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JD Vance is Merely the Latest Conservative Christian to Use Nazi Camps to Cleanse His Antisemitism Sins
By Joel Swanson | February 13, 2025
https://religiondispatches.org/jd-vance-is-merely-the-latest-conservat
ive-christian-to-use-nazi-camps-to-cleanse-his-antisemitism-sins/
On Thursday of this past week, Vice President JD Vance visited the site of the Dachau concentration camp in Germany, making him the latest in a string of American public officials to visit a former Nazi camp. The visit, timed to coincide with Vance’s trip to Germany for the Munich Security Conference, comes a year after Elon Musk, the world’s wealthiest person and newly-installed most powerful person in the United States, visited Auschwitz last January.
It’s worth recalling the circumstances that led to Musk’s visit to Auschwitz a year ago. The visit came after months of antisemitic statements, including using his social media platform X to boost conspiracy theories accusing Jews of “flooding their country” with “hordes of minorities”; threatening to sue the Anti-Defamation League for being the “biggest generators of anti-Semitism”; and accusing Hungarian-born Jewish Holocaust survivor George Soros of attempting to “erode the very fabric of civilization” because he “hates humanity.”
Finally, in the wake of a threatened advertiser boycott with the potential to harm Musk’s bottom line, he did what any wealthy celebrity accused of antisemitism does these days: he made a ritualized visit to a concentration camp or Holocaust museum to have his sins of bigotry washed clean. (In Musk’s case, he also made a similarly ritualized visit to Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu who, of course, has a long history of giving kosher passes to far-right antisemites in exchange for their support for the most right-wing elements within the Israeli government.) Musk’s brief trip to Auschwitz was enough to win instant forgiveness for his sins of antisemitism.
Except, of course, Musk was not radically, instantaneously transformed by his time at Auschwitz. He was not magically cleansed of his antisemitism. In the year after his trip to the infamous Nazi concentration camp, Musk reinstated the accounts of Holocaust deniers and praised a Holocaust revisionist historian. In just the past month alone, Musk infamously performed a Nazi salute at a Trump inauguration rally; joked about the Holocaust; told supporters of the German far-right party Alternative for Germany that Germany needs to “move beyond” its historical guilt for the Holocaust; and reinstated a briefly-fired 25-year-old government employee who had bragged about being “racist before it was cool” and called for the repeal of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Because the truth is, a trip to Auschwitz or Dachau isn’t some instant cure for antisemitism. It does not wipe away years of bigotry and far-right sympathies in some blinding flash of moral enlightenment. In fact, Musk didn’t even take his trip to the death camp particularly seriously. According to the partner of an 89-year-old Holocaust survivor who was the guest of honor for Musk’s visit to the site, Musk “did not care” about the trip at all, and was “unmoved by the experience.”
Art Spiegelman, the author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning graphic novel Maus, and himself the child of Holocaust survivors, has noted that despite the Jewishness of the Holocaust, most of our cultural narratives about the atrocity are actually Christian in nature, because they see suffering as providing a path to moral enlightenment; as Spiegelman writes: “that notion of suffering is a very Christian notion, that somehow you’re ennobled by it.”
Spiegelman is correct, but I would argue that he doesn’t go far enough. Not only are our narratives about Holocaust suffering narratives of Christian redemptive suffering, but our Holocaust memorial sites have become Christian sites of instant redemption. We see the symbolic visit to Auschwitz or Dachau as a sort of Christian pilgrimage, a way to receive penance and be cleansed of one’s sins, in the same way that Christians speak
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You just keep writing and posting articles like that and see where it gets you.
There's 25% of the population who would love to see it done just to spite you at this point. Care to make it 45%?
Keep it up.
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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Israel has an unholy control over our nation's Mideast foreign policy. They portray themselves as long-suffering perpetual victims (as if no other ethnic group, religion, or nationality was ever genocided or suffered greatly!) while engaging in the exact same crimes they constantly wail about.
Fuck Israel. They're not "our allies in the Middle East". They're not defending our interests there (whateverthe fuck those are), they're just using us to knock over all of their neighboring states.
