Stuporman (2025)
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Saturday, August 8, 2026 16:08
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Well, this wokefest must be the worst movie version of Superman that I have seen - and also the worst version of Superman.
I had thought I'd seen all of the films since 1978 Christopher Reeves. But I guess I have not seen the Henry Cavill version - probably missed them to avoid Bafffleck.
I normally like James Gunn's work, ever since Slither with Nathan and Gregg Henry. But this version seems a flabby putz. Maybe his laziness is why he refuses to fight for Truth, Justice and The American Way. The timeline is revised such that Superman arrives on earth in mid-1990's.
Apparently, Libtards galore are whining that adopted children need to be classified as Aliens, and must obtain Visa cards to remain in USA.
Even the music score is the worst I can recall for a superduperman film.
I'm glad I waited until cheap seat Tuesday to avoid full fare.
The camera didn't show it, but I'm pretty sure Superman stepped on a bunch of ants and killed them - didn't seem to save a single one.
Sorry, some spoilers follow...
I was pleasantly surprised with the cast. Michaela Hoover is in this, and she was Nathan's 2nd fiancee. I'm not sure, I think she plays the blonde at Daily Planet. Apparently they met on GotG, along with other castmates Michael Rooker, Bradley Cooper. director Gunn, etc.
Uber hottie Angela Sarafyan plays his birth mom, Couldn't quite place Bradley Cooper as his birth dad, but Pruitt Taylor Vince plays Pa Kent.
Nicholas Hoult plays Lex Luthor, but acts like he's playing Spock. This version of Lex channels Obama, starting wars all over the globe for fun (Russia-Ukraine, Gaza/Iran/Hamas/Hexbollah/Houthi Terrorists - Israel, India - Pakistan, China vs everybody, etc), and gaslighting everybody, claiming everybody else is committing all of the crimes that he himself is committing.
I had the impression that Nathan's role and screen time was superlative and small. Far from it - he had a bunch of screen time, and he was the leader of the other superheroes.
This version of Lois Lane is a bit smarter than Superman, but that is a low bar with this dunce.
Hawkgirl turns out to be quite likable.
2 codas. One brief one just after the main cast graphics, before the full credit scroll. Or maybe it was just a transition clip, not sure.
Then another at the very end of the full end credit crawl. I was the only person left in the theater for that one.
Nathan and Alan are in neither coda.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Well, this wokefest must be the worst movie version of Superman that I have seen - and also the worst version of Superman.
That's pretty harsh criticism when it sounds like you haven't seen very much.
I never saw the Baffleck version or anything DC has put out in recent years except for (I think) Shazam 1.
I only saw 1/2 of the one with Kate Bosworth in her prime playing the most beautiful version of Superman's girlfriend on screen along with the great Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor. I feel asleep halfway through it and never bothered to watch the rest of it. (Which reminds me that I DID see about 1/2 of the first Gal Gadot Wonder Woman and I did the exact same thing and never finished that one either).
And I saw all 4 of the Reeve's Superman movies growing up, with several of the coming out after I was born, and the 4th one just being awful, let alone released far past its expiration date at that point anyhow.
For me, it's probably a tie between Superman IV and the one with Bosworth and Spacey that was the worst. I think it would be quite hard to beat either of those. Can't speak at all to the Baffleck ones.
On a scale of 1 to 10, how bad was the "wokeness" level in your mind? Maybe compare it to a few other ones we've discussed over the years back when the media was cheering that all on, back in the world from longer than 6 months ago that is now dead?
Since it sounds like the only Superman movies you ever watched were from the Reeve's era, and from a time I will agree they were putting out some of the best and most timeless music ever put to film, I won't take what you have against the current soundtrack seriously. I couldn't recite a single note of a single song of any other version of Superman I've had any contact with other than the Reeve's movies OST.
Outside of that, give some examples of what you absolutely hated about this movie. What made you give it such a bad review specifically? Is there anything in the movie that would have made you hate it of your own accord had you gone in blind and weren't looking for reasons to hate it, or after already having reasons pointed out to you beforehand to look for and justify your hatred for it?
I know all about the "Truth, Justice and the American Dream" change. My take on that is one of "after I was about 6 years old and figured out that Santa wasn't real, there wasn't really any reason I should have believed in that hoo rah rah line as long as I did in retrospect.
I love my country and I don't want to see her disrespected by people who come here and disrespect it. I want her protected. I want her respected. But I'm not going to pretend like "The American Way" is a brand that we all need to be proud of on an international stage in 2025 either. Neither of those concepts are mutually exclusive.
