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The Conservative vision for America: cut infrastructure, let's see what happens...

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THG
Saturday, January 11, 2025 9:15 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
People in Wisconsin were alarmed when the Leo Frigo Memorial Bridge began to sag. This has now forced the shutdown of the I-43 corridor along Green Bay, and the rerouting of the 40,000 vehicles it carried daily. This bridge failure will now sap billions out of the Wisconsin economy:
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Gov. Scott Walker vowed that the Leo Frigo Memorial Bridge, which carries Interstate 43 over the Fox River on the north side of Green Bay, will be reopened. But officials Wednesday acknowledged that they have no idea how long it will take to diagnose and fix the problem.

“It could be months. It could be a year,” Kim Rudat, the spokesman for the Wisconsin Department of Transportation’s northeast region. The closure, he said, will likely last “for quite some time.”

The dip is 400 feet long and a little more than 1½ feet deep, DOT said. It crosses all four lanes of the interstate. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20130925/GPG0101/309250360
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This is yet again evidence of how putting off maintenance costs more than any money saved, as the economic impact ripples outward. The governor of Wisconsin, Scott Walker, delayed critical maintenance of the bridge ( http://www.roadsbridges.com/dot-wisconsin-slows-road-construction-acti
vity
), even ignoring when cracks were discovered in 2012, and used money for bridge maintenance to instead pay back mutual funds and bankers ( http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2013/sep/01/kathleen-vi
nehout/gov-scott-walker-responsible-record-debt-payments
-/). And it is not as if this was a surprise, as reports explaining the need for $64 billion in critical maintenance, back in 2004. "THE $64 BILLION QUESTION
WISCONSIN’S LOOMING INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS", http://www.wpri.org/WIInterest/Vol13no2/Mil13.2.pdf)

Beginning in 2004, an array of right-wing think tanks fought for what they called the Taxpayers Bill of Rights, which would in part hurt Wisconsin’s ability to maintain its infrastructure. While this initiative was defeated in 2004 and 2006, it is now the law of the land. Scott Walker has codified the right for Wisconsin citizens to potentially die on unsafe roads, to undermine the state economy, in general giving the citizens of the state a giant middle finger.

Meanwhile, in Colorado, the torrential rains resulted in flooding which was made worse by multiple dams which have failed, with dozens more still at risk.

Republicans have blocked bills to deal with repair or maintenance on infrastructure throughout the state ( http://www.desdemonadespair.net//feeds/posts/https://www.roadsbridges.
com/colorado-governor-blames-republicans-legislative-failure
). These efforts, done in the name of "fiscal conservatism", do not save money at all, and wind up costing far more than the money saved. Several bridges and dams had already failed before the flooding ( http://www.coloradodot.info/news/2012-news-releases/08-2012/highway-67
-closed-due-to-bridge-failure
), which makes the added stress of the current conditions too much to bear. It is reported that over 100 bridges are unsafe ( http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_18684192?source=bb) while the number of dams nearing failure continues to climb ( http://www.damsafety.org/map/state.aspx?s=6), with over 300 dams listed as at-risk, and two dozen as of extreme risk.

The department tasked with managing the repairs for dams in the state is woefully understaffed and underbudgeted, and the state Republicans refuse to fund any repairs ( http://www.denverpost.com/ci_17314534) in their push for “small government.” This flies in the face of the reality of aging dam infrastructure across the United States, with 85% to be over a half-century old by 2020. ( http://www.denverpost.com/environment/ci_24080336/dams-break-at-rocky-
mountain-arsenal-and-larimer
)

How many more roads, bridges, dams, etc., have to fail across

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Saturday, May 31, 2025 10:10 PM

and lands of military bunkers and more money for new Aircraft Carriers? Project Greek Island Greenbrier, Mount Weather Emergency Hotel for the Congress and Senate, Mount Pony in Culpeper, maybe rule from Canada they can do that with Canadian Forces Base (CFB) Ontario where the USA has a foreign government base to rule from overseas, maybe there was a base rumored at Selfridge AFB they said its now closed if you believe them and they just do a little training there...nothing to see

Doomsday bunker sales skyrocket from small metal crawl spaces to underground mansions but they come with a grim warning
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/32385829/doomsday-bunker-sales-warning-n
uclear-war
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Trump Justice Dept ends civil rights case against Mount Vernon Police. What to know
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-justice-dept-ends-civil-205518266.htm
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Wednesday, June 4, 2025 5:36 PM

why China didn't collapse?

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THG
Thursday, June 5, 2025 9:51 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

Republicans in general are a shrewd lot. Re-routing money away from maintenance puts money in their pockets, then critical failure puts money in their friend's pockets. Screwing the taxpayers is a win/win situation.





Holy shit yes, you are dead on, and I wish you'd see the need to start posing again. You did pop in a month or so ago. Do it again.

T

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Thursday, June 5, 2025 9:55 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:

Republicans in general are a shrewd lot. Re-routing money away from maintenance puts money in their pockets, then critical failure puts money in their friend's pockets. Screwing the taxpayers is a win/win situation.





