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Does college still have a purpose in the age of ChatGPT?

POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 6:45 PM

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Oh... and I don't expect you to listen to me bitch or complain. That's your choice. I wouldn't listen if you were bitching and complaining about anything either.

I'm sure you've been fucked 12 ways from Sunday all your life too, in your own special way, and nobody wants to hear about any of it.

But feel free to post all about it even if it probably won't be read.



I find it to be quite therapeutic sometimes to put the words down on paper and get them out of your head where they aren't serving any purpose and don't need to be residing. Just turns out I prefer typing them out rather than writing them.

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Who wouldn't want to know about the non-stop soap opera going on inside a Trumptard's mind? 6ix, you're very entertaining in a way that the less articulate Texas Trumptards can never be.



Mayhap the resident Billionaire does know who I am and where I live afterall...

He just knows its far safer for him to pretend he doesn't know who I am so he can just continue to make death threats to me safely from behind that computer screen on a weekly basis that never had any fangs behind them.

I don't blame you for being afraid of me Second.

I'd be afraid of me too.





Meanwhile, yeah... I suppose you're right. I am a hell of a lot more interesting than you are on my most average of days.

You've posted the word Trump no less than 100,000 times in 12 years. Who knows? Maybe it's even close to a million times by now.

You have a one track, undistinguished, indescribably boring mind. Nothing you've ever said has been interesting. Nothing you've ever thought was profound.

You are a very simple creature. Almost amoeba-like when standing side to side next to somebody like me.

That's got to suck, huh?

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 6:59 PM


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Find something meaningful to do (meaningful to others, not just you) besides venting your entitled-ness online.

SIX: Don't get it twisted. I'm under no illusion that I'm entitled to anything. I've got 45 years of everything being taken away from me that wasn't nailed down.

And yet you're still pissed that you couldn't continue with cushy jobs based on your smile and being just a bit smarter than the people you worked for, bc some guy in India was willing to do for less.

I guess the difference between you and me is that I NEVER thought life would be easy. I grew up hearing stories about how my dad went from being so smart he went from a peasant farm to being a PhD in physics to being a prisoner in a Siberian labor camp ... and being lucky to have made it that far. For him, it was 10 years of literally life and death struggle.

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I loved my last job, and I would have been happy working the rest of my life there part-time for $11.72 per hour, while being in the shape of my life... but can't even have that.
No. They took away the night shift, and you didn't like that, so you quit. Oh boo hoo.

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SIGNY Get out of the house and take a walk around the block. Visit your brother... not the rich one, the other one. See how your aunt is doing. Help one of your buddies. Say "hi" to a neighbor.

SIX Not bad advice. Duly noted. I'll take it under consideration.

I hope you do.
You're seriously in a rut. I know you've been working on a project and tangling with SECOND in between, but you need a change of scenery now.

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SIGNY: Your life could be so much worse, and for someone who claims to be living just the way he wants, you sure are awfully angry.

SIX: I never said I live the way I want to live. I live the way I choose to live, given the circumstances. I don't play by their rules because fuck their rules.

I know it could be way worse. It would be if I were a stupid white male.

But that's where the blessing part of being quite a bit above-average intelligence ends and the curse part comes in.

I'm simply too smart to be happy.

How many truly smart people do you know in your life that are truly happy? Any of them that you can name are probably just really good at keeping that mask from slipping, much like I am in real life. I don't share any of these opinions with any real people in my real life. Honestly, most of them are probably too stupid to even have conversations like this with, and those rare few that are smart enough don't have any time for my bullshit because they've got enough of their own to deal with everyday.

In our modern society, most smart men end up dying by their own hands.

Really? Ive known two really smart nen whose lives were fsr harder than yours and they didn'tgo off in a snit.
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I have no doubt that is in my future at some point. We're still quite a ways from that and I have things I still need doing before that happens, but once my health is failing me in any significant way and I can no longer take care of myself, or I'm dealing with some issues that just make everything day-to-day a miserable, painful slog, let's just say that I won't be putting anybody else out because of it. And I sure as hell won't ever be caught living in an assisted living home.

I'll just make my way to whatever the next plane of existence is at that point, and I'll do it in as dignified a way as possible when it happens. On my own terms, just how I lived my life, and not caught pants down with my pud in my hands like half these jokers end up being found.


