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Monday, February 24, 2025 12:19 AM

Trump Uses Lies to Lay the Groundwork for Radical Change

By Peter Baker who is covering his sixth presidency and wrote a book about President Trump’s first term. He reported from Washington.

Feb. 23, 2025, 10:36 a.m. ET

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/23/us/politics/trump-alternative-reali
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In Trump’s Alternate Reality, Lies and Distortions Drive Change

Condoms for Gaza? Ukraine started the war with Russia? The president’s manipulations of the truth lay the groundwork for radical change.

The United States sent $50 million in condoms to Hamas. Diversity programs caused a plane crash. China controls the Panama Canal. Ukraine started the war with Russia.

Except, no. None of that is true. Not that it stops President Trump. In the first month since he returned to power, he has demonstrated once again a brazen willingness to advance distortions, conspiracy theories and outright lies to justify major policy decisions.

Mr. Trump has long been unfettered by truth when it comes to boasting about his record and tearing down his enemies. But what were dubbed “alternative facts” in his first term have quickly become a whole alternative reality in his second to lay the groundwork for radical change as he moves to aggressively reshape America and the world.

If the U.S. Agency for International Development is stupid enough to send prophylactics to a Palestinian terrorist group in Gaza, he claims, then it deserves to be dismantled. If recruiting people other than white men to work in the airline sector compromises safety, such programs should be eliminated. If China controls the strategic passage through the continent, the United States should take it back. If Ukraine is the aggressor, it should make concessions to Moscow.

“One of the biggest presidential powers that Trump has deployed is the ability to shape his own narrative,” said Julian E. Zelizer, a Princeton history professor and editor of a book of essays about Mr. Trump’s first term. “We have seen repeatedly how President Trump creates his own reality to legitimate his actions and simultaneously discredit warnings about his decisions.”

Taking his real-estate hucksterism and reality-show storytelling into politics, Mr. Trump has for years succeeded in selling his version of events. The world according to Mr. Trump is one where he is a master of every challenge and any failure is someone else’s fault.

He claimed to have built the greatest economy in history during his first term so many times that even some of his critics came to accept that it was better than it really was. He dismissed intelligence reports that Russia intervened in the 2016 elections on his behalf so often that many supporters accepted his denial.

Most significantly, Mr. Trump has waged a four-year campaign to persuade Americans that he did not lose the 2020 election when in fact he did, making one false assertion of widespread fraud after another that would all be debunked yet still leave most Republicans convinced it was stolen, according to polls.

At the same time, he has recast the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol by supporters trying to stop the transfer of power from a “heinous attack,” as he originally termed it, to a “day of love,” as he now calls it. This revised interpretation helped him rationalize pardoning nearly 1,600 people who were charged, including many who had beaten police officers.

“Trump is a highly skilled narrator and propagandist,” said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, author of “Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present” and a historian at New York University who specializes in fascism and authoritarianism. “Actually he is one of the most skilled propagandists in history.”

Dr. Ben-Ghiat said what made Mr. Trump’s “easily refutable lie” about the 2020 election so remarkable was that he was “working not in a one-party state or authoritarian context with a controlled media, but in a totally open society with a free press.”

But she and other scholars said some of Mr. Trump’s themes resemble those seen in authoritarian states. “The kind of propaganda and

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Monday, February 24, 2025 1:03 AM

Ex-Russian Intel Agent: KGB Recruited Trump

As Donald Trump, Elon Musk and the Republican party spew Russian misinformation daily, a former Russian intelligence agent says the KGB Recruited Trump in the 1980s.

https://crooksandliars.com/2025/02/ex-russian-intel-agent-kgb-recruite
d-trump


February 22, 2025

Many Americans were roasted for observing that Donald Trump acted like a Russian agent. Now a former Russian intelligence agent confirms what many suspected: Trump is a Russian plant recruited by the KGB since the 1980s. Former Russian agent Alnur Mussayev alleged Trump was given the codename “Krasnov.”

The Masks Came Off This Week

But after this week, it's hard to deny that America's president and likely most of the Republican party are compromised. This week Trump and Rubio abandoned Ukraine while Vance blew up the 80-year alliance with European allies in Munich.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, February 24, 2025 1:07 AM



You are so pathetic.

