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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, right.

And they never noticed the Covid lockdowns, mandatory vaccinations, widespread censorship and "official" disinformation (lies) about ... well, everything? From the source of the Covid virus to Hunter Biden's laptop to inflation to Biden's mental competence?

Al Gore says "Fuck Signym, who is a goddamn Nazi mixing truth and falsehood, creating a poison."

Al Gore compares Trump administration to Nazi Germany

The former vice president said the administration was “insisting on trying to create their own preferred version of reality.”

By Debra Kahn | 04/22/2025 12:16 AM EDT

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/22/al-gore-compares-trump-admini
stration-to-third-reich-hitler-00302348


Gore cited German philosophers’ “moral autopsy on the Third Reich” in the aftermath of World War II.

“It was [Jürgen] Habermas’ mentor, Theodore Adorno, who wrote that the first step in that nation’s descent into hell was, and I quote, ‘the conversion of all questions of truth into questions of power,”’ Gore said. “He described how the Nazis, and I quote again, ‘attacked the very heart of the distinction between true and false.’ End quote. The Trump administration is insisting on trying to create their own preferred version of reality.”

“I understand very well why it is wrong to compare Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich to any other movement,” Gore said. “It was uniquely evil, full stop. I get it. But there are important lessons from the history of that emergent evil.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 10:59 AM

Wow, now you're using Al Gore?

I can't tell you how seriously I take that!
Really!



BTW, I'm getting money-begging texts from Al.




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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, now you're using Al Gore?

I can't tell you how seriously I take that!
Really!



BTW, I'm getting money-begging texts from Al.

Are you implying that Signym has superior judgment of people, ideas AND the news? Just asking because I get the impression you are a Trumptard. They don't do better than average. They are worse at everything, except for lying, bragging, and cheating. That's why the rotten behavior of Trumptards doesn't repel other Trumptards. The Trumptards I know act evil every day and don't see anything wrong. (The Trumptards side with Russia over Ukraine. They think that cutting USAID to starving people is efficient. They think tariffs will cause factories to be built in the US. They think white people can't get ahead because of blacks. Etc. Trumptards have an endless supply of stupid ideas roaming in their heads, which they are convinced are wisdom.) Trumptards are kind of like drunks who deny they are drunk and get angry at anyone who points to their huge consumption of alcohol. How you Trumptards squander your lives is NOT normal, but it is typical.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 5:27 PM

Cronyism, Capitulation and Utter Chaos
And what the hell was Scott Bessent doing briefing Morgan clients?

By Paul Krugman | Apr 23, 2025

https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/cronyism-capitulation-and-chaos

Hitting the road today, but I have time for a note on the news that moved markets yesterday. Bloomberg reports:

US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told a closed-door investor summit Tuesday that the tariff standoff with China cannot be sustained by both sides and that the world’s two largest economies will have to find ways to de-escalate.

That de-escalation will come in the very near future, Bessent said during an event hosted by J.P. Morgan Chase in Washington, which wasn’t open to the public or media. He characterized the current situation as essentially a trade embargo, according to people who attended the session.

Investors liked this report, but it was, if you think about it, deeply disturbing on two levels.

First — and why aren’t more people saying this? — what the hell was the Treasury secretary doing giving a closed-door briefing on a significant policy change that hadn’t yet been officially announced? Isn’t that a setup for large-scale insider trading? Indeed, attendees at that conference surely made market bets before Bessent’s remarks became public.

And since when are major policy announcements by government officials made off the record to closed private-sector meetings? One even wonders whether Bessent was announcing policy or making it: Did Trump back him up only after the fact?

The content of his remarks aside, what was Bessent even doing at this event? Senior government officials aren’t supposed to be helping investment banks entertain their clients.

Was Bessent paid for his appearance? That would have been inconceivable under any previous administration, but now God knows. Or are we now entering an era in which companies that do favors for Trump and co., either in the form of money or support for their policies, get lucrative insider briefings?

Put it this way: New York Times conflict of interest rules would have prohibited me, as an opinion writer, from talking to a closed-door session at J.P. Morgan. For the Treasury secretary to do so — especially when announcing a major policy change — is a huge ethical breach.

