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It’s Time To Start Treating Mexico Like A Hostile Foreign Power

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Friday, January 31, 2025 9:00 AM

https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/30/its-time-to-start-treating-mexico
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Earlier this week, suspected Mexican drug cartel gunmen fired on U.S. Border Patrol agents in Texas, who fired back. This took place on a strip of land in the middle of the Rio Grande called Fronton Island, also known as “Cartel Island” because it was previously used as a staging area for cartel smuggling operations. Texas authorities took over the island as part of Gov. Greg Abbott’s Operation Lone Star and declared it Texas territory in November 2023.

The incident illustrates why it’s time to start treating Mexico as a hostile foreign power that represents a direct threat to the American homeland — not just for the way the Mexican state has facilitated and encouraged illegal immigration, but also because it has allowed the cartels to take control of vast swaths of Mexican territory, infiltrate the Mexican government at the highest levels, and carry out sophisticated operations on both sides of the Rio Grande.

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Friday, January 31, 2025 3:26 PM

The Mexican government would probably like its power back, too.

Unfortunately, just like here in the states, those with the money control the game. Here, it's transnational and banks. There, it's drug money.

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Friday, January 31, 2025 8:33 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/30/its-time-to-start-treating-mexico
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And as I’ve argued elsewhere, those operations should include cross-border incursions into Mexico, whether to capture or kill cartel leaders, establish a buffer zone to protect U.S. border communities within range of small arms fire from Mexico, or to disrupt and destroy the cartels’ drug and migrant trafficking operations across northern Mexico. The only way to reestablish our southern border is to make war on those who control it, which means taking the fight directly to the cartels. Christopher Landau, who served as Trump’s ambassador to Mexico during his first term and has now been tapped for deputy secretary of state, has said that up to 40 percent of Mexican territory is controlled by the cartels. And where the cartels don’t exercise direct control, they collude and cooperate with the Mexican government, which has effectively synthesized with the major cartels. It’s not too much to say that Mexico has become a narco-state.
When does Trump go to Congress to get the necessary Declaration of War against Mexico? Or does Trump invade without Congress's permission?

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-i/cla
uses/753


The Constitution’s Article I, Section 8 specifically lists as a power of Congress the power “to declare War,” which unquestionably gives the legislature the power to initiate hostilities. The extent to which this clause limits the President’s ability to use military force without Congress’s affirmative approval remains highly contested.

Most people agree, at minimum, that the Declare War Clause grants Congress an exclusive power. That is, Presidents cannot, on their own authority, declare war. Although it is somewhat more contested among scholars and commentators, most people also agree that Presidents cannot initiate wars on their own authority (a minority argues that Presidents may initiate uses of force without formally declaring war and that Congress’s exclusive power to “declare war” refers only to issuing a formal proclamation).

In the early post-ratification period, the clause’s limit on presidential warmaking was read broadly. Many key founders, including Alexander Hamilton, George Washington and James Madison, referred to the clause’s importance as a limit on presidential power. In the nation’s early conflicts, Congress’s approval was thought necessary – not only for the War of 1812, for which Congress issued a formal declaration, but also for lesser uses of force including the Quasi-War with France in 1798, conflicts with the Barbary States of Tripoli and Algiers, and conflicts with Native American tribes on the Western frontier (all of which were approved by Congress, albeit without formal declarations).

In modern times, however, Presidents have used military force without formal declarations or express consent from Congress on multiple occasions.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, January 31, 2025 8:42 PM

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Originally posted by second:
When does Trump go to Congress to get the necessary Declaration of War against Mexico? Or does Trump invade without Congress's permission?



I didn't say we go to war with Mexico, stupid.

This is why nobody can have a debate with you. Whether intentional or not, every argument you ever make is a logical fallacy.

This is called a Straw Man.

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Friday, January 31, 2025 9:02 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by second:
When does Trump go to Congress to get the necessary Declaration of War against Mexico? Or does Trump invade without Congress's permission?



I didn't say we go to war with Mexico, stupid.

This is why nobody can have a debate with you. Whether intentional or not, every argument you ever make is a logical fallacy.

This is called a Straw Man.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

Your life story and Trump's is an offense against decency. I can sum you up in two words you wrote: "Fuck Ukraine". But that isn't 1% of what is wrong with you. I picked only those two words because Signym also has used them. And then there is Trump, a guy whose life story would require millions of words to describe his offenses.

There is zero possibility of debate because your mental processes are no different than a Confederate defending slavery, or a Nazi praising Trump, where the correct response to the Nazi-Confederate's argument for slavery, or "Sieg Heil mein Führer Trump" is to shoot him the instant he opens his mouth.

I probably should tone this down by apologizing for making it seem as if you are the worst Trumptard I know. Ninety-nine percent of them I know are worse, which make you in the top 1%. Congratulations for barely failing!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, January 31, 2025 9:16 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Your life story and Trump's is an offense against decency.



Right back at ya.



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Friday, January 31, 2025 9:23 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The Mexican government would probably like its power back, too.

Unfortunately, just like here in the states, those with the money control the game. Here, it's transnational and banks. There, it's drug money.



Most of that dries up when our Government actually does their fucking job for once.

Our open border has been destroying both nations.

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Sunday, February 2, 2025 10:10 AM

Maybe Trump should ask theMexican President if she would like help restoring the national government`s authority. I'm sure she's not too happy that her nation is hostage to drug cartels.

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Sunday, February 2, 2025 12:29 PM

From what I hear, she's rather well thought of in her country.

But, yanno... who knows. I don't go out of my way to investigate the state of affairs in Mexico, and I didn't hear anything about her good or bad until after Trump was inaugurated. And we know how quickly they'll come to the aid of anybody who's on the opposite side of Trump in any given situation.

Next week should be interesting. Trump just imposed a 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico, as well as a 10% duty tax on China. I hear the only exception to any of this will be a flat 10% on Canada for anything pertaining to energy.

I think this all goes into effect on Tuesday.

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Sunday, February 2, 2025 7:30 PM

Where do Mexican cartels get their weapons? The USA.
https://www.quora.com/Where-do-Mexican-cartels-get-their-weapons?top_a
ns=300661621


Where do Mexican cartels get their money? The USA.
https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/marijuana-mexican-cartels-stunn
ing-rise-chinese-money-launderers-rcna158030


Perhaps the US government should go to war within the USA? But Trump doesn't have the guts to do it because he is a pussy. (Also, he'd have to kill millions of Trumptards who buy drugs and guns. That would be a huge benefit for America but it would cut into Trump's voter base.)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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