Superman reboot
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Monday, August 4, 2025 00:43
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Originally posted by Brenda:
SIX, no fighting but you do know how old I am?. S'alright, I still say split for leaving somewhere.
I've learned over the years never to say how old I think a lady is, even when invited to take a guess. TRAP!
Yeah... I know we're around the same age and you're a few years older than me. Probably around my old babysitter's age if I had to guess. I didn't mean it that way, as if you were just a kid who didn't know any better.
It's back along the lines of the no cell phone thing, and the simpler way that you choose to enjoy your music and why it means more to you than it does for most of the rest of us who just plunged into the whole digital abundance world to the point where there's too much of everything and it all kind of lost its value.
We are all way too wrapped up in politics. Me included. Can't deny that, even though I think not having a smart phone at least helps. Not so much these days when I'm home so much, but once I get back out there and I'm doing things and I don't suffer from Idle Hands Syndrome on the regular.
I honestly believe you don't really know much about what Pedro has to say in "real life", whether it be interviews or supposed candid moments. And I love that for you. I loved that we never knew what Gene Hackman's politics were. But Gene did us that solid himself and never talked politics in public. Hardly anyone famous can help themselves today, and Pedro is fairly strongly in the opposite direction of Gene Hackman when it comes to keeping his mouth shut and staying out of everyone's business. There have been a lot worse. He's no Rachel Zeigler, but it ain't great.
So I wasn't joking or even trying to manipulate or trick you into looking for things that he's said and his... eccentricities. You really shouldn't. And I hope you don't. You're one of the few people I know who I believe have that restraint, and that will allow you to continue to separate the artist from the person. Which is what I think that they all need to start doing again if they ever want to have a Hollywood again like we knew it. They used to be what we imagined them to be. They were bigger than life. Now they're mostly just A-holes with dumb opinions like the rest of us.
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Someone on here once said they liked Robert Redford and I don't. Paul Newman, I did like.
I'd seen Redford in some roles I liked growing up. I'm to young to have been around to hear him talk politics when he was really prominent in his youth, though I'm sure he did. I think a lot less of them did back then, but he just seems to be the type... one of the ones who started it all. I've seen some of his takes in his old age and I think they're mostly better off left in his own head too.
Don't know anything about Paul Newman's Politics and I love the guy. One of my favorite actors. I'm noticing a pattern developing here...
It's a bad thing when famous people get so hyper political and then choose sides like this. Because whether they know it or not, they inadvertently pit normal folk like us against each other... by the millions too. They get talked about all the time because they are people that a good majority of us SEE all the time, so they're something to talk about. It was always that way, but now it's almost impossible not to have politics come up in the conversation too since so many of them have so much politically charged baggage that come along with liking and or disliking them.
That's why I appreciate ya, Brenda.
You got a Critical Thinking Fountain going on up in that brain of yours and you put up with me and look past my bullshit when it's directed at several others here. Cause you get people. Probably why you're more or less a loner type would be my guess too. Or that could just be me projecting. If you jus
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Did you see it yet?
Not yet.
Hoping to see How to train your dragon tomottow.
More international numbers posted for Superman…still no increase in China’s numbers.
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Quote:Oops! I mistakenly called him Mr. Fantastic. He is Mr. Terrific. I'm so sorry to have confused you by mentioning a character from another movie. I repeat: Edi Gathegi is Mr. Terrific.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
And Mr Fantastic kills Trumptards to this catchy tune:
Why do you have to turn everything into Left vs Right,
from reviews I seen this movie isnt about Right vs Left or Leftwing vs Rightwing guys
Mr Fantastic in Fantastic Four is next week, its not out yet unless you got some pre production thing leaked on the web
Do you mean the Mr Superdog or Mr Lantern? , Metamorpho or Mr Ultraman Cloned or 'Mr Terrific' instead of Mr Fantastic, I hope youre posting rubbish
but if not thanks for spoiling the movie, idiot
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1346230/
This isn't confusing. Is it? Not a spoiler, either:
James Gunn Explains Jor-El's Message In Superman
July 19, 2025
https://screenrant.com/superman-james-gunn-jor-el-message-real-confirm
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The message has remained a point of contention among audiences, some of whom are convinced that Lex altered the message. In response, Gunn addressed the idea in an appearance on Happy Sad Confused with Josh Horowitz. He simply asked: "How can someone not think it's real?"
