Do you feel like the winds of change are blowing today too?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, what I am doing is very simple, but you have no true sense of what it is, do you?
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Why are you looking for the government to make your life better, Second?
Nobody is going to help you except yourself.
You're a idiot and a chronic liar. Nobody cares what you think you are doing. Go call your mom and tell her about it.
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Americans sharply divided over Trump’s embrace of Putin
While US allies are alarmed at changing loyalties, ordinary Americans are starkly divided on the president’s shift away from Ukraine and Europe
By Joan E Greve in Washington | Sat 22 Feb 2025 03.01 EST
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/22/trump-putin-friendshipQuote:
In at least one case Trump’s approach to Putin has already cost him a vote: a man from Florida who spoke on condition of anonymity and said he supported Trump in 2016 and 2020 – but not 2024, precisely because he feared the president was alienating allies at a time when the US needs them most.
Yeah. Okay Joan.
You couldn't write better fake dialog than this for your fake Floridian?
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“Trump has some sort of infatuation with Putin,” the voter said. “He doesn’t seem to understand that Putin will lie, cheat and do anything to control Russia and win internationally at any cost. Putin wants to rule all of Europe and wouldn’t stop there.”
That is not something that a real person says. That is just 3 sentences you will hear on MSNBC 150 times every evening.
You don't have to keep doing this now Joan. That USAID money is never coming back to you.
Fuck Ukraine.
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It's a tornado, and it's going to be a wild ride.
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It's a tornado, and it's going to be a wild ride.
You've sown the fucking wind. Now reap the whirlwind. ~Carl Benjamin
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Pentagon Purge: Trump Fires Chairman Of Joint Chiefs, Navy Chief And Other Top Brass
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/pentagon-purge-trump-fires-chairman
-joint-chiefs-5-more-senior-pentagon-officers
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Quote:If Trump/Musk were real, they wouldn't be talking about sending out $5,000 checks until after they have the money. But since they are a pair of lunatics, they will say anything.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That is not something that a real person says. That is just 3 sentences you will hear on MSNBC 150 times every evening.
You don't have to keep doing this now Joan. That USAID money is never coming back to you.
Fuck Ukraine.
Trump/Musk are counting their chickens before they hatch:
DOGE savings to give a $5,000 refund to every taxpaying household in the country.
A "DOGE dividend" to be exclusively funded by the department's $2 trillion savings target. DOGE could take 20% of that savings ($400 billion) and divide it between roughly 79 million taxpaying U.S. households, approximately $5,000 per household.
On Feb. 19, Trump told attendees of the FII PRIORITY Summit investment conference in Miami Beach, Florida, that his administration was deliberating the proposal. In a video of his speech posted by the White House YouTube channel, he said:
Quote:Some experts have expressed skepticism regarding the claim that DOGE could cut $2 trillion from the federal budget. Musk even cast doubt on the figure in early January 2025, telling political strategist Mark Penn in an interview broadcast on X:
There's even under consideration a new concept where we give 20% of the DOGE savings to American citizens and 20% goes to paying down debt. Because the numbers are incredible, Elon. So many billions of dollars — billions, hundreds of billions. And we're thinking about giving 20% back to the American citizens.
Quote:Fishback's plan suggested that, should the proposal be accepted, the tax refund could be sent after the expiration of DOGE in July 2026.
I think we'll try for 2 trillion. I think that's like, the best-case outcome. But I do think that you kind of have to have some overreach. I think if we try for 2 trillion we've got a good shot at getting 1 [trillion]."
We contacted the White House for comment and will update this story if we receive a response.
Trump previously issued government-issued checks during the coronavirus pandemic, when he sent out stimulus checks that had his signature on them to millions of Americans.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/musk-taxpayer-5000-refund/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If Trump/Musk were real, they wouldn't be talking about sending out $5,000 checks until after they have the money. But since they are a pair of lunatics, they will say anything.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
That is not something that a real person says. That is just 3 sentences you will hear on MSNBC 150 times every evening.
You don't have to keep doing this now Joan. That USAID money is never coming back to you.
Fuck Ukraine.
Trump/Musk are counting their chickens before they hatch:
DOGE savings to give a $5,000 refund to every taxpaying household in the country.
A "DOGE dividend" to be exclusively funded by the department's $2 trillion savings target. DOGE could take 20% of that savings ($400 billion) and divide it between roughly 79 million taxpaying U.S. households, approximately $5,000 per household.