Maybe if we stayed the fuck out of everyone else's business and didn't spend the last 100 years reshaping the world to whosoever's liking is doing the shaping... or if after all that meddling we currently found ourselves living in a thriving and happy world right now we could say a laughable line like that out loud in public without feeling embarrassed doing so in 2025.
But that ain't the world we're living in.
Everybody makes mistakes, but nobody ever learns from them until we're able to stop pretending like "Our Side" never makes them and it's only the other side that does. Until the day we wake up and we're living in Utopia, "Truth, Justice and the American Way" is just a stupid fucking line of propaganda, and just the flip side of any woke bullshit that we've been arguing against for as long as we did.
Let's just say my only grotch going into this movie would be that Gunn put that line in there just to change it and piss You off. It was something that was needless and petty and just a shitt
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I actually don't want to post spoilers, which would ruin the film for those who really want to see it.
Let me think about it.
I haven't seen much Superman?
Christopher Reeve, Brandon Routh, Henry Cavill. Other than cartoons and TV, those encapsulate the actors playing Clark Kent since the 1960s. What other kind of nonsense are you gibbering about?
Gunn can get music done well. he did GotG.
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That's about all the nonsense.
That Smallville show was huge at the time. I didn't watch it, but my brothers and my old man did. I think they all watched the whole run.
Might want to count that one because I think way more people were watching that than any comic book show the WB or whatever they call themselves today have put out in a decade or more. I think a lot of people consider that their favorite version and put Reeves in 2nd place behind it.
Not saying they're right or wrong. I loved Gene Hackman's Luthor, but I could see why it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And you'd never get me to sit through 10 or so seasons of a 20+ year old WB show in 2025, so I'll never be able to give my piece on it.
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Quote:In Superman, Lex Luther's side (call it the evil side) killed only one good guy that I noticed, while Superman's side killed hundreds of Lex Luther's henchmen.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I know all about the "Truth, Justice and the American Dream" change. My take on that is one of "after I was about 6 years old and figured out that Santa wasn't real, there wasn't really any reason I should have believed in that hoo rah rah line as long as I did in retrospect.
I love my country and I don't want to see her disrespected by people who come here and disrespect it. I want her protected. I want her respected. But I'm not going to pretend like "The American Way" is a brand that we all need to be proud of on an international stage in 2025 either. Neither of those concepts are mutually exclusive.
Maybe if we stayed the fuck out of everyone else's business and didn't spend the last 100 years reshaping the world to whosoever's liking is doing the shaping... or if after all that meddling we currently found ourselves living in a thriving and happy world right now we could say a laughable line like that out loud in public without feeling embarrassed doing so in 2025.
But that ain't the world we're living in.
Everybody makes mistakes, but nobody ever learns from them until we're able to stop pretending like "Our Side" never makes them and it's only the other side that does. Until the day we wake up and we're living in Utopia, "Truth, Justice and the American Way" is just a stupid fucking line of propaganda, and just the flip side of any woke bullshit that we've been arguing against for as long as we did.
Let's just say my only grotch going into this movie would be that Gunn put that line in there just to change it and piss You off. It was something that was needless and petty and just a shitty thing to do to keep people arguing with each other about every fucking thing that doesn't even matter... like this movie.
Does that mean that Superman's side was evil because they killed hundreds compared to Lex Luther's side only killing one?
In World War II, the German Nazis, the Italian Fascists, and the Japanese Axis (call the three groups the evil side) killed only thousands of Americans (call them the good side), while the Americans killed millions and millions of the evil side.
Does that mean the Americans' side was more evil than the evil side because they killed many millions compared to the evil side only killing thousands?
I know the American military's answer: It is good to kill all evil people (and nuke their children in Nagasaki) while it is evil to kill even one person on the good side. Nearly everyone on the good side (which is NOT the same as the American military, but there is some overlap) is horrified about killing evil people (and their children), which is why evil is still very alive and with us always, rather than rotting and being eaten by vultures.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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“Woke” Superman Versus MAGA Whiners—Guess Who Won?
It wasn’t Fox News.
By David Corn | July 25, 2025
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/07/woke-superman-maga-fox-ne
ws-trump-james-gunn/
There’s nothing like a $125 million opening weekend to overcome MAGA whining, and Superman just walloped the bad-faith culture warriors of the right.
The conservative movement has long relished ginning up moral panics to distract from more important matters, such as its never-ending assault on low- and middle-income Americans and its obeisance to plutocrats. The right resorts to culture warfare over abortion, guns, gay rights, immigration, and religion to win over voters who might otherwise recoil at GOP efforts to increase the power and wealth of corporate America and 1-percenters. And Trump and Co. have followed this playbook, with their crusades against wokeness, transgender rights, and demographic diversity. So when James Gunn, the director of the new Superman, told the Times of London that “Superman is the story of America, an immigrant that came from other places and populated the country,” cranky voices on the right leaped at the chance to accuse Hollywood of making Superman “woke” to advance a left-wing agenda.
