Punching somebody with a closed fist?
POSTED BY: raiftel
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Not to mention, if the nose breaks, you get the bonus points for instantly creating two black eyes. *shoulda seen the other guy* 
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Originally posted by Static:
That is why the best place to punch, when aiming at the head/face is square on the nose. Getting hit in the nose causes more immediate pain than anywhere else, and a square hit will also produce lots of blood, which panics your opponent.
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What Mal said is "but it is occasionally hi-larious" (which, I was just musing, shows what a flair he has for language).
I think the question is not closed fist vs. loose fist or a slap, but using your hand rather than a table leg or baseball bat or something like that--or just showing up for the meet early and having a sniper posted.
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4. Do not hold your fist parallel to the ground, like boxers do. Instead hit with a fist that is perpendicular to the ground. The reason for this is that a parallel fist means you are likely to hit with the second knuckles of the fingers, easily breaking your hand. A hit with a perpendicular fist is more likely to include first knuckles and therefore the support of your hand, wrist and arm.
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Originally posted by raiftel:
Not so much an episode query.
In the Train Job Mal says to the doctor something along the lines of "They say to never punch somebody with a closed fist, but on occassion it is damned amusing" (sorry for the brutalised quote)
Everybody is getting into how to properly hit someone if not with/or with a closed fist. With the thought of my patron saint (Jayne) in mind... the best way to hit someone is in the neck from 300 yards.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not screaming and yelling like everyone else in the car he was driving.
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Originally posted by ReaverMadness:
Everybody is getting into how to properly hit someone if not with/or with a closed fist. With the thought of my patron saint (Jayne) in mind... the best way to hit someone is in the neck from 300 yards.
When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not screaming and yelling like everyone else in the car he was driving.
Which brings me to my favorite little rule. . .
Never bring a knife to a gunfight. . .ALWAYS bring a gun to a fistfight.
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Originally posted by Knibblet:
It was a joke, raiftel. From beginning to end, a joke. Mal was making a funny.
The biggest part of that joke was lost on us the first time we saw "The Train Job," since we had not yet seen the two times Mal hit Simon with a closed fist in the original pilot.
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Originally posted by Static:
Which brings me to my favorite little rule. . .
Never bring a knife to a gunfight. . .ALWAYS bring a gun to a fistfight.
I'd bring a knife to a gunfight. I'd have a suitably large gun, too, but I'd still bring the knife.
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Originally posted by Static:
Getting hit in the nose causes more immediate pain than anywhere else, and a square hit will also produce lots of blood, which panics your opponent.
Oh such a lovely discussion!
A palm heel strike in the nose is nicer.
OK, well, not nice for the recipient, but it spares your knuckles and your nails, ladies.
Just sayin'
... then you can scratch their face with your nails, if you hung around to see if they passed out.
I think I'd run, but not until after I kicked the groin and maybe elbowed them in the throat, y'know for good measure. The butt end of a big stick is quite handy, same results, keeps some distance...
Oh, OK, back to my demure self...
Keeper of Jayne's goggles. 8)
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Around 15 yrs ago I was walking home from my friends house late at night when I was attacked by a group of drunken thugs. I tried to talk my way out of it but it became obvious I would have no alternative except to defend myself. The main thug charged at me I punched his head knocking him out cold. The other guys stepped back eyeing me warily as I started walking away.
About 20 mins later I guess when the adrenaline wore off I noticed a great deal of pain and swelling in my hand. It turns out I completely snapped the 4th metacarpel requiring surgery and a metal plate... So Mals statement about how you should never punch a man with a closed fist holds special meaning to me.
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Many many years ago, while I was taking a style of Japanese martial art, I was taught a simple mnemonic key on how to strike - hard to soft, soft to hard.
You don't use a hard fist to strike a hard target, like your opponent's jaw or elbow. That's a good way to break the tiny bones in the hand. Instead, you use the heel of your palm, or a "chop" with the fleshy part of the side of your hand. A closed fist works better on more forgiving surfaces like the abdomen, ribs, and muscle tissue.
And I don't know about the biology or the physics, but we were taught to make a fist at about a 30 degree angle. To see the angle, make a "thumbs up" sign with your arm extended, tuck your thumb over the end knuckles of your index and second fingers, and rotate your fist about 30 degrees, top inward. That provides a "natural" striking angle, and good support for the wrist so you don't sprain it.
Of course there are many schools and theories, but I'd agree the NOT striking someone's face with a closed fist is very good advice. But could be, depending on the outcome, hilarious.
MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."
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