Alien Invasion
POSTED BY: SignyM
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What are you talking about? You think its the "smelly, intolerant, annoying liberals" pushing globablization? Some that you might call liberals are, like Hillary, but Bush and the neo-cons are huge globalists. To be honest about it the far left and far right are against globalization...its the center thats for it. That includes most Democrats and Republicans in power. Oh, and no one has voted for Michael Moore because he isn't a politician.
I do. Liberals I call Bush, and the neocons, and yes, Hillary, Joementum, the Benator, and DiFi and I lump them all together and call them "team evil."
But basically I agree with you, only it's one center, there is another center. This is my new theory:
The continuum is not a line, it's a circle. It goes from liberal/statist over ander around through liberal/democrat and then it starts swinging back right through liberal/libertarian until it gets to the center. Then it crosses the middle and becomes conservative/libertarian and curves around through conservative/republican. The it takes a final left hook through conservative/statist until the mid-point and you're back to liberal/statist.
I think I need to make a doodle of this.
The black circle indicates greatest possibility of finding an elected official on this line. areas not on the black line, are less likely. Some probability map could probably be drawn up, but since I'm just shooting pie in the sky I didn't bother.
While I agree with a lot of what Hero says here, most of it in fact, I disagree vehemently on one point, that globalism is inevitable. I think it's an inevitable failure, and it's a pipe dream whose very nature is not only anti-American but essentially Soviet in nature. I object to the use of the word 'conservative' to refer to Bush et al. Sure you can call Bush a conservative, if you really want, but you can't say because Bush want something that 'conservatives' collectively want it. That's absurd. It's beyond absurd. That's like saying the Shiia want a war because the president of Iran seems to. I would imagine that the liberals feel equally uncomfortable being forced into an elevator with Hillary here. So, small qualifier, say "conservative globalists" or "neoconservatives" or something.
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I haven't noticed any "conservative" groups in the fight except maybe Pat Buchanan.
Signym. Trust me, you will. You just haven't been looking in the right places. Right now it's difficult politically for republicans to oppose the Bush admin because he has such a tight control over the party machine, and they need that machine support to get re-elected. As a result, they seem to take turns opposing him, but after Bush falls, which he will, i think you will see a union of surviving conservatives tending much more traditionally, attempt to push the neocon influence back and reassert themselves. Also, some conservatives in europe have been fighting it for a while.
Everyone,
Can we be a little less bashing and a little less partisan?
Here's a problem. I really admire Mr. Buchanan, I think he's a great guy. Some may disagree, but not me. But he's like the right wing's Ralph Nader. He has so distanced himself by uncompromising rheotic that his own political chances are nil. Not only can he never get elected, he can never have any political influence. Those who seriously effect change are the ones who are willing to play the game and compomise. This means shutting up and sitting down when things go bad in your own party, and only opposing as much as the party leadership will tolerate. If you pull a Jeffords and leave the party, you know you're influence days are over. I know for a fact that a solid half of the republicans in the Senate do not support the globalist agenda at all, but they can't act on that under the present circumstances.
I'm expecting, and I'm hoping, that you're going to be seeing a very different GOP after the fall of Bush/Cheney. My guess would be about like this. Figure the neocon influence was about zero w
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