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Elections; 2024

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 6:05 AM

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The Trumptards I know are boisterous about their superior judgment of people



You've just explained 95% if your posts here, stupid.

None of your insults hold any water when they're nothing but mere projections of your own behavior.

6ix, your entire life is testimony that Trumptards can survive into middle age despite a long series of stupid mistakes and untruthful behavior that will kill them when luck finally runs out. Because of great wealth, America is absurdly forgiving of foolishness, dishonesty, and incompetence. In a less hospitable environment than America, a country that was not in anyway created by Trumptards, despite their silly certainty that they are the very foundation of all America achieved, you and Trump would have been long dead. You two survive because of the work done by people who are actually nothing at all like you two, who get by without doing anything to keep America going strong.



Thank you for illustrating my point. You are so very easy to manipulate. Would you like to prove it again?

Shut the fuck up if the answer is no.

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 6:06 AM

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Donald Trump and the Musk business model

By Joel Eissenberg | January 1, 2025 11:49 am

https://angrybearblog.com/2025/01/donald-trump-and-the-musk-business-m
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Musk, with an amount of money that was meaningless to him, was able to finance Trump’s campaign, essentially. And all the threats that Trump is now going to issue – ‘I’m going to primary people, I’m going to sue people’ – Musk is going to pay for that, not Trump. And when Trump needs money for anything, he will ask Musk.

Unless Trump breaks it off right now, he’s going to be in this kind of dependent relationship for the rest of the way, because you get used to people giving you money. Trump is a little guy, and Musk is a big guy when it comes to having money. And I think if you were a friend of Trump, you would be worried.

The given rationale for electing the “billionaire” Trump was that his wealth freed him to become a populist and speak the truth on behalf of the middle class and working class. But now, Trump has been exposed as a financial charlatan who is completely beholden to Musk. Musk, born in South Africa to South African parents cannot run for president himself, but he doesn’t need to. He has bought the presidency. On the evidence, I’d say he made a safe investment.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Awwwwwwww....

Poor Angry Bear jealous of all that money he doesn't have.

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:49 PM

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Awwwwwwww....

Poor Angry Bear jealous of all that money he doesn't have.

:(

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Trump Uses ‘Terror’ Attack by U.S. Army Vet to Stir Up Anti-Immigrant Hate

An erroneous Fox News report sparked a rash of anti-immigrant comments from MAGA world, including from Donald Trump and J.D. Vance themselves.

Donald Trump and J.D. Vance were among the Republicans who rushed to link the mass killing — which left 15 dead, including the suspect, and dozens injured on Wednesday—to the southern border.

Officials said later in the afternoon that it had no evidence tying the attack to the border. The FBI said the terrorist was 42-year-old Shamsud-Din Jabbar, a Texas native who spent eight years in the military. He allegedly gained access to the Ford pickup truck using Turo, an app that works similarly to Airbnb for renting vehicles from private owners.

A photo shared by the U.S. Army of Staff Sgt. Shamsuddin Jabbar, then the information technology team chief for the 82nd Airborne Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-uses-new-orleans-attack-by-america
n-shamsud-din-jabbar-to-stir-up-anti-immigrant-hate
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:53 PM

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Awwwwwwww....

Poor Angry Bear jealous of all that money he doesn't have.

:(

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Trump Uses ‘Terror’ Attack by U.S. Army Vet to Stir Up Anti-Immigrant Hate



Good. Rent's due. GTFO. All of you.

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 8:05 PM

President-elect Donald Trump once again toyed with the idea on Tuesday of not just implementing large-scale tariffs on foreign imports, but using them to replace the income tax system outright.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The Tariffs, and Tariffs alone, created this vast wealth for our Country. Then we switched over to Income Tax. We were never so wealthy as during this period. Tariffs will pay off our debt and, MAKE AMERICA WEALTHY AGAIN!

More at https://www.rawstory.com/trump-tariffs-2670719603/

So the don’t-know-much-about-history gang are at it again, asserting that the Gilded Age was an era of unique prosperity. What all such arguments require is that we memory-hole the era in which America actually achieved its most rapid progress: the astonishing boom that followed World War II.

The comparison isn’t even close. Here (using data from Historical Statistics of the United States, Millennial Edition) are percent growth rates of real GDP per capita and real wages during the Gilded Age and the postwar generation:


But here’s the thing: from the point of view of either a conventional conservative or a Trumpist the great postwar boom shouldn’t, maybe even couldn’t have happened. If you believe that progressive taxation destroys incentives, you can’t understand how the economy could have done so well during a period when the top marginal tax rate never fell below 70 percent.