The curse of looking ahead. SIX, it sounds like you don't have anything worth living for besides yourself. But what about your brother? Is he really set for life? Given the vagaries of the USA in its declining years, I wouldn't count on it.

As for me, I have responsibilities to my husba

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 7:11 PM

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I loved my last job, and I would have been happy working the rest of my life there part-time for $11.72 per hour, while being in the shape of my life... but can't even have that.
No. They took away the night shift, and you didn't like that, so you quit. Oh boo hoo.



If you remember that bit, but you're going to take that little bit of the story out of context without the terms I was given if I stayed and frame my life as if you were Rachel Maddow making her story of the night about Trump, you can go fuck right off.

How's that, Sigs?

This conversation is done. Go talk about ChatGPT if you have anything left to add, because you've got nothing worth talking about either.


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Thursday, May 29, 2025 12:39 AM

All I remember, SIX, is that you liked working at night bc you could work by yourself the way you wanted. That you did most of the work but didn't mind bc you were getting a workout. Also, the manager was reasonable. But since the whole shift was being eliminated so was the manager.

I don't recall what the daytime situation was. The new position was at another store? The daytime manager was an asshole? The hours were too short? Aside from you not being able to work by yourself the way you wanted, nothing stood out from your posts as to why you decided to essentially quit, but were able to claim unemployment for some reason. If I missed the explanation, tell me.

Also, I noticed you didn't respond to my other points, one of which is: LIFE is capricious and unreasonable. Aside from nature dealing us disease and disaster, TPTB have learned to extract our work for their benefit, impoverishing us along the way. The only way to REALLY quit the system IMHO is to kill yourself, or to live 100% by yourself. As long as you're plugged in in some way - healthcare, savings, house, job, whatever - there is still something that can be taken away.

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Thursday, May 29, 2025 12:47 AM

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All I remember, SIX, is that you liked working at night bc you could work by yourself the way you wanted. That you did most of the work but didn't mind bc you were getting a qworkout. Also, the manager was reasonable. But since the whole shift was being eliminated so was the manager.

I don't recall what the daytime situation was. The new position was at another store? The daytime manager was an asshole? The hours were too short? Aside from you not being able to work by yourself the way you wanted, nothing stood out from your posts as to why you decided to essentially quit, but were able to claim unemployment for some reason. If I missed the explanation, tell me.



I wrote two pages about it. You picked out 1 sentence.

I'm not going go re-write it, but I went from a guaranteed weekly schedule of 8 to 12 hour nights (depending on how long I wanted to stay after my 8 hour shift on any given night), to completely randomized blocks of work, any time of day, any day of the week, and only 3 hour shifts per day guaranteed, all spit out by a computer with zero human interaction involved.

This makes it "fair" for everyone, and no manager has any input that somebody could consider favoritism.

No. I'm not going to drive 40 hours round trip for a 3 hour shift on Saturday night, then turn back around 6 hours later to go back for another 3 hour shift on Sunday morning.

That's wage slavery. I refuse wage slavery.

And that's only one of the problems with the switch, but in my mind it was the biggest one. Bigger than them taking away my extra $1/hr I was making for working overnights for sure.

It's also why I was able to claim unemployment and I laughed at them and wished them luck when they threatened me with it. They did not carry out that threat because they knew better.


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Thursday, May 29, 2025 1:30 AM

Oh, I added to my post.

Got it. That whole issue of random, non-guaranteed scheduling really pisses me off. I understand now why you quit.

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So, aprops of chatgpi, I still think it's a case of GIGO. ChatGPI will still be bounded by language i.e. "what people talk about". I don't know how else to explain it, but that blazing insight like E=mc^2 or that we evolved thru a period of being semi-aquatic... those kinds of discoveries are beyond the bounds of "what people talk about" , which IMHO also includes a lot of nonsense about angels and tyranny and whatnot.

And there are things ChatGPI and other AIs will NEVER automate, like small engine repair and plumbing and cattle ranching.

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Thursday, May 29, 2025 2:22 AM

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Oh, I added to my post.

Got it. That whole issue of random, non-guaranteed scheduling really pisses me off. I understand now why you quit.



No harm. Sorry for overreacting, which I'm sure that I did.

I just don't abide false arguments, particularly about my life, especially when I'm a pretty open book about it all here. I get enough of that from Second here, although I know it's intentional when he does it.

