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Justin Trudeau Resigns

POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
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Thursday, January 9, 2025 2:18 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Fidel Jr. didn't;t really resign, right? He just did that to avoid being removed, so he can retain the power.



Did he?

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Thursday, January 9, 2025 2:59 PM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
We need to rethink how much $$$ we hemorrhage into NATO. And if NATO nations don't want to pony up for the cost of being in NATO, maybe they should rethink their membership.

That's not being snippy. One of the reasons why NATO nations can get hysterical about the "Russian threat" is bc they don't have to bear the cost. So they can mentally balloon up the threat to astronomical proportions bc, well, America will always step in and "save them". So instead of addressing their security in a real way, including negotiations with Russia, they turn it into a giant boondoggle.
It's a money-making scam for the MIC and Eurocrats, if you ask me.
IMHO Canada's risk of a Russian invasion (or Chinese, for that matter) is nil. I honestly don't see why Canada has be a part of NATO.
But SIX, don't make this all a NATO problem. The USA has 800+ installations and full-on bases all over the world, many nothing to do with NATO. (Japan, S Korea, Syria, Jordan, misc places in Africa etc etc.)
More money-making scam for the MIC, Joint Chiefs, Congress etc etc
Seems we could pare a lot of that down.


SIX: I didn't make this a NATO problem, nor did I praise or otherwise glorify our military might.

NATO should be dissolved, and America should start that by withdrawing completely, forever.

Nobody on earth is going to mess with Canada because they're our baby brother and we have a majority of the nukes and ordinance, plus a yearly military budget that outspends every competitive nation in the world combined.

So it's really easy for Canadians to brag about universal healthcare when they don't ever even have to consider spending any of their tax dollars on military budgets. Just like it is for everybody in Europe that only get to do it because OUR military that ONLY WE pay for is obscene.

My point is that all the free shit everywhere else ends instantaneously if America pulls out and tells everyone else that they're on their own against the Russias and the Chinas and the North Koreas and the Muslims, etc.

There is no argument to that statement. This is an objective fact.

Everybody else gets to pretend they're living in Progressive Utopias and blow their budgets on Communist experiments every year because they've got Papa USA all up in everyone's asshole 24/7/365. And they've got it so good they can go around the last two decades calling white males who built everything for them the "bad guys".

We'll see who the bad guys are when America announces they're no longer playing world police.

SPOILER ALERT 1: Most of the bad guys out there in 2024 aren't white.

SPOILER ALERT 2: When the wars start happening, your "Progressive" leaders already let in the first wave of combatants with open arms and used our tax dollars to house and feed them until the war started.

I agree with some and disagree with some.

The part I disagree with is the idea that the USA is "protecting" anybody. Nobody, not Canadians and not Eurocrats, should be under the illusion that the USA can protect even a few of them, let alone all of them, against a concerted attack. The whole concept of USA protection is a just a security blanket for childish foreign pols who want to believe fairy tales.

More importantly, they - and we- exaggerate the hell out of the "threats" that we're supposedly facing. Iran doesn't pose a threat to us, Europe, or Canada. Neither did Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, or Libya. Neither does China or Russia, unless we seriously threaten their security and require them to react.

I think everyone should calm the fuck down about the USA reducing its military support and take a realistic view of the ACTUAL security threats they're facing, and stop fearing the boogeymen that the MIC is always trying to scare us with.



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Thursday, January 9, 2025 4:21 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I agree with some and disagree with some.

The part I disagree with is the idea that the USA is "protecting" anybody.



Well... I can't exactly write a manifesto with every post.

I both disagree and agree with your statement.

US "Protection" is similar to Mafia protection. However "we" pick and choose who we're going to protect and who we leave to the wolves is above any of our paygrades.

Indirectly, however, at least until recent times, the US has offered quite a lot of protection to Western countries worldwide just by existing, claiming we are pro-Europe and several other places, and having the world's largest military presence. There was enough fear, again... until recently, that it just wasn't worth invading France for fear of USA retaliation.

