Does college still have a purpose in the age of ChatGPT?
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Sunday, June 1, 2025 14:21
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:You REALLY think that when McDonald's was requiring a Bachelor's for cashier it was a great idea?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:You're a bright guy. It seems like if anyone could take advantage of further education, it would be you. And with the right major you get something more than a McJob. So, what was your intended college major?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:You're damn right I do. Me and most of GenX.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The phrase I keyed on was "I resent".
And look around you and see where that got us.
Sorry, but you are just being dumb now.
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I resent that any job I've applied for above retail has made it a requirement for a college diploma before they'll even look at your resume.
Thank you, JSF.
Most jobs don't require any degree. Not even a high school diploma, especially since none of these kids getting them today can fucking read or do any math anyway.
Any jobs that don't actually require schooling, which is the VAST majority of them, have nothing more than varying degrees of on the job training and experience that you're ONLY going to get doing that job. And very rarely does the work experience and training you got on any job above retail translate easily somewhere else other than the fact that it's not your first rodeo by the time you get to the next one, and you should have an easier time picking things up when you're new.
School, in all of its forms, for 90% of us is nothing more than a means of beating us down into cogs for the machine. Stripping away your personality and individualism as much as they possibly can for 12 years, and again for another 4 or more if you inflict that lifelong debt upon yourself to learn nothing worth learning.
This is not a bug. It's a feature. It is why the public school system was created in the first place.
They don't teach you that in school, of course, but it doesn't mean that it isn't true.
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Yanno SIX, your endlesss, entitled, butt-hurt whinging is boring.
Think of something new, please.
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TV host and mikeroweWORKS Foundation CEO Mike Rowe says the current labor shortage and shifting work ethic are rooted in deeper cultural changes.
“We’re the clouds from which the snowflakes fell,” he said, suggesting older generations helped create today’s workforce mindset, according to Fox News.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno SIX, your endlesss, entitled, butt-hurt whinging is boring.
Think of something new, please.
Don't give a shit about your opinion.
I've done just fine despite all of it because, again, I've always been the smartest person in the room.
They might have beat the ambition out of me in school, but it wasn't all bad. I figured out how to live life the easiest way possible as a side effect of it. For better or for worse.
I might not end up doing all that much by the time I'm dead, but at least I didn't spend most of my life being part of this statistic...
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The average U.S. worker spends roughly 25% to 33% of their life working. This equates to about 90,000 hours over a lifetime. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average person age 15 and up spends about 3.56 hours per day working. For individuals who work, this average jumps to 8.13 hours per day.
90,000 hours over a lifetime. Working your asses off to make somebody else rich.
I've probably already done more than 90,000 hours of work pretty easily. But 2/3rds of it was unpaid work I did for myself, working on things I want to work on.
I'm really not complaining about anything, honestly. I've been just fine despite TPTB spending the last 40 years trying to ruin white males worldwide. I haven't lived a great life, but I've lived a good one.
If they've finally come to their senses and want to hire somebody worth hiring for a change, I could still be persuaded back into the workforce if I felt the work was worthwhile.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I might not end up doing all that much by the time I'm dead, but at least I didn't spend most of my life being part of this statistic...Quote:
The average U.S. worker spends roughly 25% to 33% of their life working. This equates to about 90,000 hours over a lifetime. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average person age 15 and up spends about 3.56 hours per day working. For individuals who work, this average jumps to 8.13 hours per day.
90,000 hours over a lifetime. Working your asses off to make somebody else rich.
[Verse 1]
He wakes up in the morning
Does his teeth bite to eat and he's rolling
Never changes a thing
The week ends, the week begins
She thinks, we look at each other
Wondering what the other is thinking
But we never say a thing
These crimes between us grow deeper
[Chorus]
Take these chances
Place them in a box until a quieter time
Lights down, you up and die
[Verse 2]
Goes to visit his mommy
She feeds him well his concerns
He forgets them
And remembers being small
Playing under the table and dreaming
[Chorus]
Take these chances
Place them in a box until a quieter time
Lights down, you up and die
[Verse 3]
Driving along this highway
All these cars and upon the sidewalk
People in every direction
No words exchanged
No time to exchange
[Bridge]
When all the little ants are marching
Red and black antennae waving
They all do it the same
They all do it the same way
[Verse 4]
Candyman tempting the thoughts of a
Sweet tooth tortured by the weight loss
Program cutting the corners
Loose end, loose end, cut, cut
On the fence, could not to offend
Cut, cut, cut, cut
[Chorus]
Take these chances
Place them in a box until a quieter time
Lights down, you up and die
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Lights down, you up and die
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Find something meaningful to do (meaningful to others, not just you) besides venting your entitled-ness online.
Get out of the house and take a walk around the block. Visit your brother... not the rich one, the other one. See how your aunt is doing. Help one of your buddies. Say "hi" to a neighbor.
Your life could be so much worse, and for someone who claims to be living just the way he wants, you sure are awfully angry.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Find something meaningful to do (meaningful to others, not just you) besides venting your entitled-ness online.
Don't get it twisted. I'm under no illusion that I'm entitled to anything. I've got 45 years of everything being taken away from me that wasn't nailed down.
I loved my last job, and I would have been happy working the rest of my life there part-time for $11.72 per hour, while being in the shape of my life... but can't even have that.
