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Friday, December 20, 2024 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

The government has shut down 10 times since 1980 and neither Trump nor Musk had anything to do with it. Democrats were to blame for the 2018 shutdown.

https://www.history.com/news/us-government-shutdowns-facts

There was a spending bill in Dec 2018 that Trump vetoed because it did not include $5.7 billion for a Texas-Mexico Wall. After Trump stalled for a month, he signed the bill, ending the shutdown but never getting his $5.7 billion. A month-long Trump tantrum that was all sound and fury signifying nothing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_United_States_federal_
government_shutdown


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, December 21, 2024 1:00 AM

Right. Exactly.

Democrats created the 2018 shutdown.

They also did it by going against the will of the American People and doing whatever they can to stop anybody from keeping the fucking aliens out. One of the top 3 reasons why you lost in November.


Since National Security is ONE of the ONLY jobs that our Federal Government has, it says a lot that they're $36 Trillion in debt and there is no such thing as national security in America because of Democrats.

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Saturday, December 21, 2024 4:15 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Right. Exactly.

Democrats created the 2018 shutdown.

They also did it by going against the will of the American People and doing whatever they can to stop anybody from keeping the fucking aliens out. One of the top 3 reasons why you lost in November.


Since National Security is ONE of the ONLY jobs that our Federal Government has, it says a lot that they're $36 Trillion in debt and there is no such thing as national security in America because of Democrats.

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Trump waited 36 days before signing a bill. During the wait, the government was shutdown. All Trump had to do to end the shutdown was pick up a pen and sign the paper that was on his desk. The shutdown was all Trump's fault.

There is a $36 trillion debt because more than a $1 trillion in taxes are not collected each year. The IRS only collected $750 per year from Trump, so I'm pretty sure its his fault that his taxes haven't been paid, not the fault of the IRS.

Trillion dollars in unpaid taxes per year
https://www.google.com/search?q=trillion+dollars+in+unpaid+taxes+per+y
ear


Trump paid 750 dollars in taxes per year
https://www.google.com/search?q=Trump+paid+750+dollars+in+taxes+per+ye
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, December 21, 2024 4:21 AM

The target of dozens of death threats linked to the MAGA movement made a public plea to Republicans to halt Donald Trump’s vow of retribution Friday.

Eric Swalwell (D-CA) and his family have been hit by many “credible” threats that have been investigated by law enforcement.

“People are in jail for wanting to kill me and my kids," he wrote for MSNBC Friday. "I spent $315,000 this past Congress on personal security to protect myself and my family. I know the consequences of dissent."

Swalwell began receiving threats after speaking out on issues including gun control and investigations into Trump.

And he fears that now that Trump is returning to power, and has nominated Kash Patel — a man who has openly called for retribution — to head the FBI, the threats will worsen.

More at https://www.rawstory.com/eric-swalwell-trump-2670649419/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, December 21, 2024 5:17 AM

Trump insisted that any deal to keep the government open must include a two-year suspension of the U.S. debt limit. Friday’s passage — without Trump’s debt limit hike — served as a reminder to the incoming president of just how difficult it is to control the notoriously fractious House Republican caucus. If the bill passes the Senate in its current form, Biden is expected to sign it into law quickly. (If Trump were President, he wouldn't sign and the government would shut down for Xmas.)

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/20/government-shutdown-house-speaker-trum
p-vote.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, December 21, 2024 5:19 PM

If Less Than 115,000 Votes Had Switched in Three Battleground States, Harris Would Have Beaten Trump

The Electoral College’s count Tuesday confirms that Trump fell dramatically short of a “massive mandate.”

By John Nichols | December 20, 2024

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/three-battleground-states-d
efeated-trump
/

Dave Wasserman, the well-regarded number cruncher for the Cook Political Report, noted, “the 2024 election was decided by 229,766 votes across Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin out of about 155.2 million cast nationally.”

If the Harris campaign had mobilized more base voters in those states—rather than squandering precious time on Republican-outreach events with Liz Cheney—they might well have made up the difference. Or, if they could have developed strategies to get just 114,884 working-class Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania voters to shift from Trump to Harris, the Democrat would have prevailed.

That’s roughly the number of people that a pair of Taylor Swift shows drew in Philadelphia this year. In Wisconsin, historically the most closely contested of the battleground states, a shift of less than 15,000 votes would have given the state to Harris.