And that's all it the protection racket in the worldwide theater amounts to. Security Theater. Fear tactics. Just like cops don't prevent crime physically and are usually just there to clean up the mess afterward, the USA would be there to fight after somebody strikes first and many people have died. And just like when the fear of cops disappeared in the wake of George Floyd, bad things begin to happen on the world stage. Once that fear is lost because the real bad guys don't believe that we have the will to carry out anything with it, the world's largest military just becomes a black hole sucking the wealth out of our country forever.

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Nobody, not Canadians and not Eurocrats, should be under the illusion that the USA can protect even a few of them, let alone all of them, against a concerted attack. The whole concept of USA protection is a just a security blanket for childish foreign pols who want to believe fairy tales.


And hopefully they don't find that out the hard way... They've all left themselves woefully unprepared for, well... anything.

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More importantly, they - and we- exaggerate the hell out of the "threats" that we're supposedly facing. Iran doesn't pose a threat to us, Europe, or Canada. Neither did Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, or Libya. Neither does China or Russia, unless we seriously threaten their security and require them to react.

I think everyone should calm the fuck down about the USA reducing its military support and take a realistic view of the ACTUAL security threats they're facing, and stop fearing the boogeymen that the MIC is always trying to scare us with.



I don't argue that, and I'll be the first to stand with you against US military expansion and imperialism. But you can't just bury your head in the sand and think that everybody is chill as long as we're chill. We've got 8 Billion people and not nearly enough to go around. Once America pulls out their military and downsizes it, because that HAS TO HAPPEN OR WE GO BANKRUPT, everybody else is going to have to take money from things like Universal Healthcare and build up their own military in its place, or they're going to suffer the consequences.

Because there will be consequences, Sigs.

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Friday, January 10, 2025 2:34 PM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I agree with some and disagree with some.

The part I disagree with is the idea that the USA is "protecting" anybody.

SIX:

Well... I can't exactly write a manifesto with every post.

I both disagree and agree with your statement.

US "Protection" is similar to Mafia protection. However "we" pick and choose who we're going to protect and who we leave to the wolves is above any of our paygrades.

Indirectly, however, at least until recent times, the US has offered quite a lot of protection to Western countries worldwide just by existing, claiming we are pro-Europe and several other places, and having the world's largest military presence. There was enough fear, again... until recently, that it just wasn't worth invading France for fear of USA retaliation.

And that's all it the protection racket in the worldwide theater amounts to. Security Theater. Fear tactics. Just like cops don't prevent crime physically and are usually just there to clean up the mess afterward, the USA would be there to fight after somebody strikes first and many people have died. And just like when the fear of cops disappeared in the wake of George Floyd, bad things begin to happen on the world stage. Once that fear is lost because the real bad guys don't believe that we have the will to carry out anything with it, the world's largest military just becomes a black hole sucking the wealth out of our country forever.

interesting phrase "security theatre". Nicely summed up!

So, who are the REAL "bad guys"?

We've fucked over quite a few nations pretty hard. But it's in no nations' interest to tackle the USA head-on, military to military, out of a sense of vengeance. We're not about to be invaded (except by illegal migrants and terrorists, but that's different) or bombed or struck by missiles unless we attack somebody first. Our military may be bloated and incompetent, but it is big enough to be a deterrent against an outright attack. Even Russia is reluctant to engage us directly bc they don'twant to trigger nuclear war, and between them and China they could destroy us on water, land, and in air.

Now, we have legitimate INTERESTS outside of our borders, mostly related to oil and shipping. But the Houthis have shown us we can't protect our cargo ships against a sandal-wearing militia force, and they're only pissing on us bc we support Israel and Israel is committing genocide. Most nations have an interest in protecting common/ international spaces, like shipping lanes, so there tends to be a detente of mutual interests unless we're real dicks about something and call wrath down on ourselves. Which we've done, more than once.