On Feb. 19, Trump told attendees of the FII PRIORITY Summit investment conference in Miami Beach, Florida, that his administration was deliberating the proposal. In a video of his speech posted by the White House YouTube channel, he said:Quote:Some experts have expressed skepticism regarding the claim that DOGE could cut $2 trillion from the federal budget. Musk even cast doubt on the figure in early January 2025, telling political strategist Mark Penn in an interview broadcast on X:
There's even under consideration a new concept where we give 20% of the DOGE savings to American citizens and 20% goes to paying down debt. Because the numbers are incredible, Elon. So many billions of dollars — billions, hundreds of billions. And we're thinking about giving 20% back to the American citizens.Quote:Fishback's plan suggested that, should the proposal be accepted, the tax refund could be sent after the expiration of DOGE in July 2026.
I think we'll try for 2 trillion. I think that's like, the best-case outcome. But I do think that you kind of have to have some overreach. I think if we try for 2 trillion we've got a good shot at getting 1 [trillion]."
We contacted the White House for comment and will update this story if we receive a response.
Trump previously issued government-issued checks during the coronavirus pandemic, when he sent out stimulus checks that had his signature on them to millions of Americans.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/musk-taxpayer-5000-refund/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
20% of DOGE savings and $5,000 per person are two very, very different things, Snopes.
Which one is it?
I've already done the math for that here...
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=66530
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This number, at 20% of the savings, would be a hell of a lot less at least than the number I heard some people floating around yesterday.
I was hearing $5,000 per person. Fucking ridiculous, whether that's for every American Citizen or even if it's only for those 170.7 Million Americans currently working.
$5,000 x $170,700,000 comes out to $853.5 BILLION, which is $12.1 Billion more than the US Military cost to run in 2024.
There are roughly 297.5 Million American Citizens after your remove the 14.3% of people who don't matter and won't be here for much longer. $5,000 x 297.5 Million comes out to $1.487 TRILLION.
If we're talking 20% of anything DOGE saves, that depends on how much they save.
Well... how much do they spend in total? In 2024, the US Government spent $6.9 Trillion in total.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/where-do-our-federal-tax-
dollars-go
20% of $6.9 Trillion is $1.38 Trillion.
That means if Elon and Trump shut down the Federal Government completely and not a single dime is spent in 2025, the amount of money coming back to US Taxpayers at 20% would still be less than $5,000 per person if every American citizen, excluding illegals, got tha
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Trump has been recently trying to extort Ukraine out of half its mineral wealth. The odd thing about this is that Ukraine doesn't have very much mineral wealth.
Revenues from Ukraine’s resources would be directed to a fund in which the United States would hold 100 percent financial interest, and that Ukraine should contribute to the fund until it reaches $500 billion.... That figure far exceeds the country’s actual revenues from resources, which were $1.1 billion last year.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/world/europe/ukraine-trump-minerals
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Trump has also been nonsensically insisting that Ukraine started the war even though we were all there and saw Russia cross the border and try to run a tank column into Kyiv. And he's been calling Zelensky a dictator even though if there's a dictator around it's obviously Vladimir Putin.
There's nothing complicated here. In 2019 Trump asked Zelensky for dirt against Joe Biden in return for military aid. Zelensky declined and Trump was impeached. Trump has felt aggrieved ever since.
Trump is motivated by revenge and now he's getting it. He's a simple man.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Trump’s 13 biggest lies since he was inaugurated on January 20. It was hard to choose.
The (non-)uniqueness of birthright citizenship: Trump offered what might have sounded like a reasonable rationale for his attempt to get rid of birthright citizenship. The United States, he said, is the only country that has birthright citizenship.
Except that is not true. Dozens of countries, including Canada and Mexico, also grant automatic citizenship to people born on their soil.
More up-is-down reversing of the reality of January 6: For years now, Trump has presented a version of the Capitol riot of January 6, 2021, that bears little resemblance to what actually happened. When he was asked in early February why he granted pardons to people who assaulted first responders, he said the people he pardoned were actually “assaulted by our government” and that “they didn’t assault.” This “they didn’t assault” claim was a brazen denial of the obvious truth, clear in video after video and trial after trial. The Justice Department has said more than 140 officers were assaulted on January 6, and that more than 170 people pleaded guilty to such assaults.
A gusher of deceit about California water policy: Amid disaster, more dishonesty. First, Trump linked the Los Angeles wildfires to California’s decision to use some of its water to protect a fish species in the northern part of the state – even though the two things have nothing to do with each other, as befuddled experts explained to anyone who would listen.
Then, after ordering the sudden release of billions of gallons of water from Central Valley reservoirs for no apparent good reason, Trump declared that some of this water was heading to Los Angeles – even though it wasn’t heading to Los Angeles and couldn’t go to Los Angeles.