Before the film hit theaters, Fox News informed its viewers that the new Superman embraced “pro-immigrant themes.” And MAGA pundit Kellyanne Conway, appearing on the network, huffed, “We don’t go to the movie theater to be lectured to and to have somebody throw their ideology on to us.” Fox host Jesse Watters half-joked, “You know what it says on his cape? MS-13.” For Fox, immigrant equals gang member.
No surprise, the MAGA pundits had no idea what they were talking about. The only pro-immigrant theme in the movie is rather basic and hardly objectionable. Superman (David Corenswet), an alien who fervently wants to help humans, is propelled by an elementary motivation: kindness. He is so empathetic that when his nemesis Lex Luthor (Nicholas Hoult)—in this telling, an Erik Prince-like character who’s an arms dealer and tech genius who has invented the “pocket universe” (don’t ask me to explain)—unleashes a 30-story-tall dinosaur-like beast (think Godzilla) in the middle of Metropolis, Superman insists on neutralizing, not killing, the monster so it can be taken to a sanctuary to be studied. Other superheroes helping him just want to blast it to smithereens.
There are certainly reflections of present-day crises in the movie. The film’s main tale is Luthor’s unrelenting attempt to destroy Superman, who stands in the way of Luthor’s diabolical schemes. One piece of Luthor’s plan is to delegitimize Superman, and he does this with the accusation that Superman is an untrustworthy alien who has a secret agenda to take over the Earth and claim as many wives as is needed to restore the Kryptonian race that perished on his home planet. In other words, this immigrant is an existential threat and a sex fiend. Luthor’s effort to demonize Superman does initially turn public opinion against the Man of Steel, showing how easy it is to other-ize and vilify a migrant.
The other callback to the real world is a burgeoning war between two fictitious nations, Boravia, an ally of the United States, and Jarhanpur, its neighbor. At the start of the film, Superman intervenes to prevent Boravia, which is being armed by Luthor’s transnational corporation, from invading Jarhanpur. But this leads to a superhuman created by Luthor defeating Superman in battle. Through the rest of the movie, the prospect of war looms, with Boravia’s high-tech army poised to slaughter the civilians of Jarhanpur at the border. It’s laser-guided weaponry versus pitchforks. And it’s nearly impossible not to think of the ongoing war in Gaza. Reporter Lois Lane (Rachel Brosnahan), Superman’s gal pal, tells him that his unilateral interference in the Boravia-Jarhanpur conflict raises questions of politics and morality. But Superman sees it more simply: What could be more important than preventing the bloodshed of war?
Gunn has pointed out that he
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Shut up, faggot.
I've been posting in support of this movie the whole time. Nobody reads your clickbait bullshit anymore other than retards like you with too much time on your hands.
You've lost the culture war. You've lost everything. Nobody listens to anything you have to say on any topic.
All is as it should be again.
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It is almost funny to see motherJones gaslighting us, yet again, for the umpteenth time, even now that their lies are unraveling.
Quote:Luthor is an Obama-like character, constantly gaslighting the masses, and starting wars everywhere across the globe - while projecting his actual crimes onto his innocent opponents. So here motherjones gaslights us by claiming the Evil Barack Hussein Obama is really a private businessman.
Originally posted:
“Woke” Superman Versus MAGA Whiners—Guess Who Won?
It wasn’t Fox News.
By David Corn | July 25, 2025
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/07/woke-superman-maga-fox-ne
ws-trump-james-gunn/
... Lex Luthor (Nicholas Hoult)—in this telling, an Erik Prince-like character who’s an arms dealer ...
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good guy triumph over a villain who bears a resemblance to
And finally, motherjones tries to co-opt Superman by gaslighting any dunce gullible enough to absorb their woke pablum, that The United States Constitution was founded upon the woke ideals of unmerited grift (DEI and CRT), rampant Illegal Alien Invasion (Open, Unregulated Borders), unchecked Anti-Semitism, and unfettered Election Theft and Fraud:
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By the way, Superman, who was created by Jerry Siegel and Jospeh Shuster, each the son of Jewish immigrants, has always been woke:
Quote:Sure, The Constutution was constructed to support the American Way of growing melting pot population of legal immigrants, merit-based endeavor and fruition, Freedom of Any Religion, and a government of, for, and by The People, just like the original Superman endorsed.
But, of course, the new Woke Superman is against The American Way. Maybe because he arrived when Clinton was in The White House, so The American Way is unrecognizable to him.
