How long before foreign movies, games and foreign language tv outsell Hollywood movies / tv
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Hollywood is dying and almost nobody working in the industry will admit it
DVDs almost died and that industry allowed a lot of films that were doing ok at the box office an opportunity to recover any lost profits.
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How long before foreign films and foreign language television outsells Hollywood movies / tv in North American theatrical releases?..maybe not anymore since Trump is placing tariff sanction on film in attempt to save perverted Hollyweird
How long before Mexican Spanish movies or Hindu Street Shitters start to outsell Hollywood movies in North American theatrical releases?
For some reason Hollywood refuses to support indie American film makers
Canada seems done as a film location, Canada for a while it did good providing location for US shows and movies. Hollyweird as a culture has crashed, there have been foreign waves that beat Hollywood before, the French, the Japanese Samurai movies, the Italian-American spaghetti Western, HK Kungfu films, then J-horror, Korean tv a return of anime and Chinese films arriving. Then we had 'RRR' a 2022 Indian Telugu-language epic.
but now there are too many factors are lined up against the California crowd
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Local Indian Bollywood box office
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/11446-indian-box-office-threa
d-jawan-overtakes-pathaan-becomes-highest-grossing-indian-movie-of-2023/page/6/#comments
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Big Fx and explosive space effects and CGI but very shallow like a Zack Snyder movie
Bollywood has been around a while and India does have good movies but this one is strange
the Hindu Street Shitters don't always make what people note as 'Art'
even foreign mediocrity with no real story or message can compete against Hollyweird
'Kalki 2898 AD' Tops India's Box Office Chart For First Half Of 2024, Contributing 15% Of Box Office
https://deadline.com/2024/07/kalki-2898-ad-india-box-office-report-123
6012524/
20 Spanish TV Shows You Can Watch this Second
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/20-spanish-tv-shows-watch-01000036
3.html
Look at how good Chuck did it
some online NPC bots are blabbing about Kill Hindi I have not seen many Hindi Indian at Kickboxing, MMA, Judo, UFC, Wrestling, Karate, Boxing...they do the dance thing but for me the martial arts thing is a hard sell and I'm not really buying it in some of their movies, in real life sports they are terrible at winning Gold in the Olympics...screen presence, the stage and movement and stardom?
Arnie had terrible English when he started but he made it part of his thing, I liked some Thai stuff but they did not sell to the English speaking audience, Chuck Norris, Donnie Yen, Bruce Lee, Wesley Snipes, Dolph Lundgren, Ray Park, Randy Couture, Stallone, Toshiro Mifune, Jackie Chan, Van Damme some are real fighters they got in the ring and took hits and others are martial arts stage but they can all sell action that looks ok on screen
nobody will tell you Jack Dempsey can not sell strength and action in old film real like Mr Broadway or Daredevil Jack 1920 they look tough, that guy can throw a punch
Mike Tex Cobb or Mike Tyson are filmed where their physical skills come out and look the real deal. Although 'Charles Bronson' just looked tough a fighter even if he was not a martial arts guy, some of the Actors in epics like Spartacus could sell their role. Burt Lancaster and Paul Newman were very physical guys in their youth even if they were not martial arts guys, in the USA the stars are dying?
Actor Steve Reeves was already a beast and known as a 'Strongman' freakshow. Dwyane the Rock Johson, Dave Bautista and Hulk Hogan were Wrestler monsters but I'm not sure if Hulk Hogan was much as an actor in live action movies it seemed very Wrestlemania like.
Shaquille O'Neal does not need to do much to look big and tough but his skills as an actor are poor, Actors like Russell Crowe is another who just looks tough and mean a New Zealand and Australia actor.
Something also changed in the late 1960s era of film, and early 70s of Hollywood once Bruce Lee arrived you were expected to kick a bit, judo, knees and elbows, a real martial art street fight and an actor had to do more than throw a haymaker punch, the old action heroes of the 1940s could no longer do it in the new era of hand to hand stunts, a lot of it is still carefully timed behind the scenes camera work and choreography and stunt teams.
but I'm not really getting the Hindi Fight thing, some countries have it some actors have it physically but are missing the lines and 'screen presence' Tony Jaa was ok from Thailand but lacked the actor ability never going beyond stunt actor.
the new men of Hollywood look effeminate, theater stage guys. Is it so bad they have to bring Stallone out of retirement to make tough guy movies?
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Some stunts
Modern Masters: S. S. Rajamouli
Official Trailer
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Hollywood is currently knocked out of the top ten not just by Chinese films but also by SKorean and Russian box office
LA is not just burnt and ash but the industry is dead?
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To be fair, we really don't release anything decent this early in the year, and the studios seem happy to ride whatever coattails they have left from the final releases of the year before. The 2nd highest grossing movie of 2025 is only $53 Million right now, so all of those other Russian and Spanish movies will be bumped down into the 30's and 40's very quickly in the coming months.
But it is going to be funny watching that Top List in 2025. It won't be until summertime before the US even has a shot to beat that Chinese flick. And if said flick grosses over $1.6 Billion like they're predicting it will, there's a somewhat decent chance that this movie stays at 1st place all year long.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
To be fair, we really don't release anything decent this early in the year, and the studios seem happy to ride whatever coattails they have left from the final releases of the year before.
I would disagree with this, in the good years Hollywood often had cult hits at this time of year and would make box office money also, cheap low budget indie films in Jan-Feb but also some Box Office hits
The Lego Movie, Sonic, M3GAN, Spider-Man No Way Home, Aquaman, Rogue One Star Wars, The Book of Eli, LOTR, Scream
the market however has changed, maybe it started crashing in 2015-ish?
also budgets for movies are insane these days
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Hollywood struggles overseas
but winners?
not Thailand
The sad story of Thai films struggling at the box office
https://www.nationthailand.com/life/entertainment/40047171
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Indians might have the demographic to take over Canadian film
that is assuming they spend cash in Canada and don't send it all back home
Indian language films take centre stage at reopened Winnipeg cinema
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/indian-language-films-garden-c
ity-winnipeg-1.7473601
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RRR Turns 3 Years, it seems this will be the year that Hollywood could be defeated
Indian Action Film ‘Martin’ Scores International Distribution Deals for Indywood at Hong Kong FilMart
https://variety.com/2025/global/news/martin-international-distribution
-deals-1236340099/
and Hollyweird already gave Oscars to 2024 Spanish-language French musical transexual crime film ...so I guess that's like the Soccer thing of scoring an own goal?
then tweets came out with controversial 'Nazi' comments?
‘Emilia Pérez’ Star Apologizes for he / she / it comments on something?
‘Emilia Peréz’ star Karla Sofía Gascón on dealing with racist tweets controversy: “I contemplated the unthinkable”
https://www.nme.com/news/film/emilia-perez-star-karla-sofia-gascon-on-
dealing-with-racist-tweets-controversy-i-contemplated-the-unthinkable-3844835
the Oscars, a shitshow nobody watches anymore
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