingers. He needs to compel industries to invest in production instead of stock manipulation, he SHOULD do this sector by sector, and he should insure both infrastructure and supply lines.
Comments?
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
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How would you even know if he's fucking anything up?
The Media does nothing but bash Trump 24/7 for 12 years straight, and they put out new stories that backpedal on old stories or just forget the old stories they printed a week or two ago because they know their readers already forgot about them.
All I know is that things are working 1,000% better than they were a year ago from today. As long as that keeps happening and we're not ushering in the age of Orwell in the meantime, I'm just fine with the way things are going now.
Spent two whole days not posting here or paying any attention at all to politics and it was wonderful. The only reason I'm here today is because I need to break up the monotony of cleaning inside the house and I'm rained out of the yardwork for another 2 days.
My new plan going forward is to limit my political news intake to no more than 20% of what it used to be on a daily average since Covid, and I want to get my old man and a few of my friends to cut out even more than that. I had a pretty deep conversation with my friend's younger brother from the West coast the other night, and while it's clear that he and I (and my friend) probably wouldn't agree much on politics, he simply refuses to talk about them and has cut them almost entirely out of his life. He's sick of wasting all of that time and emotional energy on stuff he has no power over, and during that conversation is when he announced he quit his job at as a chemist at a major pharmaceutical company that I won't name here to go into business with himself. He's been working out again for the first time in 7 years and it really shows. He's got no more time for all of this noise and bullshit, and I want to be more like him.
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The Democrats are the party of Murder.
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I see it signym and I will respond.
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Because when China countered our tariffs by withholding rare earths, it fucked everything up including car manufacturing. Supplies need to be ensured for manufacturing to happen. It's axiomatic.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Because when China countered our tariffs by withholding rare earths, it fucked everything up including car manufacturing. Supplies need to be ensured for manufacturing to happen. It's axiomatic.
And you're talking about a short-term problem that was caused by trying to fix a very, very long-term problem that everybody before now was just kicking down the road, $37 Trillion after the fact and counting.
Our entire economy is built on ponzi schemes. I know that people don't want to fix anything because they can't stand being inconvenienced in present day, but your generation did most of the damage and most of you won't live long enough to suffer the consequences of any of it. I used to think that my generation would eek that one out as well, but the chances of that are looking slimmer by the year.
I'm not going to worry about Tariffs until they've done at least as much long-term damage as Joe Biden*'s inflation for 4 years has done to the American people. I can give a shit less about people not being able to buy a brand new car or $1,500 smart phone every 2 or 3 years like they used to.
Here's an idea on the cars. Take all the computer shit out of them and stop trying to force coal burning cars on everyone, and then nobody needs China's rare earth minerals. It's not as if they're the only place on earth that has them, we're getting a boatload of them from Ukraine in the coming years now, and if we're not wasting them all on huge inefficient EV batteries or trying to make Wind Power make any sense when we have Nuclear power at our disposal, we'll have more than we need for our computer and smart phone needs.
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The Democrats are the party of Murder.
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what POLICIES has Trump initiated that you disagree with?
Tariffs?
Border control?
Cooling off the conflict with Russia?
Deporting illegals?
Supporting Israel?
Scaling back on "clean' energy projects?
Reducing taxes?
Deploying the National Guard to DC?
Ending DEI?
There's lots to discuss besides "Orange man bad", and I'd love to discuss that with you!
THGR:
Now you’ve hit it. All these things tie into how Trump is fucking everything up. I’ll talk about all these in non-rant concise posts. Brief and comprehensive, on topic posts. No whataboutism and you’re on.
Let's start with the first on your list, tariffs. You can start by either defending or condemning them.
I think tariffs are a good idea, but I think Trump is fucking them up.
For the first roughly 150 years, the USA used tariffs to protect domestic industries and generate revenue.Quote:It's only been since WWII that we started doing away with tariffs.
Tariffs in U.S. history have evolved through three main periods: a revenue period (1790–1860), a restriction period (1861–1933), and a reciprocity period (from 1934 onwards). Initially, tariffs were a primary source of government revenue and aimed to protect domestic industries, but their role has shifted significantly over time, especially with the move towards free trade after World War II.
If you think we should reindustrialize, as I do, tariffs are part of the picture. But IMHO Trump needs to do more than lower taxes on domestic companies, lower energy costs, impose tariffs, and cross his fingers. He needs to compel industries to invest in production instead of stock manipulation, he SHOULD do this sector by sector, and he should insure both infrastructure and supply lines.
Comments?
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution vests the power to lay and collect tariffs with Congress. The Founding Fathers intended for legislative oversight on taxation, tariffs, and related financial matters, viewing tariffs as strategic levers to be used with caution and prudence.
The President has limited latitude to act independently of Congress within the boundaries defined by existing legislation and constitutional principles.
This judicial oversight ensures that the President’s tariff-related powers align with congressional intent and constitutional mandates.
Trump with Tariffs, as with all else, ignores the laws and constitutional boundaries put in place to make sure no one individual wreaked havoc, like a bull in a China shop. Which is exactly what Trump did and is doing.
The terrible result of which is detrimental to America, tenfold.
First, it’s a tax on not just American businesses, but also on the taxpayer. Which is why it falls to congress. The president does not declare new taxes. He tells his party what he wants in the form of a budget, and the house and senate hash it out and vote on it.
We are the most powerful country in the world, or at least we were a few months ago. One reason was because we had friends. Allowing them to profit was a way of keeping them friends. These same friends would help us when we needed them too. Now, because of Trump, they hate us.
If you or anyone else thinks we are going to see a resurgence of manufacturing anytime soon in America, wrong. It takes a decade to build the infrastructure needed. Then, wages will be too high for anyone to profit. If Apple wanted to manufacture the iPhone here. It would take a decade to set up the infrastructure. Then it would cost 3,500 dollars per phone.
Price hikes because of tariffs are going to make many businesses go under. And these same price hikes are going to cost the average person around 2,300 annually. Why, so Trump can give 2 trillion in
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Originally posted by THG:
Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution vests the power to lay and collect tariffs with Congress. The Founding Fathers intended for legislative oversight on taxation, tariffs, and related financial matters, viewing tariffs as strategic levers to be used with caution and prudence.
Yeah. They're supposed to start wars too, but the only President in my adult lifetime that didn't start one was the guy in office right now.
What's your point, Ted?
Congress sucks. Everybody knows that congress sucks.
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The Democrats are the party of Murder.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Because when China countered our tariffs by withholding rare earths, it fucked everything up including car manufacturing. Supplies need to be ensured for manufacturing to happen. It's axiomatic.
It's not rare earths that's the problem. We have plenty. It's the infrastructure needed to create the final product that is the problem. Again, one more Trump fuckup.
T
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