Holy shit yes, you are dead on, and I wish you'd see the need to start posing again. You did pop in a month or so ago. Do it again.

T




Oh. You mean exactly what Democrats did with their Infrastructure Bill that bankrupted us?

Shut the fuck up, Ted. You little faggot.

Chrissisall hates you too. And if he doesn't yet, he will by the time he's done here if he does come back.



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THG
Thursday, June 5, 2025 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

why China didn't collapse?



First of all, the world opening business in China built China. China just had to sit back and let it happen. If they were such good business people they would have been Chinese businesses being built; they weren't.

The guy in the video is ignoring what has happened because of a lack of a workforce, the new to replace the old. And while some will say, look at the unemployment figures, they would fail to realize you need the skills of the unemployed to match the jobs available. Mostly they do not.

He is ignoring China’s debt. If you think America is in debt trouble, check out China’s. Their debt problem is 10 times ours. Why hasn’t China gone under yet? Because it takes decades for a country like China to fail. And they are deep into that process.

T

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Thursday, June 5, 2025 10:12 PM

Look at Ted, pretending like he's got 2 neurons firing.

Shut the fuck up, stupid.

Everything you've ever said would happen in the last 12 years hasn't happened.

You are as worthless as any of your "opinions", which are nothing but the headlines you can manage to struggle through with that 3rd grade reading level of yours.

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THG
Thursday, June 5, 2025 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

why China didn't collapse?



First of all, the world opening business in China built China. China just had to sit back and let it happen. If they were such good business people they would have been Chinese businesses being built; they weren't.

The guy in the video is ignoring what has happened because of a lack of a workforce, the new to replace the old. And while some will say, look at the unemployment figures, they would fail to realize you need the skills of the unemployed to match the jobs available. Mostly they do not.

He is ignoring China’s debt. If you think America is in debt trouble, check out China’s. Their debt problem is 10 times ours. Why hasn’t China gone under yet? Because it takes decades for a country like China to fail. And they are deep in that process.

T



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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Look at Ted, pretending like he's got 2 neurons firing.

Shut the fuck up, stupid.

Everything you've ever said would happen in the last 12 years hasn't happened.

You are as worthless as any of your "opinions", which are nothing but the headlines you can manage to struggle through with that 3rd grade reading level of yours.






I’ve posted what Jack was responding to above his post to me, because he did not. I did this so you could get a clear picture of who has critical thinking skills and who does not. So instead, he trolls and repeats himself.

T

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Thursday, June 5, 2025 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

why China didn't collapse?



First of all, the world opening business in China built China. China just had to sit back and let it happen. If they were such good business people they would have been Chinese businesses being built; they weren't.

The guy in the video is ignoring what has happened because of a lack of a workforce, the new to replace the old. And while some will say, look at the unemployment figures, they would fail to realize you need the skills of the unemployed to match the jobs available. Mostly they do not.

He is ignoring China’s debt. If you think America is in debt trouble, check out China’s. Their debt problem is 10 times ours. Why hasn’t China gone under yet? Because it takes decades for a country like China to fail. And we are deep in that process.

T



Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Look at Ted, pretending like he's got 2 neurons firing.

Shut the fuck up, stupid.

Everything you've ever said would happen in the last 12 years hasn't happened.

You are as worthless as any of your "opinions", which are nothing but the headlines you can manage to struggle through with that 3rd grade reading level of yours.






I’ve posted what Jack was responding to above his post to me, because he did not. I did this so you could get a clear picture of who has critical thinking skills and who does not. So instead, he trolls and repeats himself.

T





I'm going to enjoy seeing how this one plays out.




You really have no clue, do you?

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THG
Thursday, June 5, 2025 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

why China didn't collapse?



First of all, the world opening business in China built China. China just had to sit back and let it happen. If they were such good business people they would have been Chinese businesses being built; they weren't.

The guy in the video is ignoring what has happened because of a lack of a workforce, the new to replace the old. And while some will say, look at the unemployment figures, they would fail to realize you need the skills of the unemployed to match the jobs available. Mostly they do not.

He is ignoring China’s debt. If you think America is in debt trouble, check out China’s. Their debt problem is 10 times ours. Why hasn’t China gone under yet? Because it takes decades for a country like China to fail. And we are deep in that process.

T



Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Look at Ted, pretending like he's got 2 neurons firing.

Shut the fuck up, stupid.

Everything you've ever said would happen in the last 12 years hasn't happened.

You are as worthless as any of your "opinions", which are nothing but the headlines you can manage to struggle through with that 3rd grade reading level of yours.






I’ve posted what Jack was responding to above his post to me, because he did not. I did this so you could get a clear picture of who has critical thinking skills and who does not. So instead, he trolls and repeats himself.

T





I'm going to enjoy seeing how this one plays out.



You really have no clue, do you?





I present evidence, educated opinions. You clammer back with derogatory, insulting and uneducated noise. Evidence of this is everywhere. It’s what you do. Hey, you can always wait until I misspell a word so you can puff out your chest and say shit about it. Too funny...

T


Don't Be Surprised by China's Collapse


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