Visiting Auschwitz is just pandering to AIPAC and the (IMHO) easily-led American sheeplike public, who have been innoculated with pro-Jewish, pro-Israeli, and anti-Muslim propaganda for so long it feels natural.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
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Yeah.
Fuck Israel too.
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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SIX, I wish I had more time to chat with you about this. Right now I can only address this:
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I guess when you stop paying any attention and/or care to an entire generation or two of predominantly white males, you aren't paying attention to who the boys and young men are actually listening to.
So I looked him up, and there's a whole demographic out there I never knew existed. He gets 30 million views a month, but I'm sure those aren't unique views. So that's a million a day. If ppl check his website on average once a day, he has a million unique viewers. If they only check in on average three times a week, thats a bit over 2 million viewers. Quite a few!
Anyway, I think the answer to this isn't censorship or propaganda, I think the answer is to teach critical thinking.
Many agree we need it, but nobody has been able to say what that is or how to teach it.
Some people "follow the money". Others have benefitted from courses in rhetoric or debate.
Hubby always references something physically fundamental: energy. Not motivational or emotional energy ("I felt so much energy in the room!") but actual KWH, or whatever units energy is being measured in. It really works for him.
It also helps to have experienced a different culture. Americans are particularly hidebound. Even being stationed in Germany is an eye opener.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
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Quote:What would these "white males" understand when they read a novel such as The Day of the Locust (1939)? Most likely they don't read nor would they understand that they are living examples of the characters in a novel:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, I wish I had more time to chat with you about this. Right now I can only address this:Quote:
I guess when you stop paying any attention and/or care to an entire generation or two of predominantly white males, you aren't paying attention to who the boys and young men are actually listening to.
So I looked him up, and there's a whole demographic out there I never knew existed. He gets 30 million views a month, but I'm sure those aren't unique views. So that's a million a day. If ppl check his website on average once a day, he has a million unique viewers. If they only check in on average three times a week, thats a bit over 2 million viewers. Quite a few!
Anyway, I think the answer to this isn't censorship or propaganda, I think the answer is to teach critical thinking.
Many agree we need it, but nobody has been able to say what that is or how to teach it.
Some people "follow the money". Others have benefitted from courses in rhetoric or debate.
Hubby always references something physically fundamental: energy. Not motivational or emotional energy ("I felt so much energy in the room!") but actual KWH, or whatever units energy is being measured in. It really works for him.
It also helps to have experienced a different culture. Americans are particularly hidebound. Even being stationed in Germany is an eye opener.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_of_the_Locust#Themes
The characters are outcasts, who have come to Hollywood to fulfill a dream or wish: "The importance of the wish in West's work was first noted by W. H. Auden, who declared (in one of the interludes in The Dyer's Hand) that West's novels were essentially "parables about a Kingdom of Hell whose ruler is not so much a Father of Lies as a Father of Wishes".[12] In this respect, James Light, in his book Violence, Dreams, and Dostoevsky: The Art of Nathanael West, suggests that The Day of the Locust falls in with a motif in West's fiction; the exposure of hopeful narratives in modern American culture as frauds.[13]
As some critics point out, West's novel was a radical challenge to modernist literature. Some modernists set themselves up in opposition to mass culture; West depicts it and makes it an integral part of the novel.[14] West's use of grotesque imagery and situations establishes the novel as a work of Juvenalian satire. His critique of Hollywood and the mentality of "the masses" depicts an America sick with vanity and the harbor of a malignant sense of perversity.
The original title of the novel was The Cheated. The title of West's Day of the Locust is a biblical allusion to the Old Testament. Susan Sanderson writes:
The most famous literary or historical reference to locusts is in the Book of Exodus in the Bible, in which God sends a plague of locusts to the pharaoh of Egypt as retribution for refusing to free the enslaved Jews. Millions of locusts swarm over the lush fields of Egypt, destroying its food supplies. Destructive locusts also appear in the New Testament in the symbolic and apocalyptic book of Revelation. West's use of "locust" in his title evokes images of destruction and a land stripped bare of anything green and living. The novel is filled with images of destruction: Tod Hackett's painting entitled "The Burning of Los Angeles," his violent fantasies about Faye and the bloody result of the cockfight. A close examination of West's characters and his selective use of natural images, which include representations of violence and impotence — and which are therefore contrary to popular images linking nature and fertility — reveals that the locust in the title is Tod.[
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, I wish I had more time to chat with you about this. Right now I can only address this:Quote:
I guess when you stop paying any attention and/or care to an entire generation or two of predominantly white males, you aren't paying attention to who the boys and young men are actually listening to.
