Some Covid-19 thoughts
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UPDATED: Monday, September 29, 2025 18:59
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Originally posted by THG:
It's over, the facts are in and the vacene was a tremendous success.
Oh. I get it now. Thanks Ted.
It's a vacene.
Not a vaccine.
It certainly wasn't a vaccine. I don't know what a vacene is, but maybe you have a point there.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
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Ron DeSantis: Why Did "Mind-Your-Own-Business" Tim Walz Set Up A Snitch Hotline During Covid?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/08/08/desantis_walz_is_sa
ying_mind_your_own_business_but_he_set_up_a_snitch_hotline_during_covid.html
"Then why did you set up a snitch hotline for neighbors to report their neighbors for violating your draconian Covid restrictions?" DeSantis wondered. "That's not minding your own damn business. That's government overreach."
That's a good question, Ron. We've all heard the audio recording of that hotline over the last 24 hours.
Pretty fucking Orwellian if you ask me.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
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Keir Starmer makes promise to Covid families as ministers blamed for deaths
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-keir-starmer-makes-pro
mise-33273607
The Covid Winners or 'Losers'
Most Cases
1USA
2India
3France
4Germany
5Brazil
Most Death
1USA
2Brazil
3India
4Russia
5Mexico
Most Recovered
1USA
2Brazil
3Russia
4Spain
5Australia
Most percent Dead per million of population
1Peru
2Bulgaria
3Hungary
4Bosnia and Herzegovina
5North Macedonia
Least dead, far away islands like Saint Helena, Falkland Islands which the Argentine Spanish once tried to claim and call it Islas Malvinas, isolated regions like the Vatican City within Rome Italy etc
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Did the CDC recommend school closures? NO!
By Kevin Drum | November 24, 2024 – 6:30 pm
In a word, no. Even at the very beginning of the pandemic, the CDC said only that schools might want to close depending on local transmission rates and known outbreaks—but even then said there was little evidence it helped more generally. After that they became positively evangelistic in their recommendations for schools to stay open (but to do it safely).
Here are excerpts from four CDC documents published during the first year of COVID. Not media or talking head perspectives. These are the CDC's actual words.
March 12, 2020: "There is a role for school closure" in response to outbreaks of COVID. However:
Short to medium closures do not impact the epi curve of COVID-19 or available health care measures (e.g., hospitalizations).... Other mitigation efforts (e.g., handwashing, home isolation) have more impact on both spread of disease and health care measures. In other countries, those places who closed school (e.g., Hong Kong) have not had more success in reducing spread than those that did not (e.g., Singapore).
July 23, 2020: “It is critically important for our public health to open schools this fall,” said CDC Director Dr. Robert R. Redfield. “The CDC resources released today will help parents, teachers and administrators make practical, safety-focused decisions as this school year begins.”... The resources and tools made available today support how to open schools safely by promoting behaviors that prevent spread, [etc.].
August 1, 2020: While opening schools—like opening any building or facility—does pose a risk for the spread of COVID-19, there are many reasons why opening schools in the fall of 2020 for in-person instruction is important.
• Schools play a critical role in the wellbeing of communities
• Schools provide critical instruction and academic support
• Social and emotional health of students can be enhanced through schools
• Mental health of students can be fostered through school supports and services
• Continuity of other special services is important for student success
February 12, 2021: K–12 schools should be the last settings to close after all other mitigation measures in the community have been employed, and the first to reopen when they can do so safely. Schools should be prioritized for reopening and remaining open for in-person instruction over nonessential businesses and activities.
https://jabberwocking.com/did-the-cdc-recommend-school-closures/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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If the CDC didn’t close schools during COVID, who did?
By Kevin Drum | November 25, 2024 – 9:21 am
https://jabberwocking.com/if-the-cdc-didnt-close-schools-during-covid-
who-did/
Yesterday I posted a brief item noting that the CDC never recommended that schools be closed during COVID. In fact, by July 2020, shortly before the new school year was about to start, they were strongly recommending that schools open in the fall.
So why did so many schools close? The answer is that the decisions were mostly made by states and local school districts, partly based on CDC guidance about how to reopen safely. To that extent the CDC did play a role, though probably one that even its critics wouldn't take issue with. Their safety guidance was generally pretty solid.
More important was probably public opinion. It's easy to forget what things were like when COVID was new, but people were scared and most parents didn't want schools to reopen quickly. Here's a KFF poll from July 2020, just before the start of the new school year:
Of the people polled, 63% wanted to open schools later rather than sooner. 71% said schools needed more resources and weren't ready to open. And 70% were worried their child would get COVID if they returned to school.
The results leaned even more heavily toward closure among low-income parents—which makes sense since they were most likely to live in areas where schools were likely to have trouble reopening safely.
Other polls at the same time showed similar results. In one poll, parents favored closure over reopening by 54-36%. In an EdChoice poll, 69% said they'd enroll their kids in distance learning if their school offered it. In an Ipsos poll, only 16% favored full reopening. An S360 poll gave the same result in California.
Most polls also showed noticeable differences between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats consistently took COVID more seriously and were more likely to favor keeping schools closed, so it's no surprise that Democratic states and cities were the most likely to close schools. They were doing what their constituents wanted.
And despite what we all think now, these policies were relatively popular at the time. An Ipsos poll in late 2021, after a year of COVID and closures, showed that 75% of parents felt their local schools had done a pretty good job dealing with the pandemic:
The moral of all this is not to let your memory play tricks on you. It might seem obvious now that schools should have remained open, but parents at the time didn't all agree. Most of them were worried about possible learning loss—they weren't naive about that—but still favored caution about sending their kids back to classrooms. Under the circumstances, it's hardly surprising that local school boards did what the parents wanted.
POSTSCRIPT: As it happens, I was skeptical of school closings from the start. But even now it's not an open-and-shut case. The danger of sending kids back to school was probably small, but the evidence suggests the ill effects of closing schools was probably small too. There was significant learning loss, but it doesn't appear to be related to school closures. Everyone suffered equally, whether they attended classes in person or stayed home. See here, here, and here. It was something more broadly about the pandemic that caused learning loss, not distance learning.
In other words, a cost-benefit analysis of school closures is tricky even now.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Stupid people won't understand, just how smart those helping us during COVID are; and how stupid they are for fighting and arguing with them.
T 
Neil & Malcolm Gladwell Explore What Shapes Our Society
Gladwell shares the origins of The Tipping Point and its new sequel, Revenge of the Tipping Point, sparked by his fascination with epidemiology and crime in 1980s New York. How do social problems spread like viruses? Why do some people—or places—become "superspreaders" of everything from ideas to violence? We uncover the surprising role of environmental contagion in shaping societies and ask whether AI could revolutionize public health and policing.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Don't project your COVID panic onto me.
I'd love to see you post this again in two weeks. Oh yeah, your boy Trump has fucked up big time.
tick tock
T
Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
I'd love to discuss this with ya but, oh yeah, you died during all of this.
T
Dear Science Deniers
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Dear Science Deniers
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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Google gives fresh proof the Biden admin was a censorship machine
https://nypost.com/2025/09/24/opinion/google-gives-fresh-proof-biden-a
dmin-was-a-censorship-machine/
Trump NYT Libel Judge Crossed Biden on Vaccines, Cruise Ship Ban
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/trump-nyt-libel-judge-crosse
d-biden-on-vaccines-cruise-ship-ban
YouTube Gives the Right Wing What it Wants, Says Biden Admin ‘Pressed’ it to Remove Content
https://gizmodo.com/youtube-gives-the-right-wing-what-it-wants-says-bi
den-admin-pressed-it-to-remove-content-2000662910
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