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Wednesday, March 5, 2025 8:12 PM

What Republicans (and anyone else) who support Trump need to know

THE SERIOUS ANSWER: Here’s what the majority of anti-Trump voters honestly feel about Trump supporters en masse:

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought “Fine.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/10/tru
mp-university-settlement-judge-finalized/502387002
/

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, “Okay.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hotel-paid-millions-in-fines-for-u
npaid-work


That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, “No problem.”
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexua
l-misconduct/story?id=51956410


That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, “Not an issue.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/23/president-dona
ld-trump-could-shoot-someone-without-prosecution/4073405002
/

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn’t care, you exclaimed, “He sure knows me.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/23/president-dona
ld-trump-could-shoot-someone-without-prosecution/4073405002
/

That when you heard him relating a story of an elderly guest of his country club, an 80-year-old man, who fell off a stage and hit his head, to Trump replied: “‘Oh my God, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away. I couldn’t — you know, he was right in front of me, and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him. He was bleeding all over the place. And I felt terrible, because it was a beautiful white marble floor, and now it had changed color. Became very red.” You said, “That’s cool!”
https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-howard-stern-story

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-criticized
-after-he-appears-mock-reporter-serge-kovaleski-n470016


When you heard him brag that he doesn’t read books, you said, “Well, who has time?”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/americas-first-po
st-text-president/549794
/

When the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn’t commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, “That makes sense.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/19/what-trump-has
-said-central-park-five/1501321001
/

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, “Yes!”
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-campaign-protests-2016031
3-story.html


When you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man’s coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, “What a great guy!”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-orders-proteste
r-s-coat-is-confiscated-and-he-is-sent-into-the-cold-a6802756.html


That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, “Thumbs up!”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-cant-trump-ju
st-condemn-nazis/567320
/

When you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, “That’s the way I want my President to be.”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-insult-foreign-countries-leaders_
n_59dd2769e4b0b26332e76d57


That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they’re supposed to be regulating and you have said, “What a genius!”
https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/12/29/138-trump-policy-chan
ges-2017-000603
/

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as P

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:29 AM

How Trump’s Tariffs Will Savage the Economy
This is going to hurt.

By Nitish Pahwa | March 05, 2025 6:06 PM

https://slate.com/technology/2025/03/trump-tariffs-explained-mexico-ca
nada-china-prices-rise.html


It’s a mess, not least because this fickle administration is claiming to be “open” to further exemptions, which could change everything on a whim. But what does it all mean for you, the humble consumer caught up in this trade-war whirlwind even though you’ve long tired of inflation and the fact that Trump take egg? We’ll break it all down.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
What Republicans (and anyone else) who support Trump need to know

THE SERIOUS ANSWER: Here’s what the majority of anti-Trump voters honestly feel about Trump supporters en masse:



Here is what YOU need to know.

Nobody gives one single fuck what you (and anyone else) like you think about anything anymore.

That ship sailed for a world that existed 6 months ago but no longer exists today.

Maybe had you or any body in the Media listened to THE FUCKING MAJORITY on issues instead of pushing your America-Last, racist agenda as the things that people believed in when none of it were true... Or maybe if you weren't locking people away in their houses and forcing them to get jabs if they wanted to feed their families, we might have some sympathy for you now. But you didn't and we don't.

Have fun spending the next 4 years cheering for the destruction of America like the gutter trash that represents you.

Go. Fuck. Yourself.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:56 AM

In just five days, Trump has set the country back nearly 100 years

The president’s new slogan might as well be “We were better off 95 years ago than we are today.”

By Dana Milbank | March 4, 2025 at 11:36 p.m. EST

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/04/trump-tariffs-ukrai
ne-speech-congress-backward
/

With a modesty we have come to expect of him, President Donald Trump informed Congress on Tuesday night that he had already ushered in “the greatest and most successful era in the history of our country.” He told the assembled lawmakers that he “accomplished more in 43 days than most administrations accomplished in four or eight years.”

Armed with a portfolio of fabricated statistics, Trump judged that “the first month of our presidency is the most successful in the history of our nation — and what makes it even more impressive is that you know who No. 2 is? George Washington.”

Republican lawmakers laughed, whooped and cheered.