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Nobody, not Canadians and not Eurocrats, should be under the illusion that the USA can protect even a few of them, let alone all of them, against a concerted attack. The whole concept of USA protection is a just a security blanket for childish foreign pols who want to believe fairy tales.

SIX: And hopefully they don't find that out the hard way... They've all left themselves woefully unprepared for, well... anything.


It's always best to have a good deterrence. Europe, collectively, could challenge Russia. But they need to do a few things

1) they need to right their economy, and that means going back to cheap Russian pipeline gas. Wars are industrial. They need to build up their industry even if it means using Russian commodities to do it. Too bad Russia is probably not in a mood to sell to Europe. Anymore.
Those neocon Eurocrats. They really screwed the pooch this time. On to plan B.

2) They still need to find or a develop alternate sources of energy. The thing that stymied Hitler was lack of oil. Maybe that means going back to nuclear and getting their oil from someplace else - Venezuela, perhaps, ignoring all of USA'S sanctions, which are

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Monday, January 13, 2025 9:49 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Fidel Jr. didn't;t really resign, right? He just did that to avoid being removed, so he can retain the power.



Did he?

The next day he was about to be removed, with no choice or option in the matter.
With his announcement, he remains in power until he can make arrangements suitable to him and his party. A few months yet.

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Monday, January 13, 2025 5:56 PM

They won't resign in California and sometimes you see them laughing at this time, so why is why smiling and laughing like Joker 2 Folie à Deux ?

conspiracy people as

Was there a plan to burn people out of it and make way for the Sportball Olympics


https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1878626479501905992

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Tuesday, January 14, 2025 5:20 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I agree with some and disagree with some.

The part I disagree with is the idea that the USA is "protecting" anybody.

SIX:

Well... I can't exactly write a manifesto with every post.

I both disagree and agree with your statement.

US "Protection" is similar to Mafia protection. However "we" pick and choose who we're going to protect and who we leave to the wolves is above any of our paygrades.

Indirectly, however, at least until recent times, the US has offered quite a lot of protection to Western countries worldwide just by existing, claiming we are pro-Europe and several other places, and having the world's largest military presence. There was enough fear, again... until recently, that it just wasn't worth invading France for fear of USA retaliation.

And that's all it the protection racket in the worldwide theater amounts to. Security Theater. Fear tactics. Just like cops don't prevent crime physically and are usually just there to clean up the mess afterward, the USA would be there to fight after somebody strikes first and many people have died. And just like when the fear of cops disappeared in the wake of George Floyd, bad things begin to happen on the world stage. Once that fear is lost because the real bad guys don't believe that we have the will to carry out anything with it, the world's largest military just becomes a black hole sucking the wealth out of our country forever.

interesting phrase "security theatre". Nicely summed up!

So, who are the REAL "bad guys"?

We've fucked over quite a few nations pretty hard. But it's in no nations' interest to tackle the USA head-on, military to military, out of a sense of vengeance. We're not about to be invaded (except by illegal migrants and terrorists, but that's different) or bombed or struck by missiles unless we attack somebody first. Our military may be bloated and incompetent, but it is big enough to be a deterrent against an outright attack. Even Russia is reluctant to engage us directly bc they don'twant to trigger nuclear war, and between them and China they could destroy us on water, land, and in air.

Now, we have legitimate INTERESTS outside of our borders, mostly related to oil and shipping. But the Houthis have shown us we can't protect our cargo ships against a sandal-wearing militia force, and they're only pissing on us bc we support Israel and Israel is committing genocide. Most nations have an interest in protecting common/ international spaces, like shipping lanes, so there tends to be a detente of mutual interests unless we're real dicks about something and call wrath down on ourselves. Which we've done, more than once.