The schedule was the only thing they had to offer me, since they give everyone the same raise every year no matter who works harder and who shows up every day vs. those that don't do anything all night and call off all the time.

Take that away from me and you can sit on your job.

That's my one luxury in life. I don't have to stay anywhere and eat a shit sandwich everyday.



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So, aprops of chatgpi, I still think it's a case of GIGO. ChatGPI will still be bounded by language i.e. "what people talk about". I don't know how else to explain it, but that blazing insight like E=mc^2 or that we evolved thru a period of being semi-aquatic... those kinds of discoveries are beyond the bounds of "what people talk about" , which IMHO also includes a lot of nonsense about angels and tyranny and whatnot.


I think a recent story I heard about them using AI in a new Star Wars online game with James Earl Jones' voice as Darth Vader explains what you're talking about pretty well...



Pretty sure that James Earl Jones and his family would not approve Disney doing this.

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And there are things ChatGPI and other AIs will NEVER automate, like small engine repair and plumbing and cattle ranching.



Time to make those jobs pay something you can raise a family on again and get America back to working after getting everyone who doesn't belong here to go back home.

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Sunday, June 1, 2025 2:21 PM

Yes there is something to 'college' and yes if you are given real experience, they make your work, literally doing the wires, making a bridge, doing the code, running a small business then your learn something real... it still has purpose and the Chatbots seem to make people dumber. The calculator is not your brain it is just a tool and like the Calculator or Spell check the Chatbot can remove critical thinking skills and makes the brain logically lazy depending on some software AI machine to slove problems. Now try it all with the power off, a ruler, your math simple mathematics, building by hand, the metal work carpentry, the physics and chemistry. Let's get them all back to pen and paper to figure it out, no internets...just basic building, count them money by hand, figure out the language and foreign language pharses by listening yourself. Back to basics to figure out electrical current and wiring, your basic on and off logic codes of 0 and 1s and hexademical and reproducing info and sound transmitted, then try to keep people happy, fix legal disputes, make them fancy clothes, entertain them with stage events and music, build a temple where they can sing and do happy clap Christian songs or bang a gong for a Buddha monk. try all this literally building a society from scratch its a lot more difficult than movies make it seem.
LOGIC is difficult when you get lazy and ask Chatbots!

Whatever changed over time colleges and uni turned inward, this was way before Chatbots...it got politcial! like the Fall of Rome, they became places of elite and pointless 'debate'...the Asian ones did not really go the same way, they took many of the best skills the West had in building and they pumped out these computer manufacturing people almost 'machine like' they might seem soulless but they certainly knew how to build stuff. Massachusetts Institute of Technology, some of those ones in Japan Germany China SKorea although they are run by psychos, University of Michigan, National University of Singapore (NUS) Singapore, Zurich Switzerland, Johns Hopkins Engineering that seems to be doing well these days...and there was always something 'Fucked Up' about the old money elite ones, yes they spoke posh, they could debate with you forever, they knew how to sit at a posh restaurant talk fancy and they had the best frat parties the pagan robes with masonic symbols and all the blackmail and booze and drugs...and yet they would come to a door and could not figure out 'Push' or 'Pull' they needed an instruction manual or maybe have some servant or butler do it for them?
the elite ones became the blob, the world globalist elite servant who spoke posh and enjoyed sniffing their own farts


and now...its even more crazy


quick its all political now! pick the islamics who hate infidels or go to the sandbox and pick the shekel guys who hate goyim!

and now the politics even comes for the best of them?

Jewish and Israeli students walked out and some in the crowd protested as Vemuri accused the university of being "directly complicit in the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people." "The Israeli occupation forces are the only foreign military that MIT has research ties with. This means that Israel's assault on the Palestinian people is not only aided and abetted by our country, but our school. As scientists, engineers, academics, and leaders, we have a commitment to support life. Support aid efforts and call for an arms embargo and keep demanding now as alumni that MIT cuts the ties," she said. One graduating Israeli student, who wished to remain anonymous, told Fox News Digital, "All of our families came from far to see the ceremony and were extremely disappointed. All the Jewish families, not only the Israelis, stepped out and left the ceremony. MIT administration approved and supported that."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/jewish-students-walk-out-after-mit-comme
ncement-speaker-accuses-university-aiding-israels-genocide



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