Let’s also talk about the substance of what Bessent reportedly said. Namely, he declared that the enormous tariffs Trump imposed on China will soon be reversed. Those tariffs are indeed crazy, amounting, as Bessent said, to an embargo.

But this is an extraordinary reversal — a capitulation equivalent to surrender. And bear in mind that the damage being done by Trump’s tariffs comes not just from how high they are but from the uncertainty they’re creating. That gigantic China tariff was announced just two weeks ago. Now Trump says, “we will be very nice and they’re going to be very nice.” How can any business make plans in this kind of environment?

Oh, and it seems likely that Trump will announce trade “deals,” possibly with China, probably with other countries, that aren’t actually deals — just “memorandums of understanding” that offer few specifics. He and Bessent will try to spin this as a policy triumph, but all that will really have happened is a confirmation that you can’t trust anything this administration says, including its threats.

As the same time Trump has made a humiliating climb-down on Jerome Powell.

While news media and some investors may still be credulous enough to believe Trump’s boasts, harder-headed players will look at his U-turns and conclude that he runs away when confronted. Why would China be "very nice” now that it knows that Trump can be rolled? On the contrary, China will be even less likely than before to make concessions. And other countries will be more willing to stand up to Trump and more likely to make deals with Beijing.

We are, in short, in a worse position than we were before Trump began his tariff bluster. Being a cowardly, loud-mouthed bully presiding over utter chaos is not an effective n

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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 5:50 PM

Trump's Psychological Vulnerability And the Destruction of the American Economy

By Timothy Snyder | Apr 10, 2025

https://snyder.substack.com/p/trumps-psychological-vulnerability

Trump has an obvious weakness that makes America weak. He places the American economy at risk for the sake of a personal foible, a visible vulnerability.

All his adult life, Trump has been ripping people off. That is his modus operandi. Rather than a conscience, he has the habit of displacement. It is not that he is ripping people off. Everyone else is ripping him off.

As he has aged this has grown into an vulnerability. He actually seems to believe that everyone is ripping him off. He makes no distinction between himself and the government. And he has no grasp of how any significant policy actually works. This means that anyone who has access to him and understands his vulnerability can generate a self-destructive American policy.

An easy example of this, before the tariffs, was Ukraine. Somewhere Trump got the idea that Ukraine was ripping off the United States. And once the idea was in his head, he was its slave. He kept repeating that the Ukraine owed the United States $350 billion.

This made no sense. The assistance in question was aid, not a loan. The value of the aid was about a third of what Trump claimed. Most of the military aid came in the form of spending inside the United States. And of course the Ukrainians have paid. They have fulfilled the entire NATO mission by themselves in holding off a Russian attack. They have suffered enormous losses of all kinds. And they have shared intelligence and innovations with the United States. But none of that matters to Trump. Once he is told that he is being ripped off, he is helpless, and others must suffer.

We don't know now, though it is not hard to guess, who told Trump that Ukraine was ripping him off. The Russians have a keen sense of psychological vulnerabilities, and they have been paying close attention to Trump for a long time.

Trump also cites the made-up number of $350 billion to justify tariffs. He claims that Europeans, curiously, somehow "owe" the United States that exact same amount. Trump believes that if Americans buy more from another country than residents of that country buy from us, that is a loss, that he personally is somehow being ripped off. And so when the United States formulated tariffs on the whole world last week, the operating principle was that all trade deficits -- cases where we buy more than we sell -- should be eliminated.

This is nonsensical. There is no state of nature where countries buy and sell the exact same amount from one another.

Imagine a party where people are freely talking to each other. Then someone jumps up on a table and insists that in every conversation each speaker should use the exact same number of words as the person with whom he or she is in dialogue. What would happen then? Every conversation would grind to a halt, because an artificial planned equality of words is not how conversations work. An artificial planned equality of the value of imports and exports is, by the same token, not how trade works.

There is a much injustice in international trade. And there is much to be said for a thoughtful trade policy that protects or encourages certain industries. Manufacturing is of inherent value. But none of this will arise from the hurt feelings of an oligarchical president.