How long are you planning to gnash and moan in your death throes?

Your party is dead. The world you thought you were living in 6 months ago doesn't exist.

And not one single person is buying any of your Russia crap in 2025.

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Monday, February 24, 2025 2:24 AM

Also, Fuck Ukraine.

I've said that from DAY ONE.

If I'm a Russian asset, I'm the lowest paid asset anyone has ever had since I don't have any income.

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Monday, February 24, 2025 2:30 AM

SECOND, you blew your credibility with the "Steele dossier".

Recycling that crap?

So stupid. Cringeworthy, even.

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Monday, February 24, 2025 2:38 AM

‘Chainsaw economics,’ now deployed by Musk, drove more than 50% of Argentinians into poverty

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2025/02/22/chainsaw-economics-now-dep
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The music was booming, the ballroom was packed, and Elon Musk was onstage, waving a chain saw in the air.

I had already seen other surreal sights at the Conservative Political Action Conference — a man with a cat on his shoulder, freshly pardoned Proud Boys roaming around — but it was clear that this would be one of the indelible images of the annual MAGA confab.

Musk roared — or was he just making a chainsaw noise? This, he said, was the chainsaw he was taking to the bureaucracy. “Chain saw,” he repeated for effect. He did not turn it on.

It was a gift from Javier Milei, the far-right Argentine president who stormed to power in 2023 and who has drawn effusive, at times almost graphic, praise from Musk.

The episode showed how Musk doesn’t just cozy up to right-wing leaders — he also seems to copy them.

In 2022, Milei, an economist and former media personality, released a “chain saw plan” that would have cut public spending and sharply reduced the number of ministries in Argentina’s government. Milei showed up to campaign rallies with a functioning chain saw — and his supporters followed suit with replicas — that represented his demonization of a group he called “the political caste.”

Once Milei took office, Musk showered him with online compliments and talked business with him behind closed doors, as my colleagues wrote last year. He has done the same with right-wing leaders in India and Brazil, in a convenient marriage of his political beliefs and his desire to make more money for his companies.

And Musk has made a point of talking up Milei’s approach to government cuts, calling them “awesome” in a January post on X and praising Milei for “deleting entire departments.” He’s now calling for the United States government to do the same.

In December, CNN reported:

Javier Milei swept to power in Argentina a year ago on a ticket to tackle chronic hyperinflation and overhaul the long-suffering economy. In one regard — slashing the size of the state — he has proven so successful that Donald Trump’s government efficiency tsars want to replicate his approach.

Under the chainsaw-wielding libertarian economist, the government has posted rare consecutive monthly budget surpluses and inflation has fallen sharply — “better-than-expected results,” according to the International Monetary Fund.

During a meeting with Milei at the Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida last month, Trump said Milei had done “a fantastic job” as president.

Investors have also cheered the changes in Argentina: Its flagship Merval stock index, which tracks around two dozen of the country’s most valuable listed companies, has soared almost 140% this year.

But the budget cuts have come at a cost to ordinary Argentines. The poverty rate has jumped above 50% from an already high level, the economy, the third largest in Latin America, has slid even deeper into recession and unemployment is on the rise.

Much more at https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2025/02/22/chainsaw-economics-now-dep
loyed-by-musk-drove-more-than-50-of-argentinians-into-poverty
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, February 24, 2025 2:56 AM

So, been thinking about where America goes from here.

First of all, this isn't a revolution, it's a power struggle between The Industrialists and The Globalist Financiers, who have been in power since Bill Clinton.

The power structure as it was, was rotten. It was ready to topple on its own, but the war against Russia ... outcome depending on sheer industrial power ... provided the impetus to push it over.

Trump is a disruptor. Musk is a disruptor. This is a time of destruction. Things will be destroyed with a bulldozer, not a scalpel. Mistakes will be made. Parasites will flee the DC rubble.

Not now. But at some point, there will be a time of reconstruction. But the world in which America rebuilds won't be anything like the world of 20, 30, or 80 years ago.