So I looked him up, and there's a whole demographic out there I never knew existed. He gets 30 million views a month, but I'm sure those aren't unique views. So that's a million a day. If ppl check his website on average once a day, he has a million unique viewers. If they only check in on average three times a week, thats a bit over 2 million viewers. Quite a few!
Yeah. And he's just one dude who isn't Joe Rogan.
The Legacy Media really hasn't relized that it is dead yet. None of these people watching Asmon or Rogan or anyone else almost never tune into the news. In the case of Asmon, he shows it to them with a lot of commentary and some back and forth with followers.
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Anyway, I think the answer to this isn't censorship or propaganda, I think the answer is to teach critical thinking.
Overall, I think people watching stuff from somebody like Asmond is a good thing. I really do. And you have to know by now that I wasn't saying there should be any form of censorship, since fighting against that has always been one of my core values.
But I don't believe that engaging in this behavior does anything to foster any critical thinking skills. It's more herd-mentality that you see everywhere these days. They've managed to somehow poison the younger generations to grow up and make everything just like High School.
At least Asmond challenges bad takes, and from what I can tell he is pretty obviously well read, and isn't just some guy who should be talking Pokemon instead of Politics.
At 1 Million views per day, he's getting more viewership than most Cable News talking heads do.
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Many agree we need it, but nobody has been able to say what that is or how to teach it.
You simply can't be taught it. Not in a classroom. That's my take.
And the longer you keep the kid gloves on and refuse to put children into any position of even mild discomfort where they'd need to use their own noggins to get themselves out of a bad situation, they will grow up having never learned it and by then it's far too late for most of them. And they'll spend their entire adult lives unable to distinguish an opinion from a fact, and will be very easily propagandized.
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Some people "follow the money". Others have benefitted from courses in rhetoric or debate.
Hubby always references something physically fundamental: energy. Not motivational or emotional energy ("I felt so much energy in the room!") but actual KWH, or whatever units energy is being measured in. It really works for him.
It also helps to have experienced a different culture. Americans are particularly hidebound. Even being stationed in Germany is an eye opener.
I'm not getting what you mean by your husband referencing energy. You mean when you discuss politics with him he gives kWh ratings to different politicians, policies, etc.?
You can have plenty of different experiences just by living in America without going anywhere else. It's one of the reasons that the Left always putting everyone into boxes pisses me off so much. Nobody in my family did a goddamned bad thing to black people. We weren't even here early enough to do it. I drive around a shittier car than 95% of black people do. I don't want to hear about how great I have it or how bad my family was to anyone else anymore. And I especially don't ever want to hear out of some black millionaire like Anthony Mackie or Kapernick. We're done with that bullshit in 2025.
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Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews
Meanwhile in Russia: Sergey Mikheyev says that in light of the Trump administration's express intent to abandon NATO allies in case they intervene in Ukraine, Russia should strike Brussels, London and Paris. Vladimir Solovyov wholeheartedly agrees.
8:39 PM · Feb 15, 2025
https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1890954112100892934
Sergey Mikheyev says Russia should strike Brussels, London and Paris
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:Not counting the military, there are 2.6 million federal employees. On average, including benefits, they earn on the order of $140,000 a year. That works out to a little more than $350 billion a year. If Elon Musk fired half a million of them, that would save just 1% of the budget — not counting the cost of paying them unemployment benefits and the loss of tax revenue levied on their earnings (and the cost of losing the value of their work, just in case they had not been totally useless, as Musk, 6ix and Signym seem convinced they are).
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Back to SIX's original proposal: if you think the Federal employees' work is so important, why don't you pay their salaries?
https://andrewtobias.com/actions-we-can-take-today/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Boo hoo.
They should have saved their money while the getting was good.
If they're smart, they're in the process of learning a few life lessons right now.
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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