Because Trump's policy is based on personal vulnerability, it is erratic. If someone makes him feel more vulnerable than he was already, he will stop. He will not, for example, impose tariffs on Russia, because he is afraid of Russia. On the other hand, if someone convinces him that he has won, then he will also reduce the tariffs, as has just happened. If he no longer feels that he is being ripped off, then he yields. Until the moment when his feelings change.

To a person which such an obvious vulnerability, everything seems out of control. And so control is the only answer. Everyone is acting to rip me off

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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 9:39 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, now you're using Al Gore?

I can't tell you how seriously I take that!
Really!


BTW, I'm getting money-begging texts from Al.

Are you implying that Signym has superior judgment of people, ideas AND the news?



Superior to who? Al Gore?
Yep!

To you?
Double yep!

I don't confuse myself with lies, and I try to keep personal bias and pecuniary interest out of my analyses.


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Just asking because I get the impression you are a Trumptard. They don't do better than average. They are worse at everything, except for lying, bragging, and cheating. That's why the rotten behavior of Trumptards doesn't repel other Trumptards. The Trumptards I know act evil every day and don't see anything wrong. (The Trumptards side with Russia over Ukraine. They think that cutting USAID to starving people is efficient. They think tariffs will cause factories to be built in the US. They think white people can't get ahead because of blacks. Etc. Trumptards have an endless supply of stupid ideas roaming in their heads, which they are convinced are wisdom.) Trumptards are kind of like drunks who deny they are drunk and get angry at anyone who points to their huge consumption of alcohol. How you Trumptards squander your lives is NOT normal, but it is typical.
More inaccurate "mind reading"?

And you can hardly accuse others of evil, bc you're a lying sociopath who likes to kill people and who fantasizes that he's morally superior.


BTW I noticed WTI $ is dropping. Too bad for you.


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AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 9:52 PM

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And since when are major policy announcements by government officials made off the record to closed private-sector meetings?
I don't know. Ask Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 9:59 PM

Yanno SECOND, this could have been an interesting thread. An intelligent and relatively non-partisan discussion of Trump's policies: What he's done right, where he's gone wrong, what we think will result, what he could do otherwise.

Instead, you've done your usual burying of threads with tons and tons of lies and bullshit.

How about you take a break, STFU for a change, and let the grownups talk?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You don't know shit about anything, let alone me.

Worry about fixing yourself, because you are completely broken, just like your dead political party is.

The only reason Trump and you aren't as dead as Rush Limbaugh, the guy who said smoking doesn't kill and who died from lung cancer, is purely accidental, and that typical Democrats believe it is evil to kill evil people. Someday, the Democrats will realize that evil Trumptards must die screaming rather than be allowed hospice care and morphine to gently ease their passage into Hell.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Say hi to Kevin Drum for me. You're time is coming very soon.



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Wednesday, April 23, 2025 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno SECOND, this could have been an interesting thread. An intelligent and relatively non-partisan discussion of Trump's policies: What he's done right, where he's gone wrong, what we think will result, what he could do otherwise.

Instead, you've done your usual burying of threads with tons and tons of lies and bullshit.

How about you take a break, STFU for a change, and let the grownups talk?

Signym, google Nazi supporters in America. Those supporters stopped identifying themselves once Hitler declared war on America. As Trump supporters realize he is at war with America, they will pretend they never supported Trump. Unlike Hitler, Trump is not foolish enough to issue a declaration of war, making it easy to identify hostility to America.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Nazi+supporters+in+America

PUTIN

This is everything he could have dreamed of. America tearing itself apart, declaring trade war on its allies and everyone else except Russia, installing a Fox Weekend News host with a drinking problem to head the Defense Department, disbanding the teams tasked with combating Russian cyber aggression, degrading its ability to fight disease, attacking its globally admired colleges and universities, politicizing the Justice Department and the FBI, surrendering its “soft power” . . .

. . . taking a wrecking ball to our flawed but indispensable 250-year experiment with democracy, the rule of law, and “due process.”

Putin and his fellow kleptocrats are in seventh heaven.

https://andrewtobias.com/putin-yourself-in-his-shoes/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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