The election lie he refused to let die: What can you even say about this one at this point? Trump’s win in the free and fair 2024 election did not convince him to abandon his endless lying about his defeat in the free and fair 2020 election. More than four years after his loss to Joe Biden, he repeated his “rigged” nonsense during at least three events on his 2025 inauguration day alone, then a bunch of times after that.
That fable about Olympic boxers, again: Trump, once a prominent promoter of lies about President Barack Obama’s birthplace, continued to demonstrate no hesitation lying about not only policy issues but also individual people. This time, to promote his push to try to get transgender athletes banned from the Olympics, he told his familiar story about how two gold medalists in women’s boxing at the Games in Paris last year were men who “transitioned.”
Wrong. As the International Olympic Committee repeatedly noted during the Olympics, when Trump and others made such claims, neither champion had transitioned; both were born as female and have always competed in women’s events. Even the discredited boxing authority that controversially disqualified the women from a 2023 competition, vaguely claiming a test had found they had unfair competitive advantages, did not allege they had transitioned.
The president’s fictionalized northern neighbor: Before taking office, Trump casually asserted that the Canadian people “like” his idea of Canada becoming the 51st US state. That was the opposite of the truth; the idea is hugely unpopular with the Canadian public. Then, after his inauguration, Trump continued to make stuff up about Canada – at one point posting on social media and then saying out loud that Canada prohibits US banks from doing business there. He added, “Can you believe that?” No doubt some Americans believe it, but it’s false.
Blasting Biden for a program launched under Trump: After the deadly January collision between a military helicopter and a passenger jet, Trump blamed Biden administration diversity initiatives at the Federal Aviation Administration without providing any evidence any FAA diversity policy had anything to do with the crash. He added in a fictional story
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It's remarkable how much conflict of interest Elon Musk has with the federal government he now controls. A few examples:
1. Musk has been fighting with the FAA for years over regulation of SpaceX, culminating in a couple of large fines levied against SpaceX last year. Musk wanted administrator Michael Whitaker out and said so in no uncertain terms. And guess what? After the election, Whitaker announced he would resign years early before Trump could fire him.
2. The NHTSA is America's premier highway safety agency. Among other things, this makes it the agency in charge of investigating crashes of driverless cars—like Elon Musk's Tesla. But unlike Google's Waymo, which cooperates with the NHTSA, Tesla decidedly doesn't:
Musk has accused NHTSA of holding back progress on self-driving technology with its investigations and recalls.... NHTSA has mandated that Tesla and other automakers using self-driving technology report crash data on vehicles, a requirement that Tesla has criticized and that watchdogs fear could be eliminated.
No matter. Musk is in charge of firing workers, so he decided to slash nearly half the jobs at the specialized unit overseeing the safety of autonomous vehicles:
“If the question is, will this affect the federal government’s ability to understand the safety case behind Tesla’s vehicles, then yes, it will,” said one terminated engineer. “The amount of people in the federal government who are able to understand this adequately is very small. Now it’s almost nonexistent.”
It must be nice to complain about over-regulation and then actually do something about it by firing half the regulators.
3. Donald Trump has ordered the removal of all 8,000 EV chargers installed at government buildings nationwide. Why? It's one thing not to build any more, but why demolish the ones that are already there?
Who else has a profitable network of high-speed chargers that doesn't need any competition? That would be Elon Musk and Tesla.
4. When he took office, Donald Trump promised to end the federal $7,500 subsidy for electric vehicles. This may just be part of Trump's jihad against EVs, but it's worth noting that it would help Tesla:
“Take away the subsidies. It will only help Tesla,” Musk wrote in a post on X as he campaigned and raised money for Trump in July. Auto industry experts say the move would have a nominal impact on Tesla — by far the largest electric vehicle maker in the U.S. — but have a potentially devastating impact on its competitors in the EV sector since they are still struggling to secure a foothold in the market.
It's all a zero-sum game. Subsidies might benefit Tesla, but they benefit smaller EV companies a lot more. Getting rid of them now would be a big net positive for Tesla.
5. When the Ukraine war started Elon Musk immediately activated his Starlink network for use by Ukraine's military. But that turns out to be a two-edged sword:
The US has threatened to cut off Ukraine’s access to Starlink — the global satellite network that has proven essential on the battlefield — if Kyiv does not accept the White House’s deal to exchange its rare earth minerals for continued security guarantees, according to anonymous sources.... “Ukraine runs on Starlink. They consider it their North Star,” the source told Reuters. “Losing Starlink... would be a massive blow.”
This is less an example of Musk benefiting from his control over government than it is the opposite. The government, it turns out, can benefit by knowing Musk will cooperate with them since he doesn't want to lose his access or inadvertently annoy his patron Trump.
https://jabberwocking.com/how-elon-musk-benefits-from-being-elon-musk/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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