More at https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/americas-forgotten-generation-of

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 10:53 PM

I see you're riding your taxation hobby horse again, SECOND.

Just bc two events take place at the same time doesn't mean a causal relationship. Like all correlations, A can cause B, B can cause A, A and B are both caused by C, or it might be a coincidence.


The post-WWII boom and high marginal tax rates were both indirectly caused by WWII.

Our prosperity was based on the fact that we were the only major industrial power left standing after the others had been bombed to smithereens and millions killed.

High taxes were imposed to pay for the war. If high raxes had NOT been imposed, we still would have been the last major industrial power left standing.

I agree that we need to equalize wealth, and I agree that the average person is getting fucked on taxes. I also agree that reducing taxes on the already-wealthy won't make us prosperous.

But prosperity and taxes are two separate issues that you CONSTANTLY conflate, and no matter how many times you repeat it, they're still separate.

Why don't you come up with a plan for how we can be prosperous again? That would be a lot more forward-looking.


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AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 11:32 PM

What Sigs is asking you to do is to finally grow up and stop playing Checkers and move up to Chess.

What do you expect? He's still posting articles by Paul Krugman. The "Expert" who hasn't called a damn thing right in 4 years.

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Saturday, January 4, 2025 12:04 AM

I watched the American election unfold at a bar in London

By Imogen West-Knights | Jan 03, 2025

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/01/donald-trump-news-election
-republicans-london.html


With only a few weeks to go before Trump’s inauguration, we (in the UK) still aren’t talking about Trump much, and we like it that way. I get the sense that over here, people are clinging to the last moments when it will be possible to ignore him — a phenomenon I’m told has taken hold of more than a few people in the States too.

But eventually, we will have to care. What goes on in America becomes our business, one way or another. “When America sneezes, the world catches a cold,” as the saying goes, a phrase I had to Google because I misremembered it as “When America shits its pants, the whole world smells it.” Wrong, and gross, but maybe there’s something to it. What we’re worried about catching off you guys come Jan. 20 feels less like a case of the sniffles and more like, I don’t know, dysentery.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, January 4, 2025 12:26 AM

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Why don't you come up with a plan for how we can be prosperous again? That would be a lot more forward-looking.

I already did come up with a plan that is guaranteed to work. From your viewpoint, it would be an experiment that started 62 years ago in my family in Texas. From my perspective, it is a proven fact. The most important people in my life, parents/sisters/my mother's sister/her children joined the same religion. You can read about it at https://www.jw.org/en/

There was also a control group for this experiment: the rest of the family who didn't join. Run this experiment for 62 years and the ones who didn't join are now the ones who voted for Trump.

Results: everyone in the family who joined jw.org is prosperous. Even my parents, who worked at Burger King, became rich (multi-millionaires) and lived long lives, filled with health and mental stability. Nobody in this part of the family retired from working. They are, or were, restaurateurs, teachers, nurses, engineers, even doctors and scientists in the next generation. They never cheat on taxes; they never vote; they pay no attention to politics.

What happened to the non-believers in the family, except believing in Trump? Endless problems that they are convinced only Trump can solve for them: financial, family, health, emotional/psychological, and legal. They don't work. They don't truly follow any religion despite claiming they are Christians. They don't have a purpose in life except to be bitter that the Democrats are standing in the way of an imagined America Made Great Again. America is already great, except for the parts that Trumptards control.

This always gets confusing because numerous people act and think like Trump supporters without being voters for Trump. Not at all surprising to me, their lives are crappy because of the way they live.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, January 4, 2025 2:37 AM

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Originally posted by second:
I watched the American election unfold at a bar in London

By Imogen West-Knights | Jan 03, 2025

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/01/donald-trump-news-election
-republicans-london.html


With only a few weeks to go before Trump’s inauguration, we (in the UK) still aren’t talking about Trump much, and we like it that way. I get the sense that over here, people are clinging to the last moments when it will be possible to ignore him — a phenomenon I’m told has taken hold of more than a few people in the States too.

But eventually, we will have to care. What goes on in America becomes our business, one way or another. “When America sneezes, the world catches a cold,” as the saying goes, a phrase I had to Google because I misremembered it as “When America shits its pants, the whole world smells it.” Wrong, and gross, but maybe there’s something to it. What we’re worried about catching off you guys come Jan. 20 feels less like a case of the sniffles and more like, I don’t know, dysentery.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Come off it, lad.

You're talking about Trump right now. You've talked about Trump every single day for 8 years, and there has never been a single moment you haven't thought about him.

Enjoy your next 4 years.



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