The Worst Recession in 50 Years
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UPDATED: Monday, March 10, 2025 18:00
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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Are you still calling yourself a non-liberal, or non-socialist, or non-fascist, or non-Nazi, or conservative, or whatever it is you deluded yourself into thinking?
Actually, I've never said I wasn't a liberal. Others who argue against you have stated, quite factually, that they don't fall into the category of liberal, but some other category that also happens to disagree with you. It's interesting to me that you lump liberals, fascists, Nazis, and socialists all together as the same thing, when clearly they are not. Knowing that's how you think clears up a great deal to me.
Let me try to explain something to you:
The United States is a capitalist/socialist nation. Oh yes, it is. Our education system, by and large, is socialized. There's private school as well, but a large percentage of schools are government run and government funded through the use of taxes. This is a very simple and widely-known fact that you seem to overlook on a regular basis when you're bleating about the evils of socialism. (Not that I think the education system is perfect, but that's a different can of worms of another day.) Likewise, our transportation system is socialized, almost entirely. Roads are paid for by the government, through the use of taxes. Public transportation, by its very definition, is paid for largely by the city government, with a little help from those who actually use it in the form of a small fare. These are both prominent socialized aspects to the capitalist society. Now, it's definitely important to do it right, but socialized things are not inherently evil. Yet any time the concept of socialized medicine is even mentioned, there's this segment of the population that starts screaming like their feet are being tickled by the fires of hell. I don't understand this at all. You already live in a place where the socialized can coexist peacefully with other options, and by and large not interfere with your precious capitalist companies. So why are you screaming like this is some great and fearful unknown? And why do you think that you will not take any benefit from it yourself? Is it only us crazy liberals who will be allowed to take advantage of doctor visits paid for by the state? Regular free dental care? Available emergency care in all places for all persons? What, do you never get sick or have cavities or break your thumb trying to put up a shelf in your garage? Do you never have car accidents or children with a terrible fever? C'mon.
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RiverDancer, I think JSF has you confused with River6213. Or maybe he just has you confused with the voices in his head...
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And ya know, Rappy, I can just as easily PROVE that John McCain was responsible for the whole collapse.
After all, as late as September of 2008, while the economy was collapsing around his head, he said, and I quote:
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The fundamentals of our economy are strong.
Furthermore, just a few weeks prior to that, his campaign's senior economic advisor, some guy named Phil Gramm, had sad that we were absolutely NOT in a recession, but that we were just a bunch of whiners.
Those two events caused confidence to crumble, and those two events all by themselves caused the economy to hiccup, cough, choke, collapse, and turn blue.
Hey, it makes exactly as much sense and has exactly as much basis in fact as YOUR hypothesis...
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Originally posted by RiverDancer:Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Are you still calling yourself a non-liberal, or non-socialist, or non-fascist, or non-Nazi, or conservative, or whatever it is you deluded yourself into thinking?
Actually, I've never said I wasn't a liberal. Others who argue against you have stated, quite factually, that they don't fall into the category of liberal, but some other category that also happens to disagree with you. It's interesting to me that you lump liberals, fascists, Nazis, and socialists all together as the same thing, when clearly they are not. Knowing that's how you think clears up a great deal to me.
Let me try to explain something to you:
The United States is a capitalist/socialist nation. Oh yes, it is. Our education system, by and large, is socialized. There's private school as well, but a large percentage of schools are government run and government funded through the use of taxes. This is a very simple and widely-known fact that you seem to overlook on a regular basis when you're bleating about the evils of socialism. (Not that I think the education system is perfect, but that's a different can of worms of another day.) Likewise, our transportation system is socialized, almost entirely. Roads are paid for by the government, through the use of taxes. Public transportation, by its very definition, is paid for largely by the city government, with a little help from those who actually use it in the form of a small fare. These are both prominent socialized aspects to the capitalist society. Now, it's definitely important to do it right, but socialized things are not inherently evil. Yet any time the concept of socialized medicine is even mentioned, there's this segment of the population that starts screaming like their feet are being tickled by the fires of hell. I don't understand this at all. You already live in a place where the socialized can coexist peacefully with other options, and by and large not interfere with your precious capitalist companies. So why are you screaming like this is some great and fearful unknown? And why do you think that you will not take any benefit from it yourself? Is it only us crazy liberals who will be allowed to take advantage of doctor visits paid for by the state? Regular free dental care? Available emergency care in all places for all persons? What, do you never get sick or have cavities or break your thumb trying to put up a shelf in your garage? Do you never have car accidents or children with a terrible fever? C'mon.
RiverDancer, that was beautiful. Thanks.
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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