any christians here in this entire site please stand up
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Originally posted by SignyM:
So- what do you think of the Gospel of Thomas? Lacking a narrative structure, it is strictly about "And Jesus said..." But what Jesus said doesn't quite match up with what Jesus said in the synoptic Gospels.
Well, I try to only speak about things about which I actually know something (don't laugh it's true).
I haven't read that book or studied its origins. If I ever get a chance to study from whence it was derived, I might be able to offer an opinion. Short of that, though, I can't say. I do understand, however, the means by which the first century church accepted books as "inspired", and (for reasons currently unknown to me -- see above) they chose not to believe this to be an inspired text -- perhaps for the reasons you stated above (I don't know, never studied it).
Note: When I say the first century church, I mean the body of believers as a whole, not some official council several centuries removed. The first century believers were in the best position to know the authenticity of the NT books, as the authors were still living when those books were initially circulated. It would've been hard for an "Epistle to Chicago" claiming to have been written by the Apostle Paul to show up in Rome in 55 AD, when all Paul would've had to have done would be to say, "Hey, folks, sorry, but that's not from me."
P.S. If we're going to continue this thread, can we please do so with a "part 2..." I have dial-up (I know. Laugh at me.) -- and it takes forever for this page to load. Much appreciated. Thank you.
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Okay. So the facts don't matter to you. The Bible says "murder", but "kill" suits your argument better, so heck with what the Bible says. I see.
No, it's just the default statement when dealing with unknown knowlege levels
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Firstly, it's God's (not Webster's) definition of murder that counts. Secondly, killing someone in war or a criminal via execution is not taking "innocent" life.
So until you can produce God to have him define the word murder for all of us, we'll stick with the dictionary, and the definitions under which you can be prosecuted under the law.
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Actually, I've heard of it all. I've been studying the Bible (English, Hebrew & Greek) from cover to cover for decades
Great, then explain why you would need a tome to explain all of those parts?
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This forum is not the place for a point by point discussion with someone who obviously hasn't studied the Bible in context. I'm willing to do so privately with each and every individual in here who has sincere questions about it.
None of those passages were taken out of context. "Out of Context" is in my experience simply a way to try to weasel out of contradictions, inconsistancies, and proveable falsehood. Of course, many of these things, like the ban on pork and shrimp have logical historical reasoning behind them. Improper storage and cooking can lead to food poisoning, parasites and disease. The fact they were made abmoination is one of the keys that this is the work of men, because had a deity actually wanted to communicate something they would have A- Made the disease non-existant in the first place, or at least provided detailed cooking and storage instructions.
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I am not, however, willing to waste my time debating with people who don't want to know what it actually says, but only want to pick verses entirely out of context of the whole to accuse those of us who believe in it as being fools and idiots.
If I were to accuse you of anything, it would be insanity. Belief in invisisble things with absolutely no evidence is delusional, especially with the mass of peer-reviewable scientific evidence to the contrary. If you were advocating Froo-Froo the purple hippo with equal fervor they'd put you away.
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My Lord commanded me to be ready to give an account of my faith whenever anyone asks. I have done that. He also commanded me that when the gospel is rejected in blatant unbelief, that I am to wipe the dust from my feet and move on. I am doing that here and now from those who are obviously too intelligent for me to be of any assistance, anyhow.
Really? When? Do you have it written down? Some kind of official document and photo record? I'd amend that to "My priest/pastor/bishop etc told me so"
You know they say when you talk to god, that's being human, when God talks back that's schizophrenia.
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Cardinal Dolan
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says he spent the past week studying Charlie Kirk’s life, and the more he learned, the more he saw him as a modern-day Saint Paul.
A fearless missionary, a passionate evangelist, and a true hero.
“When I heard the tragic news, I said, ‘I wonder who he was.’ And then all of a sudden, this overwhelming, this overwhelming sense of sorrow and kind of renewal.”
“And I thought, I gotta learn about this guy. And the more I learned about him, I thought, this guy's a modern day Saint Paul. He was a missionary, he's an evangelist, he's a hero.”
“He's one that knew what Jesus meant when he said, the truth will set you free. And to do it, Now, I understand he was pretty blunt and he was pretty direct. He didn't try to avoid any controversy. He didn't even try to avoid confrontation. The difference is the way, the mode, the style that he did it, always with respect.”
St. Paul HD
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