Is this how all Libtard Fake News Media are coping with their web of lies collapsing? Just double down on gaslighting, hope the masses are gullible?
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How about just relax and remember that Superman is a mid superhero character with another mid-tier reboot that nobody needed in a genre that's basically on its way out like the Western and not worry so much about what little grotches you have against it because FOX News told you to have a problem with it.
You post shit like this and you make smarmy little cunts like Ted feel good and justified to continue on with their bad behavior.
You never even answered the question why you think it's woke. You bring no specifics.
Sounds to me like you're just complaining that it wasn't a direct word-for-word remake of the original movie. If the original movie is what you want to see, go watch the original superior movie.
At the end of the day, you appear to be the one who chooses to watch every movie under the sun that Hollywood puts out. I don't know why you do that to yourself, and I especially don't understand it when you're spending money in the theater to see mid-tier reboots and remakes of stuff you already know was great the first time around and you already know is going to be disappointing when compared to the original release.
If people stop paying to see reboots and remakes of good movies, they'll stop trying to make them.
In a perfect world, maybe they start making reboots and remakes of BAD movies. Movies that had potential but for one reason or another were FUBARed.
I think we can all get behind that idea.
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Quote:The New York Times came to the same conclusion as FOX News:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
How about just relax and remember that Superman is a mid superhero character . . . and not worry so much about what little grotches you have against it because FOX News told you to have a problem with it.
Opinion | ‘Superman’ Is MAGA Kryptonite
By David French | July 17, 2025
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/17/opinion/superman-adoption-maga-kind
ness.html
I’ve grown to dislike the word “assimilation.” When we talk about immigration, the better word is “adoption,” and it took a superhero movie to help me understand why.
That movie is “Superman.” Like virtually everything else in America, “Superman” got caught up in the culture war. In the days before the movie’s release, its director, James Gunn, warned that not everyone would love his film.
“I mean, Superman is the story of America,” Gunn told a British newspaper. “An immigrant that came from other places and populated the country, but for me it is mostly a story that says basic human kindness is a value and is something we have lost.”
Let’s pause for a moment.
From the beginning, the Superman story has been a story of an interstellar immigrant who becomes so fundamentally decent and courageous that he is the fictional ideal of “truth, justice and the American way.” So when Gunn says that his story is about “basic human kindness,” the first thought I had was, “Yeah, sounds like he made a Superman movie.”
Cue the outrage on the right. In a segment on Fox News, the chyron read “Superwoke.” Jesse Watters, a Fox News host, joked that Superman was going to wear an MS-13 cape. Another Fox News host, Greg Gutfeld, said that Gunn was trying to build “a moat of woke, enlightened opinion around him.”
(When it comes to MAGA bodies of water, I think I prefer “moat of woke” to “Gulf of America.”)
A popular X account called End Wokeness, which has 3.7 million followers, posted a headline with part of Gunn’s quote about immigration and kindness and wrote, “Hollywood literally never learns.”
What should Hollywood learn? That kindness and decency are for suckers and the best place for Superman isn’t with his family in Kansas or in his Fortress of Solitude but rather behind a fence, trapped in Alligator Alcatraz?
I saw the movie on opening night. I have a longstanding tradition: I see every new superhero movie as soon as I can, on the biggest screen that I can. I enjoyed every second of it. It was funny, it was fun, and it absolutely celebrated decency and kindness. But as the credits rolled, I had a single dominant thought: “Superman” is a movie about adoption, and if adoption is woke, then consider me woke.
I’m going to share spoilers, so you might want to save this newsletter and read it after you watch the movie, but one of the pivotal revelations of the movie is that Superman learns that he was sent to Earth not to serve humanity but to rule over us all and to preserve the Kryptonian race by forming a harem of human women.
In most versions of the Superman story, including the 1978 Christopher Reeve “Superman” and the 2013 Zack Snyder version, “Man of Steel,” the titular character is sent from the dying planet Krypton explicitly to help and protect us. Superman’s parents are good and decent people who love their son.
That’s what you believe at the start of this movie as well. To calm him in times of crisis, Superman watches a partial video clip salvaged from the wreck of his spacecraft that seems to depict his parents as kind beings who direct him to serve the people of Earth. But the movie’s villain, Lex Luthor, and his allies recover the rest of the footage — in which Superman’s parents direct him to conquer Earth — and share it with the rest of the world.
All at once, he loses his sense of self. A mob gathers in Metropolis, and the same people he’s loved and served now scream for him to go. So he flies away, back home to Kansas, to his adopted family.
In many versions of the Superman story, his earthly father dies
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