IRAN: Trump's war?

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SECOND

Tuesday, June 24, 2025 3:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why should I care what Mark Cuban ... whoever he is ... says?

Mark Cuban has never been right about anything, so the answer is that you shouldn't.

Also, Bryan Taylor Cohen who was interviewing him is the USAid funded cunt that runs the clickbait farm Midas Touch that Ted parrots here everyday, which is also wrong about everything it's ever said.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

I don't tell Trumptards this often enough, but will in this case. You are out of your mind, 6ix. Absolutely crazy.

And for the rest of the people who voted for Trump because they think America is going in the wrong direction: Look at yourself and your daily stupid decisions. Those are what is wrong. Fix your mental problems. You are not sane. America is fine. You are NOT fine. You are NOT living correctly. I know, I know that all Trumptards think freedom means doing what they want and getting angry when things don't go the way they prefer. I wish Trumptards would gain a little sanity and realize that doing whatever weird, perverted, evil, sick thing bubbling up into their consciousness is NOT freedom. It is mental illness.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SECOND

Tuesday, June 24, 2025 3:59 PM

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I wish Trumptards would gain a little sanity and realize that doing whatever weird, perverted, evil, sick thing bubbling up into their consciousness is NOT freedom. It is mental illness.

Strange ideas bubbling in Trump's head are driving him to start dangerous and wasteful military actions:

3 ways Americans could pay for Trump’s war with Iran

The conflict could take a toll in both blood and money.

By Eric Levitz | Jun 23, 2025, 3:35 PM CDT

https://www.vox.com/politics/417546/us-iran-war-economy-qatar-attack-a
merican-troops

President Donald Trump has framed his strikes on Iran as a costless triumph. The president is not asking Americans to accept sacrifices in service of destroying the Iranian nuclear program — only to applaud his already successful destruction of it.

“Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated,” Trump declared Saturday night. “Iran, the bully of the Middle East, must now make peace. If they do not, future attacks will be far greater and a lot easier.”

It’s possible that Trump’s war will unwind as advertised. The Iranian regime finds itself in a state of profound weakness. Israel has gutted its air defenses and flies largely unharried through its skies. Iran’s nuclear facilities are badly damaged, while many of its top atomic scientists and military leaders lie dead. Its most fearsome partner militias — Hezbollah and Hamas — are badly degraded. Its longtime allies in Damascus have been deposed. Its friends in Moscow seem to have too much on their own plates to lend much of a hand.

From this precarious position, the Iranian leadership might conclude that it can ill afford an escalating conflict with the world’s greatest military power. Perhaps, it will follow the same basic playbook it did following Trump’s assassination of its military leader Qasem Soleimani in 2020: Back then, Iran responded with face-saving strikes on US military bases in Iraq — but ones that it heavily telegraphed, enabling American soldiers to take cover and retain their lives, which in turn allowed Trump to call things even and end the conflict. Iran’s strike on a US base in Qatar on Monday could be interpreted as fitting this mold: The US said that it had advanced warning of the strike and that there were no American casualties.

What’s more, it is even possible that the Iranian regime could conclude that its nuclear program is more trouble than it’s worth and sheepishly return to the bargaining table, now ready to accept more stringent restrictions on its freedom to enrich uranium or build ballistic missiles.

But such rosy outcomes are far from certain. And if things do not transpire as Trump hopes, his war could impose significant costs on the American people — in terms of money, blood, and nuclear security.

How Trump’s war on Iran could impact the economy

For Americans, the most widely felt consequences of Trump’s war with Iran would likely be economic. Oil prices have climbed by more than 12 percent since the end of May, when Israel began threatening to strike Iran’s nuclear facilities. An escalating US-Iran conflict could further elevate Americans’ energy costs.

The nightmare scenario here concerns the Strait of Hormuz, the world’s only waterway connecting the Persian Gulf with the open ocean. Each day, about 20 million barrels of oil — or about 20 percent of the world’s total supply — moves through the strait. Iran could plausibly choke off all shipping through the waterway if it wished to do so. And on Sunday, the Iranian Parliament reportedly approved such a course of action, although it remains up to the nation’s Supreme National Security Council to enact a blockade.

Were Iran to take that extraordinary measure, the price of oil could shoot up past $130 a barrel, according to industry analysts (as of this writing, a barrel is trading at $72). That would dramatically increase the costs of energy and transportation for US consumers. And sin

SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 24, 2025 6:39 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why should I care what Mark Cuban ... whoever he is ... says?

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Because Mark Cuban has direct experience with Trump, a good reputation, and solid judgment. Signym, you are playing a stupid game called: "Why should I care what the experts say when I, Signym, am so much more trustworthy?"