Gunn added that the test screening audiences did question this twist's legitimacy as well, suggesting it could have been doctored with artificial intelligence. He explained that the film puts a lot of effort into confirming the footage is real:
"In the movie [...] Mr. Terrific says, 'I know those computer forensics guys. There's no way.' That's Mr. Terrific. Smart as Lex Luthor. Then I have my Secretary of Defense say, 'I think whatever you think about Luthor, but it's real.' And then the clincher is that Gurkos and Lex are walking together, right? And you know, Gurkos says, 'Ah, you doctored the message. This is great.' And Lex says, 'It's not a doctored message. It's real.' "
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
SIX, no fighting but you do know how old I am?
I've learned over the years never to say how old I think a lady is, even when invited to take a guess. TRAP!
Yeah... I know we're around the same age and you're a few years older than me. Probably around my old babysitter's age if I had to guess. I didn't mean it that way, as if you were just a kid who didn't know any better.
It's back along the lines of the no cell phone thing, and the simpler way that you choose to enjoy your music and why it means more to you than it does for most of the rest of us who just plunged into the whole digital abundance world to the point where there's too much of everything and it all kind of lost its value.
We are all way too wrapped up in politics. Me included. Can't deny that, even though I think not having a smart phone at least helps. Not so much these days when I'm home so much, but once I get back out there and I'm doing things and I don't suffer from Idle Hands Syndrome on the regular.
I honestly believe you don't really know much about what Pedro has to say in "real life", whether it be interviews or supposed candid moments. And I love that for you. I loved that we never knew what Gene Hackman's politics were. But Gene did us that solid himself and never talked politics in public. Hardly anyone famous can help themselves today, and Pedro is fairly strongly in the opposite direction of Gene Hackman when it comes to keeping his mouth shut and staying out of everyone's business. There have been a lot worse. He's no Rachel Zeigler, but it ain't great.
So I wasn't joking or even trying to manipulate or trick you into looking for things that he's said and his... eccentricities. You really shouldn't. And I hope you don't. You're one of the few people I know who I believe have that restraint, and that will allow you to continue to separate the artist from the person. Which is what I think that they all need to start doing again if they ever want to have a Hollywood again like we knew it. They used to be what we imagined them to be. They were bigger than life. Now they're mostly just A-holes with dumb opinions like the rest of us.Quote:
Someone on here once said they liked Robert Redford and I don't. Paul Newman, I did like.
I'd seen Redford in some roles I liked growing up. I'm to young to have been around to hear him talk politics when he was really prominent in his youth, though I'm sure he did. I think a lot less of them did back then, but he just seems to be the type... one of the ones who started it all. I've seen some of his takes in his old age and I think they're mostly better off left in his own head too.
Don't know anything about Paul Newman's Politics and I love the guy. One of my favorite actors. I'm noticing a pattern developing here...
It's a bad thing when famous people get so hyper political and then choose sides like this. Because whether they know it or not, they inadvertently pit normal folk like us against each other... by the millions too. They get talked about all the time because they are people that a good majority of us SEE all the time, so they're something to talk about. It was always that way, but now it's almost impossible not to have politics come up in the conversation too since so many of them have so much politically charged baggage that come along with liking and or disliking them.
That's why I appreciate ya, Brenda.
You got a Critical Thinking Fountain going on up in that brain of yours and you put up with me and look past my bullshit when it's directed at several others here. Cause you get people. Probably why you're more or less a loner type would be my guess too. O
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Originally posted by Brenda:
That is a trap for men to fall in to and for women to use.
Oh, I know that.
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Yeah, simpler times to be sure without all the digital.
Yeah. But it was so easy to fall into all those digital traps, especially when I was the age that I was, and suddenly this lower-middle-class kid who never had money to buy music albums was the one who had all the brand new music on disc in is car and on a digital jukebox on his PC connected to his home stereo system at his first apartment. A big part of me being a central orbit for Party Central growing up was my tech knowledge, and my everyday access to fairly high speed internet and Napster along with a boss who didn't care what I was doing with my free time as long as I kept performing for him as I did. Non-stop, new, commercial free music always bumping without needing to pay a DJ or even think about it. Good times...
But the problem was, it was all made so easy that I would NEVER go back to having a record or CD player and playing albums one at a time like we used to. I'd have zero patience for it by now. Living this way changes you for sure, even though most people never talk about it or probably never even really think about it.