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Nobody, not Canadians and not Eurocrats, should be under the illusion that the USA can protect even a few of them, let alone all of them, against a concerted attack. The whole concept of USA protection is a just a security blanket for childish foreign pols who want to believe fairy tales.

SIX: And hopefully they don't find that out the hard way... They've all left themselves woefully unprepared for, well... anything.


It's always best to have a good deterrence. Europe, collectively, could challenge Russia. But they need to do a few things

1) they need to right their economy, and that means going back to cheap Russian pipeline gas. Wars are industrial. They need to build up their industry even if it means using Russian commodities to do it. Too bad Russia is probably not in a mood to sell to Europe. Anymore.
Those neocon Eurocrats. They really screwed the pooch this time. On to plan B.

2) They still need to find or a develop alternate sources of energy. The thing that stymied Hitler was lack of oil. Maybe that means going back to nuclear and getting their oil from someplace else - Venezuela, perhaps, ignori

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Tuesday, January 14, 2025 6:22 AM

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But I'm not saying that the US IS the Bad Guy, because there are a lot of really bad people out there with money who could easily fund enough terror and mayhem to shut down our country completely. They wouldn't have to even send anybody over to do it because they're all here waiting for the word already.


Oh, indeed.

We have so many single points of failure it's astonishing we've managed to avoid catastrophe as far as we have. All we have to do is look at some local emergency- hurricane, fire, blizzard... to see how our systems perform under stress.

It's corruption, SIX. And I don't mean just "money in an envelope". I mean having priorities OTHER THAN the good of/ proper functioning of your area of responsibility, whether that's money, party loyalty, globalist agenda, "woke" ideology, career advancement etc.

Stuff doesn't function on its own. It needs people to actively get shit done and make sure it's heading in the right direction. When people take their eye off the ball ... if not actively sabotage operations... that's when things decay.

Systems can only afford so many parasites.

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Tuesday, January 14, 2025 6:57 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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But I'm not saying that the US IS the Bad Guy, because there are a lot of really bad people out there with money who could easily fund enough terror and mayhem to shut down our country completely. They wouldn't have to even send anybody over to do it because they're all here waiting for the word already.


Oh, indeed.

We have so many single points of failure it's astonishing we've managed to avoid catastrophe as far as we have. All we have to do is look at some local emergency- hurricane, fire, blizzard... to see how our systems perform under stress.

It's corruption, SIX. And I don't mean just "money in an envelope". I mean having priorities OTHER THAN the good of/ proper functioning of your area of responsibility, whether that's money, party loyalty, globalist agenda, "woke" ideology, career advancement etc.

Stuff doesn't function on its own. It needs people to actively get shit done and make sure it's heading in the right direction. When people take their eye off the ball ... if not actively sabotage operations... that's when things decay.

Systems can only afford so many parasites.



Well that's the real question of our age, isn't it?

Did we destroy the best thing that Humanity ever built because of sheer incompetence and greed?

Or are there people playing a Chess game that we can't comprehend?


I know you usually fall on Team Incompetence on this issue.

I'm leaning way on the other end of that. While I think whatever they've got planned will ultimately fail on them because of the hubris of man, I do believe that this is all just really small parts of a grand design.

Not one you're hearing on the WEF Forum videos that they're allowing you to watch on YouTube either. If that was their real plan, you wouldn't be able to watch it on YouTube. Or hell... maybe we're already at that point where they really do just put all their plans out there for us to listen to because they know it doesn't matter anymore.

All I know is that America and Americans don't matter at all to them. If anything, our love of freedom and individuality has become quite a problem for them. One they've been doing their best to stomp out of us for most of my life. A problem that, as proven by the way most of you behaved during Covid, they've been quite successful at dismantling on a core level of a great deal of people.