Ok, well ... why should I trust what YOU say about Mark Cuban? You lie about everything. Case in point:

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Signym, you are playing a stupid game called: "Why should I care what the experts say?

First of all, I was asking about Mark Cuban. I know nothing about him, and certainly don't know if he's an expert on anything.
And since I don't know anything about him, I can't, and don't, claim to know more than he does, or more than those nebulous "experts' you refer to. I was just asking why shoukd I believe him? So, you lied about me in your answer.
Since that part of your post is an obvious lie, why should I believe the rest of it?

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Except you are not worth trusting. Here is another expert you can claim knows far less than the brilliant Signym. The expert is Juan Cole.

Another person I know nothing about that you claim is an expert and against whom you claim I hold myself superior.

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Top Things You Still Think You Know About Iran that are Not True

By Juan Cole | 06/21/2025

https://www.juancole.com/2025/06/things-still-think.html

A revised version of an essay from a long time ago. It didn’t need much revision.

Belief: Iran is aggressive and has threatened to attack Israel, its neighbors or the US.

Reality: Iran has not launched an aggressive war in modern history (unlike the US or Israel), and its leaders have a doctrine of “no first strike.” This is true of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, as well as of Revolutionary Guards commanders.

Belief: Iran is a militarized society bristling with dangerous weapons and a growing threat to world peace.

Reality: Iran’s military budget in recent years has expanded from $10 billion a year around $15 billion annually, making it 25th in the world for such expenditures and putting it in the same range as Singapore and Uruguay. Algeria and Turkiye spend more, and Israel spends twice as much. Even if the war causes Iran to double its spending, it would still only match the United Arab Emirates and Israel, and would not reach the level of Saudi Arabia. Moreover, Iran is a country of 92 million, so that its per capita spending on defense is tiny compared to some of these others, since they are much smaller countries with regard to population.

Belief: Iran has threatened to attack Israel militarily and to “wipe it off the map.”

Reality: Iran’s leaders have often warned Israel that an attack would be met with a strong response. No Iranian leader in the executive had threatened a first-strike, aggressive act of war on Israel, since this would contradict the doctrine of ‘no first strike’ to which the country has adhered.

Belief: But didn’t President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (in office 2005-2013) threaten to ‘wipe Israel off the map?’

Reality: President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad did quote Ayatollah Khomeini (d. 1989) to the effect that “this Occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time” (in rezhim-e eshghalgar-i Qods bayad as safheh-e ruzgar mahv shavad). This was not a pledge to roll tanks and invade or to launch missiles, however. It is the expression of a hope that the regime will collapse, just as the Soviet Union did. It is not a threat to kill anyone at all.

Belief: But don't Iranians shout "death to Israel"?
Reality: It's one thing to want the collapse of a nation state ("Israel"), it's another to want to kill its inhabitants. Iran holds the formation of the State of Israel illegal and doesn't officially recognise it, since Britain stole the land from people already living there to give to Zionist Jews. And Zionists have kept on ste

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, June 24, 2025 7:21 PM

he wants it over

'They don't know what the f**k they're doing': Trump lashes out at Israel and Iran

'Don't know what the f**k they're doing': Trump fumes after Israel, Iran violate ceasefire

THG

Tuesday, June 24, 2025 10:35 PM

I have no intention of reposting Signyms rant about Mark Cubin. I will however make a brief comment about it.

Her rant is her claiming ignorance about Cubin. This way she doesn’t have to deal with anything SECOND posted about what he said about Trump. So, did she say she did any searches to see if she could learn about Cubin; nope.

She did what she always does. Dismiss facts by feigning ignorance. Even though she doesn’t realize that by doing so, she is showing her ignorance and not making a concise honest rebuttal. Instead she goes off on a subjective rant.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 24, 2025 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
I have no intention of reposting Signyms rant about Mark Cubin. I will however make a brief comment about it.

Her rant is her claiming ignorance about Cubin. This way she doesn’t have to deal with anything SECOND posted about what he said about Trump. So, did she say she did any searches to see if she could learn about Cubin; nope.

She did what she always does. Dismiss facts by feigning ignorance. Even though she doesn’t realize that by doing so, she is showing her ignorance and not making a concise honest rebuttal. Instead she goes off on a subjective rant.

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His name is Mark Cuban, you dumb fuck.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

THG

Tuesday, June 24, 2025 11:29 PM

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THUGR:
Jesus stated that His mission on earth was not to destroy Judaism or replace the Jewish people. His mission was to take what had been promised for so long and bring it to fruition through the promises given to Israel.

There is no direct mention of "Palestinians" in the Bible.