In this case, my relationship with music was kind of a sad casualty. It's not dead, but it had been injured badly decades ago and never healed right. I still love music and there are still new songs that come out that really grab me for a short while, but even my favorite songs have become little more than elevator music at this point, with an ever increasing more of them being moved to the list of songs that I could go the rest of my life never hearing again and I'd be happy about it.
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I try not to be too wrapped up in politics coming from either side of the line. I will admit that the ladies in my mah jong group, some not all will get on my nerves and I have corrected them. And I have been hauled on to the carpet by the head lady about it. But it just grates. So, I do what I do.
Yeah... We gotta be careful. I feel that I need to especially be careful these days. I've already had to try to dance around things and stay out of politics in order not to lose family members who are on the Left and don't stop talking about politics all the time for years. But now that I've more or less gotten what I wanted, I find that I have to do the same thing now with people who I've been in strong alignment with for a long time too. It was easier to navigate the other side because they all thought the same things all the time, so you knew where the landmines are. Trying to dance around the minefield on the right side of the equation takes a lot more thought and I think at this point it's probably best that I don't talk to anybody in Real Life about politics, period.
Just because my guy won this time, doesn't mean I'm going to agree with 100% of everything he does. At this point, I consider myself the only person I know in real life or online who is actually going to be directly and negatively impacted by Politics in a life changing way, despite everyone always going on about it day in and day out for over a decade.
Bottom line is with my current health situation, when that Big Beautiful Bill passed, they will now essentially be ordering the death penalty against me in December of next year if I refuse to go back to work. People can spin that however they want and put that blame on me if they want, but these are just the facts. If I refuse to go back to work during or before December of next year, they will strip me of the health insurance that is paying for what I need to live and I will die without it.
But despite this, I believe a lot of good is coming from how last election went and I'm able to overlook this and hold out and hope that things actually are going to get better for Americans, and
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
That is a trap for men to fall in to and for women to use.
Oh, I know that.Quote:
Yeah, simpler times to be sure without all the digital.
Yeah. But it was so easy to fall into all those digital traps, especially when I was the age that I was, and suddenly this lower-middle-class kid who never had money to buy music albums was the one who had all the brand new music on disc in is car and on a digital jukebox on his PC connected to his home stereo system at his first apartment. A big part of me being a central orbit for Party Central growing up was my tech knowledge, and my everyday access to fairly high speed internet and Napster along with a boss who didn't care what I was doing with my free time as long as I kept performing for him as I did. Non-stop, new, commercial free music always bumping without needing to pay a DJ or even think about it. Good times...
But the problem was, it was all made so easy that I would NEVER go back to having a record or CD player and playing albums one at a time like we used to. I'd have zero patience for it by now. Living this way changes you for sure, even though most people never talk about it or probably never even really think about it.
In this case, my relationship with music was kind of a sad casualty. It's not dead, but it had been injured badly decades ago and never healed right. I still love music and there are still new songs that come out that really grab me for a short while, but even my favorite songs have become little more than elevator music at this point, with an ever increasing more of them being moved to the list of songs that I could go the rest of my life never hearing again and I'd be happy about it.Quote:
I try not to be too wrapped up in politics coming from either side of the line. I will admit that the ladies in my mah jong group, some not all will get on my nerves and I have corrected them. And I have been hauled on to the carpet by the head lady about it. But it just grates. So, I do what I do.
Yeah... We gotta be careful. I feel that I need to especially be careful these days. I've already had to try to dance around things and stay out of politics in order not to lose family members who are on the Left and don't stop talking about politics all the time for years. But now that I've more or less gotten what I wanted, I find that I have to do the same thing now with people who I've been in strong alignment with for a long time too. It was easier to navigate the other side because they all thought the same things all the time, so you knew where the landmines are. Trying to dance around the minefield on the right side of the equation takes a lot more thought and I think at this point it's probably best that I don't talk to anybody in Real Life about politics, period.
Just because my guy won this time, doesn't mean I'm going to agree with 100% of everything he does. At this point, I consider myself the only person I know in real life or online who is actually going to be directly and negatively impacted by Politics in a life changing way, despite everyone always going on about it day in and day out for over a decade.