And like I said last night in another thread, this imaginary world we're living in ends when the US printing presses stop. And instead of having neighborhoods built up with family and friends who knew and trusted each other like we had for a long time in this country, we're going to wake up one day in an unsafe world where nobody really knows anybody they live around, and when that day comes and everyone steps outside and takes a good look around them for the first time, you're going to have a collective panic as everybody's more basic and primal ways of carrying themselves start to manifest en masse. If the government entitlement programs were to start drying up at all at this point in any meaningful way, this could turn into countrywide chaos pretty quick. We've already seen what starts happening only 3 days after foodstamps get delayed in major cities due to some computer glitch. What happens if there are no food stamps for anyone for 3 years?



In 1924, the US debt was $324 Billion. Today it's nearly $37 Trillion. And in 2025 it now requires a $50,000 loan every passing second to keep up the illusion.

At this rate, in only another year or two, the US government will be spending per second what I paid to buy my house to just keep on being as awful as it is.

Oh... Correction. The US will tag on the price of my house to the debt every second. They've spent a lot more than that wasting all the tax revenue they've stolen from us this year on bullshit be

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Tuesday, January 14, 2025 10:19 AM


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SIX: But I'm not saying that the US IS the Bad Guy, because there are a lot of really bad people out there with money who could easily fund enough terror and mayhem to shut down our country completely. They wouldn't have to even send anybody over to do it because they're all here waiting for the word already.

SIGNY: Oh, indeed.

We have so many single points of failure it's astonishing we've managed to avoid catastrophe as far as we have. All we have to do is look at some local emergency- hurricane, fire, blizzard... to see how our systems perform under stress.

It's corruption, SIX. And I don't mean just "money in an envelope". I mean having priorities OTHER THAN the good of/ proper functioning of your area of responsibility, whether that's money, party loyalty, globalist agenda, "woke" ideology, career advancement etc.

Stuff doesn't function on its own. It needs people to actively get shit done and make sure it's heading in the right direction. When people take their eye off the ball ... if not actively sabotage operations... that's when things decay.

Systems can only afford so many parasites.

SIX: Well that's the real question of our age, isn't it?

Did we destroy the best thing that Humanity ever built because of sheer incompetence and greed?

Or are there people playing a Chess game that we can't comprehend?



Well, yes. And yes.

There's no way that Justine Trudeau is playing 5D chess. Or Urusula von der Crazy or Annalena "360deg" Baerbock. Or Joe Biden*. (Altho in his heyday he was quite the international grifter.) Most Congresspeole get their news from staffers, who scour NYT, CNN, FT, WaPo etc, for "news"
and are notoriously ill-informed wheeler dealers.

But that's not to say that there aren't real manipulators at the top of the food chain.


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I know you usually fall on Team Incompetence on this issue.

I'm leaning way on the other end of that. While I think whatever they've got planned will ultimately fail on them because of the hubris of man, I do believe that this is all just really small parts of a grand design.

Not one you're hearing on the WEF Forum videos that they're allowing you to watch on YouTube either. If that was their real plan, you wouldn't be able to watch it on YouTube.

All I know is that America and Americans don't matter at all to them. If anything, our love of freedom and individuality has become quite a problem for them. One they've been doing their best to stomp out of us for most of my life.

And like I said last night in another thread, this imaginary world we're living in ends when the US printing presses stop.

In 1924, the US debt was $324 Billion. Today it's nearly $37 Trillion. And it now costs us $50,000 per second to keep up the illusion.

At this rate, in only another year or two, the US government will be spending per second what I paid to buy my house to just keep on being as awful as it is.

Oh... Correction. The US will tag on the price of my house to the debt every second. They've spent a lot more than that wasting all the tax revenue they've stolen from us this year on bullshit before putting us ever-further into debt to fund the stuff that actually matters.



I don't think there's one grand design overseen by a mastermind. But there are extremely wealthy people aiming for more power and more money, and they have a whole set of employees and politicians and contractors and publicists who can be bought. So they created a corrupt heirarchy.

You know how they say "a fish rots from the head"? It's true.

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