Usually, such talk from Trump is just bravado. But let us give credit where it is due: Trump has made history. In fact, it’s not much of an exaggeration to say that, over the course of the past five days, he has set the United States back 100 years.

Trump on Monday implemented the largest tariff increase since 1930, abruptly reversing an era of liberalized trade that has prevailed since the end of the Second World War. He launched this trade war just three days after dealing an equally severe blow to the postwar security order that has maintained prosperity and freedom for 80 years. Trump’s ambush of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office, followed by the cessation of U.S. military aid to the outgunned nation, has left allies reeling and Moscow exulting. The Kremlin’s spokesman proclaimed that Trump is “rapidly changing all foreign policy configurations” in a way that “largely aligns with our vision.”

And our erstwhile friends? “The United States launched a trade war against Canada, its closest partner and ally, their closest friend,” Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Tuesday. “At the same time, they’re talking about working positively with Russia, appeasing Vladimir Putin: a lying, murderous dictator. Make that make sense.”

It makes sense only if, against all evidence, you believe, as Trump apparently does, that Americans were better off 95 years ago than they are today.

We’re apparently going to have to relearn that lesson the hard way. The blizzard of executive orders that Trump has issued, though constitutionally alarming, can be rescinded by a future president. Elon Musk’s wanton sabotage of federal agencies and the federal workforce, though hugely damaging, can be repaired over time. But there is no easy fix for Trump’s smashing of the security and trade arrangements that have kept us safe and free for generations.

“We’re certainly not in the postwar world anymore,” Douglas Irwin, a Dartmouth College economist and fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, tells me. He calculates that Trump’s hike in tariffs is the largest since the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 accelerated the nation’s slide into the Great Depression. And Trump’s current tariffs, which in Irwin’s calculation affect imports worth about 4.8 percent of gross domestic product, will have an even greater impact on the economy than did Smoot-Hawley, which affected imports worth 1.4 percent of GDP, and the McKinley administration’s tariffs during the 1890s, which affected imports worth 2.7 percent of GDP (and which also were followed by a prolonged depression).

Irwin figures the current tariffs “are likely to be much more disruptive” than those historical cases because the U.S. economy is much more dependent now on “intermediate goods” — meaning materials such as auto parts, needed by American businesses to make finished goods. Trump has brought the average tariff on total imports to 10 percent, a level not seen since 1943, in Irwin’s analysis.

Late Tuesday, after stocks plunged

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
In just five days, Trump has set the country back nearly 100 years

The president’s new slogan might as well be “We were better off 95 years ago than we are today.”

By Dana Milbank | March 4, 2025 at 11:36 p.m. EST

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/04/trump-tariffs-ukrai
ne-speech-congress-backward/




Wow. An opinion piece by a Yale Graduate NeoCon piece of trash.

You've still got Liz Cheney's cock in your mouth, huh?


SPOILER ALERT: If your plan on being less biased going forward is to insert a bunch of warmongering NeoCon garbage that hates Trump as much as you've programmed your low-IQ, built-in-reader base to, Jeff Bezos, your paper is still going to fail without the Government propping it up.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:09 AM

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The United States pursued a protectionist policy from the beginning of the 19th century until the middle of the 20th century. Between 1861 and 1933, they had one of the highest average tariff rates on manufactured imports in the world

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The new government needed a way to collect taxes from all the states that was easy to enforce and had only a nominal cost to the average citizen. The Tariff Act of 1789 was the second bill signed by President George Washington imposing a tariff of about 5% on nearly all imports, with a few exceptions

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Paul Bairoch called the U.S. “the mother country and bastion of modern protectionism.”
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In Report on Manufactures, which is considered the first text to express modern protectionist theory, Alexander Hamilton argued that if a country wished to develop a new activity on its soil, it would have to temporarily protect it. According to him, this protection against foreign producers could take the form of import duties or, in rare cases, prohibition of imports. He called for customs barriers to allow American industrial development and to help protect infant industries, including bounties (subsidies) derived in part from those tariffs. He also believed that duties on raw materials should be generally low.[14] Hamilton argued that despite an initial "increase of price" caused by regulations that control foreign competition, once a "domestic manufacture has attained to perfection... it invariably becomes cheaper".[12]

In this report, Hamilton also proposed export bans on major raw materials, tariff reductions on industrial inputs, pricing and patenting of inventions, regulation of product standards and development of financial and transportation infrastructure.