SIGNY
Where's that Bible quote?
Cause everything I know about the New Testament says that Jesus' kingdom is not earthly.

THGR: Jesus's kingdom is not earthly. But the kingdom or the Jews is.

Matthew 15:24 is a verse from the Bible where Jesus says, "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." This indicates that His mission was primarily directed towards the Jewish people

Ok, but WHAT was his mission?

Not to establish an earthly Jewish kingdom. He said so himself!
The Jews of that day expected he'd free them from the Romans! Rebuild the Temple! Establish a kingdom of Jews!

Jesus, that way, was SUCH disappointment to them. So much for being THE Messiah! That's why the Jews don't accept him as their Messiah. You think Jesus is meaningful to Jews? Jews don't.

Capisce?

Yeah, I capisce. You’re trying to flip the subject onto what was Christs’ mission, when the original point was that the Jews were living in Isreal and Judea long before the Palestinians according to the bible. That’s because there were no Palestinians at that time.

“While the word "Palestine" does not appear in the Bible in its current form, there are several passages that refer to a region known as "Philistia." Philistia was a coastal region located in what is now southern Israel and the Gaza Strip and was home to a people known as the Philistines.” internet

Southern Israel was mostly desert which the Jews purchased in the forties with money proved by a global assistance fund. And the Jews asked the Palestinians to stay during the 67 wars but most left because Arab leaders in Jordan, Syria and others told them to get out.

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“My grandfather got an order to evacuate... Not by the Jews – by the Arab leaders.”

THG

Tuesday, June 24, 2025 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:
I have no intention of reposting Signyms rant about Mark Cubin. I will however make a brief comment about it.

Her rant is her claiming ignorance about Cubin. This way she doesn’t have to deal with anything SECOND posted about what he said about Trump. So, did she say she did any searches to see if she could learn about Cubin; nope.

She did what she always does. Dismiss facts by feigning ignorance. Even though she doesn’t realize that by doing so, she is showing her ignorance and not making a concise honest rebuttal. Instead she goes off on a subjective rant.

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His name is Mark Cuban, you dumb fuck.

Oh look, I misspelled a word and Gilligan found it. Thanks Gilligan, that's worth one pat on the head, good boy.

T

SIGNYM

Wednesday, June 25, 2025 1:00 AM

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Her rant is her claiming ignorance about Cubin. This way she doesn’t have to deal with anything SECOND posted about what he said about Trump. So, did she say she did any searches to see if she could learn about Cubin; nope.

From searches I learned that Mark Cuban owns a sports team and something else related to sports. That he's an "investor". But other than telling me that he's rich, which I already deduced, I still don't know much about him.

What's his history?

How did he get to know Trump?

What are his biases?

It would take a lot of reading his opinions/ analyses to understand his POV, and knowing his hx with Trump to know if he had enough business and personal dealing with Trump to form a knowledgable opinion.

You see, THGR, I don't swallow every bit of chum that someone throws in the water, like you do.

BTW, my long post was in response to JUAN COLE'S (who???) article about Iran, not Mark Cuban.

Not much for scanning, are you?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

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SECOND

Wednesday, June 25, 2025 6:50 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Her rant is her claiming ignorance about Cubin. This way she doesn’t have to deal with anything SECOND posted about what he said about Trump. So, did she say she did any searches to see if she could learn about Cubin; nope.

From searches I learned that Mark Cuban owns a sports team and something else related to sports. That he's an "investor". But other than telling me that he's rich, which I already deduced, I still don't know much about him.

What's his history?

How did he get to know Trump?

What are his biases?

It would take a lot of reading his opinions/ analyses to understand his POV, and knowing his hx with Trump to know if he had enough business and personal dealing with Trump to form a knowledgable opinion.

You see, THGR, I don't swallow every bit of chum that someone throws in the water, like you do.

You overlooked Mark Cuban starting Cost Plus Drugs. Signym, try a little bit to understand what Cuban did: https://www.costplusdrugs.com/

Signym, I can tell you are trying very hard to convince yourself that Mark Cuban does not describe Trump truthfully. Mark Cuban said, "I've known Trump for 25 years... He is the most unethical, lacks character, dishonest person I've ever done business with... This is one of the few human beings on the planet that gets dumber in front of our faces every single day."

The BBC can verify that Mark Cuban accurately assesses Trump’s personality. Here is the story:
White House rejects intelligence assessment that strikes did not destroy Iran nuclear programme. The White House says the assessment is "flat-out wrong" and is "a clear attempt to demean" President Trump.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c20xel1e97gt

Trump is selling a false story about the success of his war with Iran. He sells lies because Trump is unethical. He does lack character. He is getting dumber in front of our faces every single day.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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