There needs to be a new party that represents us people, not the financier oligarchs or the MAGA oligarchs.



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Monday, February 24, 2025 4:09 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, been thinking about where America goes from here.

First of all, this isn't a revolution, it's a power struggle between The Industrialists and The Globalist Financiers, who have been in power since Bill Clinton.

The power structure as it was, was rotten. It was ready to topple on its own, but the war against Russia ... outcome depending on sheer industrial power ... provided the impetus to push it over.

Trump is a disruptor. Musk is a disruptor. This is a time of destruction. Things will be destroyed with a bulldozer, not a scalpel. Mistakes will be made. Parasites will flee the DC rubble.

Not now. But at some point, there will be a time of reconstruction. But the world in which America rebuilds won't be anything like the world of 20, 30, or 80 years ago.

There needs to be a new party that represents us people, not the financier oligarchs or the MAGA oligarchs.



I think we've already got it, Sigs. It's mostly made up of the ex-Democrats that we were talking about just the other day.


And I don't believe that Trump is working for anybody other than himself. I know it's good for him, and he knows that at least some of us are aware of that.

Is he going to reshape America to your image or to my image of what we want it to be. Simply stated, no. He won't. He's going to reshape it in the image that he wants it to be now. We don't have any power outside of our vote. Maybe I shouldn't speak for you, but I have a very small circle of influence and no money, so I know I don't have any power. We've got to just hope that there's plenty of overlap of what we wanted and what ends up happening. More good things come of it all than bad things, and hopefully any of the bad things end up being inconveniences when held up to all of the actual good that gets done.

So far, I believe there is. Though a few things we've discussed before send up red flags and have been on my radar, I can't let those take away from all the good that is being done... at least right now.

At the end of the day I'm always going to come at all of this from the perspective of a voluntary outsider. Until the day that we live in a Perfect World, there's never a reason to align fully with Power.


I get daily reminders from the two idiots here that the Democratic Party is still kicking and screaming and making a huge fuss as it dies off, and until they shut up that's always going to remain a problem.

But I'm doing my best to look at everything that's happening and pointing out things that I'm not crazy about or I just don't agree with.

I'd argue that since what is going on now exists so far out of the realm of the status quo we've been living in for decades that everyone should be paying more attention right now than they've ever paid attention before.

And from what I can tell, they're being very transparent and open about everything they've been doing so far. That and they've welcomed, and even challenged, The People to keep tabs on them and to speak out when they find anything that looks shady.


Maybe it's all just a grift and a game like everything else is, but the current administration and the team behind the President in 2025 speak to us as if they're actually working with us and listening to what we have to say.

I don't recall a time in my life that this ever happened in America, and I don't even think it was possible in the days before the internet, so I doubt it's ever been the case before. It certainly wasn't the case during the former administration that laid down mandates and threats and censored anyone who didn't mindlessly parrot their message of the day.

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Monday, February 24, 2025 4:23 AM

The closest analogy I can think of is 1776. Many FF were oligarchs in their own right, fighting against the tyranny of King George, the monopoly of the East India Company, and the restrictions against westward expansion required by the British/ French detente.



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Monday, February 24, 2025 5:10 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The closest analogy I can think of is 1776. Many FF were oligarchs in their own right, fighting against the tyranny of King George, the monopoly of the East India Company, and the restrictions against westward expansion required by the British/ French detente.



Yeah.

And as much of a Don't Tread on Me type as I am, I don't live in a bubble and I don't have any real power to change anything outside of my own habits and how I carry myself.

I will never be an oligarch. Even if I won a Billion Dollar Powerball that wouldn't change anything. It's a playing field that's a lot older than I am, and as long as that incoming asteroid doesn't smash into our moon, I suspect that it's going to be around for a long time after I'm gone.

People are getting a huge glimpse into the power structure right now.

Unless all of this is just a bunch of theater that's been orchestrated so well that it's even fooled all of us skeptics, we have to admit that we unleashed a fury here.

One that I, personally, am very much all about.

But that being said... I'm not going to sit here and tell anyone that everything's going to be alright, let alone give any real strong predictions about what everything is going to look like 4 years from now.

I ain't never seen this movie before.

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