We are a Center-Right country.

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NIKI2

Friday, July 9, 2010 5:15 PM

Still surprised you find it so unusual that CNN should do something like that. I know it probably comes from watching too much FauxNews, where it would be a cold day in hell before they'd EVER say anything about the right, but it's no surprise to anyone else that CNN, and even MSNBC, have no problem critizing the left.

Show me one single example of FauxNews ever saying anything negative about their right-wing cronies. I dare you.

for your naiveté

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off

CHRISISALL

Friday, July 9, 2010 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Chris

I disagree. Obama is pretty left wing. It's just that folks on the left have decided that authoritarianism and corporatism is right wing because they don't like it, and so when a lot of stuff that they don't like comes with a democrat, they think it's right wing.

Dream

I disagree. Obama is pretty center. It's just that folks on the right have decided that moderation and universal health care is left wing because they don't like it, and so when a lot of stuff that they don't like comes with a democrat, they think it's left wing.

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, July 9, 2010 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

I disagree. Obama is pretty center.

Let' see how that looks:
Civilian trials in NYC for terrorists?... Center?
Mandated Govt. Healthcare despite huge opposition?...Center?
Scrapping NASA space programs for a new directive to reach out to Muslims?...Center?
Appointing self-proclaimed Communists like Van Jones and Anita Dunn to White House positions?...Center?
Appointing without Senate confirmation a new Director of Medicare who advocates and preaches redistribution of wealth?...Center?
Proposing punishing Cap & Trade(tax) burdens on businesses?...Center?
Increasing Capital Gains Tax?...Center?
Advocating amnesty for illegal aliens?...Center?
Suing Arizona over their law designed to protect their citizens?....Center?
Holder's DOJ dropping charges against Black Panther voter intimidation?...Center?
Spending a trillion dollars on a so-called stimulus that created no jobs other than theoretical "saved" jobs, or Govt Census jobs?...Center?
Going to Copenhagen Climate Summit that accomplished nothing, with Pelosi and 100+ Dem Congressmen and their families all on the Govt dime?...Center?
Not having the DOJ file lawsuits against Sanctuary Cities which vilolate Fed Law (their excuse for Arizona suit)?...Center?
Govt. takeover of Banks?...Center?
Govt. takeover of car companies & Student Loans?...Center?

Center of what Chris?.....Berkeley?

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, July 9, 2010 9:43 PM

See, such a discussion is kinda meaningless when rightwing folk keep shoving the goalposts further and further to the right and calling that the middle.

Especially when no one is willing to call bullshit on it, so... officially.
"Bullshit!"

You too DT, you know you're doin it, and on purpose, you wanted to see how long it'd take before someone called it, so stop the clock now, ok ?
A bit slick on how you slid it in from the side, but come on man, the same stunt, twice, and the second time as a deliberate piece of bait ?
Tsk, tsk, gotta do better than that, you old tomato-farmer!

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

KPO

Friday, July 9, 2010 9:59 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

I disagree. Obama is pretty center.

Let' see how that looks:
Civilian trials in NYC for terrorists?... Center?
Mandated Govt. Healthcare despite huge opposition?...Center?
Scrapping NASA space programs for a new directive to reach out to Muslims?...Center?
Appointing self-proclaimed Communists like Van Jones and Anita Dunn to White House positions?...Center?
Appointing without Senate confirmation a new Director of Medicare who advocates and preaches redistribution of wealth?...Center?
Proposing punishing Cap & Trade(tax) burdens on businesses?...Center?
Increasing Capital Gains Tax?...Center?
Advocating amnesty for illegal aliens?...Center?
Suing Arizona over their law designed to protect their citizens?....Center?
Holder's DOJ dropping charges against Black Panther voter intimidation?...Center?
Spending a trillion dollars on a so-called stimulus that created no jobs other than theoretical "saved" jobs, or Govt Census jobs?...Center?
Going to Copenhagen Climate Summit that accomplished nothing, with Pelosi and 100+ Dem Congressmen and their families all on the Govt dime?...Center?
Not having the DOJ file lawsuits against Sanctuary Cities which vilolate Fed Law (their excuse for Arizona suit)?...Center?
Govt. takeover of Banks?...Center?
Govt. takeover of car companies & Student Loans?...Center?

Center of what Chris?.....Berkeley?

Well I'm centre-left (to the extent that this scale means anything) and I agree with most of what Obama has done, including the list above (a lot of it's more down to pragmatism than idealogy). I'm certainly more in line with Obama than the more left-wing types on this board.

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Let' see how that looks:

Note that we both are looking through different lenses, my list of the same actions would sound different.

Heads should roll

CITIZEN

Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:43 PM

CNN is a fairly right wing news source, it's left of Fox News, but that's like saying the Guardian is right of soviet era Pravda.

The US political system is skewed massively to the right, centre-right in the us is solidly right wing anywhere else. The republicans would be a far right party anywhere else in the western world, while the democrats would be considered centre-right.

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NIKI2

Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:12 PM

That's about how I see it, Citizen...especially these days. Of course, as far as I'm concerned, it's been far right ever since Dumbya took office, and is only now center-rightISH, given the Tea Baggers are about as far right as you can GO.

That list also includes a bunch of things Dumbya did as well, so I guess that makes him a lefty...what a joke! Dumbya was for amnesty; every Prez snce and including REAGAN has said we need to get off oil dependeency, Obama's just actually trying to DO IT, and so forth. I agree with the majority of those thing and think the list is slanted waaaay right...comunists??

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off

JAYNEZTOWN

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, April 7, 2025 7:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Global leaders try to soften tariffs impact as Starmer warns 'world as we knew it has gone'
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/ce3qnyr7y94t?post=asset%3Af35605de-5b0d-
4caa-be31-0d4a3617c90a

I keep telling everyone...

The world you thought you were living in 6 months ago is gone.

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