Bottom line is with my current health situation, when that Big Beautiful Bill passed, they will now essentially be ordering the death penalty against me in December of next year if I refuse to go back to work. People can spin that however they want and put that blame on me if they want, but these are just the facts. If I refuse to go back to work during or before December of next year, they will strip me of the health insurance that is paying for what I need to live and I will die without it.
But despite this, I believe a lot of good is coming from how last election went and I'm able to overlook this and hold out and hope that things actuaNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
MAGA’s tantrum over “woke” Superman is nastier than their usual whining
Lying about the character's legacy is part of the larger right-wing project to rewrite history
By Amanda Marcotte | July 21, 2025 6:45AM (EDT)
https://www.salon.com/2025/07/21/magas-tantrum-over-woke-superman-is-n
astier-than-their-usual-whining/
Every time there’s a pop cultural phenomenon — a blockbuster movie, a chart-topping single, a hot new fashion trend — conservative media and MAGA influencers rush to denounce it as anti-American, anti-family or even demonic.
The reasons right-wing pundits engage in this are transparent. The biggest is simple attention economics. Glomming onto popular topics is a good way to attract new audiences, especially those who may not be that political, and lure them into engaging with reactionary content. It also helps feed the paranoia that fuels the right, by propping up the narrative that all of pop culture is out to destroy them and their way of life. The ultimate goal is to persuade people to reject movies, music, TV and other cultural artifacts as “woke” or “Satanic,” and turn exclusively to MAGA influencers for their entertainment needs. Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire even has a movie studio where they turn out subpar content that only has an audience because they’ve convinced right-wingers to eschew quality films as too “liberal.”
My initial reaction when I saw right-wing media conduct its all-too-predictable tantrum over the new “Superman” movie was that it’s just more of the same: Claim it’s “woke” propaganda, work the audience into a tizzy of boycott threats and reap the reward of alienating their base further from the rest of society so that the MAGA cult is all they have left. Which, to be fair, is bad enough. But the actual content of the complaints made this whole exercise even more sinister. The attacks on “Superman” are part of a larger effort by the right to completely rewrite history, so they can pretend that being a patriotic American means embracing authoritarian values.
The furor, for those lucky enough to have missed it, had nothing to do with the actual plot of the movie, which was about Clark Kent learning to love his poorly-behaved dog Krypto. (There was also some stuff about fighting Lex Luthor and saving the world, but let’s face it, the dog made the movie.) The MAGA talking heads are big mad that director James Gunn said that Superman is an immigrant. “Superman is the story of America,” Gunn told The Times of London. “An immigrant that came from other places and populated the country.” They were also furious that Gunn said Superman stands for “human kindness.”
Immigrants and kindness are both canceled in Donald Trump’s America, so the right was outraged. Jesse Watters of Fox News “joked” that Superman should have “MS-13” on his cape. Co-host Kellyanne Conway agreed, wondering if the movie would fail on the assumption that American audiences also hate kindness and immigrants. Dean Cain, who played Superman on TV before finding a job better suited to his acting talents — right-wing punditry — was also mad. “How woke is Hollywood going to make this character?” I don’t remember Cain’s version of Superman, so maybe he did go around kicking dogs and sexually harassing women like a proper MAGA superhero. But honestly, I doubt the studio would have allowed that.
This is all very dumb, but what was striking was how brazenly dishonest it was. If there is one thing that everybody knows about Superman, it’s that he’s an alien who was smuggled to Earth. Being a refugee is as central to the character as the cheek dimples and the broad chest. It would be one thing if the Fox hosts were disputing the values of the movie. In the age of Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi “Puppy Killer” Noem, we get that “be nice to dogs” is an ideology that MAGA loathes. No, what makes this next-level evil is they were denying a centerpiece of the character’s history as well-known as the date of Independence Day and the colors of the American flag.
Cain (the ex-Superman on TV) tri
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Originally posted by second:
MAGA’s tantrum over “woke” Superman is nastier than their usual whining
Zero truth to this, whatsoever.
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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Quote:6ix, you spent several minutes whining about your health, your parents, and preferring to die rather than work. And your fear of offending relatives who think Trump is a lying sack of shit. Do you realize you are a whiner?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
MAGA’s tantrum over “woke” Superman is nastier than their usual whining
Zero truth to this, whatsoever.
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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You're an idiot. Worry about your own party and stop crying about everything everyday.
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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