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Get out of the house and take a walk around the block. Visit your brother... not the rich one, the other one. See how your aunt is doing. Help one of your buddies. Say "hi" to a neighbor.
Not bad advice. Duly noted. I'll take it under consideration.
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Your life could be so much worse, and for someone who claims to be living just the way he wants, you sure are awfully angry.
I never said I live the way I want to live. I live the way I choose to live, given the circumstances. I don't play by their rules because fuck their rules.
I know it could be way worse. It would be if I were a stupid white male.
But that's where the blessing part of being quite a bit above-average intelligence ends and the curse part comes in.
I'm simply too smart to be happy.
How many truly smart people do you know in your life that are truly happy? Any of them that you can name are probably just really good at keeping that mask from slipping, much like I am in real life. I don't share any of these opinions with any real people in my real life. Honestly, most of them are probably too stupid to even have conversations like this with, and those rare few that are smart enough don't have any time for my bullshit because they've got enough of their own to deal with everyday.
In our modern society, most smart men end up dying by their own hands. I have no doubt that is in my future at some point. We're still quite a ways from that and I have things I still need doing before that happens, but once my health is failing me in any significant way and I can no longer take care of myself, or I'm dealing with some issues that just make everything day-to-day a miserable, painful slog, let's just say that I won't be putting anybody else out because of it. And I sure as hell won't ever be caught living in an assisted living home.
I'll just make my way to whatever the next plane of existence is at that point, and I'll do it in as dignified a way as possible when it happens. On my own terms, just how I lived my life, and not caught pants down with my pud in my hands like half these jokers end up being found.
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Oh... and I don't expect you to listen to me bitch or complain. That's your choice. I wouldn't listen if you were bitching and complaining about anything either.
I'm sure you've been fucked 12 ways from Sunday all your life too, in your own special way, and nobody wants to hear about any of it.
But feel free to post all about it even if it probably won't be read.
I find it to be quite therapeutic sometimes to put the words down on paper and get them out of your head where they aren't serving any purpose and don't need to be residing. Just turns out I prefer typing them out rather than writing them.
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Quote:Who wouldn't want to know about the non-stop soap opera going on inside a Trumptard's mind? 6ix, you're very entertaining in a way that the less articulate Texas Trumptards can never be.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Oh... and I don't expect you to listen to me bitch or complain. That's your choice. I wouldn't listen if you were bitching and complaining about anything either.
I'm sure you've been fucked 12 ways from Sunday all your life too, in your own special way, and nobody wants to hear about any of it.
But feel free to post all about it even if it probably won't be read.
I find it to be quite therapeutic sometimes to put the words down on paper and get them out of your head where they aren't serving any purpose and don't need to be residing. Just turns out I prefer typing them out rather than writing them.
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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America Turns Its Back on the World
Blocking foreign students is an act of self-destruction — and self-betrayal
By Paul Krugman | May 28, 2025 at 5:36 AM
https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/america-turns-its-back-on-the-world
My wife and I are co-authors of a widely used textbook on the principles of economics, which is revised on a three-year cycle. When a new edition comes out, I normally visit a number of schools that might adopt it, usually giving a big public talk, a smaller technical seminar, and spending some time with students and faculty. I enjoy it, by the way; there are a lot of good, interesting people in U.S. education, and not just in the high-prestige schools.
So it was that at one point I found myself visiting Texas Tech in Lubbock. Yes, it seemed pretty remote to someone who has spent almost his whole life in the Northeast Corridor, but as usual the overall experience was very positive. And it was also surprisingly cosmopolitan: there were students from many nations. I just checked the numbers, and currently 30 percent of Texas Tech’s graduate students are international.
So it is all across America. Our nation’s ability to attract foreigners to study here is one of our great strengths. Or maybe I should say was one of our strengths.
According to Politico, a cable from Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, has directed U.S. embassies and consulates to halt all processing of visa applications from foreigners hoping to study in the United States. This is reportedly a temporary measure in preparation for a new system in which would-be students will be screened on the basis of their social media history. And you can be sure that the criteria for denying entry will go far beyond, you know, advocating terrorism. Probably asking “Why was Trump talking to West Point grads about trophy wives?” will be grounds for rejection.
This completely insane policy move is presumably a temper tantrum in response to a court’s rejection of the administration’s attempt to prevent Harvard from admitting foreign students, which was in turn a temper tantrum in response to Harvard’s rejection of demands from Trumpists that they be allowed to dictate the university’s hiring and curriculum.
The courts will probably reject this policy move, too, but I worry that Rubio and co. can put enough sand in the gears of the visa process to bring the entry of international students to a near halt. And even if they can’t, the clear message to students that they aren’t welcome (and may be arrested once here) will have an immensely chilling effect.
It’s hard to overstate the self-destructiveness of this move, and the war on higher education in general. This is madness even in purely economic terms.
We don’t often think of education as a major U.S. export, but it is. International students typically pay full tuition and require little or no financial aid. Here’s “education-related travel,” basically international students, compared with some other major U.S. exports:
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics
And because international students typically pay full freight, while domestic students often don’t, foreign students help support higher education financially. That’s a big deal. My sense is that most people have no idea how important higher education is as a source of jobs, many of them middle-class. Here’s a comparison of employment in “Universities, colleges and professional schools” with employment in some politically prominent sectors:
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