It’s not uncommon for presidents to boast that they have more support than is actually the case, and it’s certainly not Trump’s first time doing so. Countless presidents have peddled a fantasy of broad popularity in order to gain an advantage in the wrangling over Cabinet picks and policy initiatives.

But the voters did not hand Trump a massive mandate.

Rather, they produced a result so close that, with just a slight shift of votes, the Electoral College would have made a Democrat the 47th president of the United States.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, December 21, 2024 6:08 PM

False.

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Saturday, December 21, 2024 7:38 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
False.

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The Republicans in the House of Representatives are already running for reelection. Their first step to stay in power was to give Trump a big defeat, today:

Congress averts shutdown after House GOP drops Trump’s debt limit demand
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/20/politics/house-senate-vote-shutdown-bil
l/index.html


Trump won the election by a few thousand votes in the right places. The Republicans in the House of Representatives know that, which is why they didn't give a shit what Trump wants if it doesn't align with what they want. Obeying random commands arising from Trump's mental illness is NOT their top priority.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, December 22, 2024 4:29 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
False.

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The Republicans in the House of Representatives are already running for reelection. Their first step to stay in power was to give Trump a big defeat, today:



Also untrue.

The original bill was 1,547 pages of bullshit and pork.

All Democrats got to go home with on Christmas was a 118 page bill.

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Trump won the election by a few thousand votes in the right places.


Get fucked, stupid.

We're talking multiples more votes than Joe Biden winning the electoral college with 44,000 votes over 3 states 4 years ago.

You treated that as a total mandate. Wide open borders for 4 years. EV mandates. Blanket censorship. College debt repayment. 2 new wars by proxy. Hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars flushed down the drain in Ukraine and both sides of the Israel/Palestine conflict. You even passed laws removing gas stoves from future American's lives.

Not enough for you?

How about the Harris Coronation, instead of letting you decide via primary who was going to lose to Trump?


Democrats have walked around the last 4 fucking years like they had a mandate.

ON EVERYTHING.

It will be fun watching you cry for the next 4 years now. Especially when you present articles like this making a weak case that pales in comparison to the exact opposite argument for Trump 4 years ago that you completely ignored all this time while Democrats swung their dicks all around and did whatever they wanted to like they own the place.


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The Republicans in the House of Representatives know that, which is why they didn't give a shit what Trump wants if it doesn't align with what they want. Obeying random commands arising from Trump's mental illness is NOT their top priority.



You've got your story here all wrong because you've made the conscious choice to continue watching brainrot Lefty media that you've seen lie to you time and time and time again.

So I'm not even going to bother arguing you on this non-issue again. Get yourself an education.

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Sunday, December 22, 2024 4:26 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

You've got your story here all wrong because you've made the conscious choice to continue watching brainrot Lefty media that you've seen lie to you time and time and time again.

So I'm not even going to bother arguing you on this non-issue again. Get yourself an education.

I can see why Trump got your vote. Trumptards and Trump are crazy and don't know it:

Using only his mouth, Trump will remove illegal aliens and take control of the Panama Canal

22 Dec 2024

United States President-elect Donald Trump has threatened to demand control of the Panama Canal after accusing Panama of charging excessive rates on US ships passing through one of the busiest waterways in the world.

“Our Navy and Commerce have been treated in a very unfair and injudicious way. The fees being charged by Panama are ridiculous,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform on Saturday.

“This complete ‘rip-off’ of our Country will immediately stop.”

The US largely built the canal in 1914 and administrated territory surrounding the passage for decades. But Washington fully handed control of the canal to Panama in 1999 after a period of joint administration.

Trump also hinted at China’s growing influence around the canal, which connects the Atlantic to the Pacific oceans.

“It was solely for Panama to manage, not China, or anyone else,” he said. “We would and will NEVER let it fall into the wrong hands!”

The post was an exceedingly rare example of a US leader saying he could push a sovereign country to hand over territory.

“It was not given for the benefit of others, but merely as a token of cooperation with us and Panama. If the moral and legal principles of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, and without question,” Trump said.

Last month, Trump said he would impose tariffs on Mexican and Canadian imports on day one of his administration and that the measures would remain until the “invasion” of undocumented migrants and drugs came to an end.

“Both Mexico and Canada have the absolute right and power to easily solve this long-simmering problem. We hereby demand that they use this power, and until such time that they do, it is time for them to pay a very big price!” he posted on his Truth Social platform.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/22/trump-threatens-to-take-back
-control-of-panama-canal-over-ridiculous-fees


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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