Hamilton was the first to use the term "infant industries" and to introduce it to the forefront of economic thinking. He believed that political independence was predicated upon economic independence. Increasing the domestic supply of manufactured goods, particularly war materials, was seen as an issue of national security. And he feared that Britain's policy towards the colonies would condemn the United States to be only producers of agricultural products and raw materials.[13][12]

Britain initially did not want to industrialize the American colonies, and implemented policies to that effect (for example, banning high value-added manufacturing activities). Under British [AND GLOBALIST] rule, America was denied the use of tariffs to protect its new industries. Thus, the American Revolution was, to some extent, a war against this policy, in which the commercial elite of the colonies rebelled against being forced to play a lesser role in the emerging Atlantic economy. This explains why, after independence, the Tariff Act of 1789 was the second bill of the Republic signed by President Washington allowing Congress to impose a fixed tariff of 5% on all imports, with a few exceptions.[15]

Between 1792 and the war with Britain in 1812, the average tariff level remained around 12.5%, which was too low to encourage consumers to buy domestic products and thus support emerging American industries. When the Anglo-American War of 1812 broke out, all rates doubled to an average of 25% to account for increased government spending. The war paved the way for new industries by disrupting manufacturing imports from the UK and the rest of Europe. A major policy shift occurred in 1816, when American manufacturers who had benefited from the tariffs lobbied to retain them. New legislation was introduced to keep tariffs at the same levels —especially protected were cotton, woolen, and iron goods.[16] The average rate rose to 35% in 1816. The public agreed, and by 1820, the average rate in the U.S. had risen to 40%. Between 1816 and the end of World War II, the U.S. had one of the highest average import tariffs on manufactured goods in the world.

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From 1871 to 1913,

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:12 AM

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“So, going forward, what country would ever sign a trade agreement with the United States


How's this, SECOND?

"We don't want no stinkin' trade agreements."

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"Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:15 AM

The definition of "foreign aid":


Where poor people in rich countries give money to rich people in poor countries.

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"Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 8:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The definition of "foreign aid":


Where poor people in rich countries give money to rich people in poor countries.



Most accurate thing I've heard today.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 8:40 AM

Now, AFA recessions and depressions: NOT CAUSED BY TARIFFS.

They're caused by excess profits being cycled out of the hands of workers...i.e. consumers .... causing an imbalance between production (too much) and demand (not enough).

Keynes' answer to that was for government to print money and toss it into the economy, he didn't care where. He opined that government splurging would raise "animal spirits" and reset general outlook to optimism. If $ is directed at the wealthy it's called "trickle down" which has NEVER worked.

Roosevelt's answer was a more targeted. He called it "pump priming": directing money into the hands of the everyday person, who would more likely spend it on necessities, thereby increasing demand, instead of saving it or spending it on an extravagance.

And it worked, to a fashion, until a Republican Congress grew uneasy about the deficit and put a crimp in the program. Then WWII came along, and all fiscal caution was thrown to the wind, and people were fully engaged making supplies and weapons for war.

The CURRENT answer is to flood the world with American debt. Government debt. Corporate debt. Financial debt. Consumer debt. Trade debt. Keep consumption going even as wealthy inequality skyrockets.

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If you want an economy that doesn't get whipsawed by depression, it needs to be approximately balanced between supply and demand, which means money needs to be cycled back to the laborer instead of bloating an already engorged elite.

If you want an economy not bedeviled by inflation, it means not expanding the money supply unless/ until production is increased. (And if you need to raise production, you don't just puke government money everywhere, you need targeted investment.)

If you want a financial system not subject to breakdown, raise banking reserves and once again separate retail from investment banking.

And if you want your currency to be respected around the world, don't rely on a mountain of trade and fiscal debt. Have products to trade that prople want to buy.

It's not fucking rocket science. Finacialists and industrialists like to muddy the waters simply to allow them to continue their depredations. It's their depredations that cause the problems, and there's no fix for it but to FIX IT.

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"Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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