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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 5:57 AM

When I see TPTB flying here and there in the cheap seats, eating beans instead of Wagyu steak, staying in youth hostels instead of exclusive resorts, and donating 90% of their wealth to things like sustainable farming... then I'll know they're serious about climate change. Failing that, they're just trying to extract more resources from 99.9999999% of everyone else.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 6:35 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, gee. Whooda thunk that if all of "your" plans to combat global warming involve making the poor poorer they would meet serious resistance?



This.


Remember... People like Stephen Colbert said he would be happy and proud to be paying $15/gal for gasoline 3.5 years ago and his idiot audience clapped like seals.

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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 3:08 AM

Wildfires have turned the Arctic into a net carbon emitter. That’s bad news.

By Umair Irfan | Dec 10, 2024, 3:00 PM CST

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration released its annual Arctic Report Card this week, pooling research from the planet’s north. As what is likely the hottest year on record draws to a close, researchers have found the Arctic region is warming four times faster than the global rate.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/2024-arcti
c-report-card-documents-rapid-dramatic-change


While it doesn’t have the dense, fast-growing biomass of a tropical rainforest, its vegetation does breathe in about a billion metric tons of carbon dioxide per year, about a fifth of humanity’s total annual output. Beneath the tundra, permafrost, a layer of soil that remains frozen year-round, keeps microbes at bay that would ordinarily decompose vegetation. The net result is that Arctic soils store enormous amounts of carbon, upward of 1.6 trillion metric tons across the region. That’s about double the amount of carbon already in the atmosphere.

But now that the climate is warming in the Arctic, that 1.6 trillion tons is being released back into the atmosphere, faster and faster as the climate gets warmer and warmer.

More at https://www.vox.com/climate/390530/arctic-tundra-carbon-sink-emitter-c
limate-change


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 6:47 PM

NOAA Arctic Report Card: Update for 2024 - Tracking recent environmental changes, with 12 essays prepared by an international team of 97 researchers from 11 different countries and an independent peer review organized by the Arctic Monitoring and Assessment Programme of the Arctic Council. https://arctic.noaa.gov/report-card/report-card-2024/



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 7:04 PM

13 Misconceptions About Global Warming



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 8:11 PM

All very true and very disturbing.

Now. How about backing something besides high-tech get-rich-quick VC projects, and instead things that might actually improve people's lives?

Addressing rapid population growth with education for women..
Urban forests everywhere to cool down cities.
Replacing inefficient electrical grids with efficent ones.
Building renovation to improve energy efficiency
Solar panel rebates in sunny areas
Sustainable farming grants (cover crop, no till) with maximum per-farm amounts to benefit small and medium sized farms more.
Replacing coal burning power plants with natgas.
Better forestry practices including black-earth firebreaks and reintroducing the beaver
Capturing methane that's being flared off, and using that to generate electricity.
Strict CAFE standards.
Banning or makjng very expensive private jet flights.
Cutting the military budget 90%.
Strict CAFE standards

I even heard a proposal that I've been noodling on ever since: levying a hefty carbon tax, the proceeds of which are returned to the people in the form of a progressive rebate. (Instaed of using it to fund various government-to-corporation get rich quick schemes). This has two benefits: it skews consumption away from energy or carbon heavy items and reduces wealth/income inequality.

Dealing with global climate change isnt going to be about One Big Thing, but lots of medium-sized things.




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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
All very true and very disturbing.

Now. How about backing something besides high-tech get-rich-quick VC projects, and instead things that might actually improve people's lives?

Addressing rapid population growth with education for women..
Urban forests everywhere to cool down cities.
Replacing inefficient electrical grids with efficent ones.
Building renovation to improve energy efficiency
Solar panel rebates in sunny areas
Sustainable farming grants (cover crop, no till) with maximum per-farm amounts to benefit small and medium sized farms more.
Replacing coal burning power plants with natgas.
Better forestry practices including black-earth firebreaks and reintroducing the beaver
Capturing methane that's being flared off, and using that to generate electricity.
Strict CAFE standards.
Banning or makjng very expensive private jet flights.
Cutting the military budget 90%.
Strict CAFE standards

I even heard a proposal that I've been noodling on ever since: levying a hefty carbon tax, the proceeds of which are returned to the people in the form of a progressive rebate. (Instaed of using it to fund various government-to-corporation get rich quick schemes). This has two benefits: it skews consumption away from energy or carbon heavy items and reduces wealth/income inequality.

Dealing with global climate change isnt going to be about One Big Thing, but lots of medium-sized things.




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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


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Signym, if you google "What is Trump's energy policy?", none of those things are imaginable. https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+Trump%27s+energy+policy

What would Trump 2.0 mean for coal?
https://www.eenews.net/articles/what-would-trump-2-0-mean-for-coal/
Trump's campaign insists the former president is poised to revive the sagging coal industry.

Alternatively, google "What is the Democrats' energy policy?" and nearly all of those things are possible.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, December 11, 2024 10:41 PM

Who said I agree with Trump's energy policy???

You're such a turd.


Yanno, if you care so much about climate change, you would have advocated for something besides the globalist power-and-money-grab approach. Instead, you couldn't break from that mold and got the big fat rejection you deserve.

In future, advocate for something pro-human. You might actually have some success.

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Saturday, December 14, 2024 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Who said I agree with Trump's energy policy???

In future, advocate for something pro-human. You might actually have some success.

Pro-human? I'm no mind-reader but that doesn't mean anything more than no carbon energy has to be cheaper for these unspecified human consumers than fossil fuel energy. Cost more? That is anti-human!

How much cheaper before your pro-human solution is acceptable to them? Ten percent cheaper? Fifty percent? Free energy? Once you pick a price, the pro-human solution has to pass their widely varying esthetics. Does everything (cars, buildings, landscapes) have to appear precisely the same as the fossil fuel versions? Can there be a slight amount of change? What if new power lines horrify them? What if they insist that only gasoline and diesel vehicles are what they understand, while battery power is incomprehensible to them? Do they hate solar power? Hate wind power? Fear fission and fusion power?

Then there are the people who stubbornly refuse to believe there is such a thing as climate change, and are psychologically indifferent to the consequences of their actions on other people, etc.

Why not wait until Star Trek technology is reality before choosing a pro-human solution, the best one? Surely the Earth can wait a few hundred years for the political process to settle on something? What is the hurry?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, December 14, 2024 11:30 PM

Model predictions of global geologic hydrogen resources

Science Advances | 13 Dec 2024 | Vol 10, Issue 50

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.ado0955

Abstract
Geologic hydrogen could be a low-carbon primary energy resource; however, the magnitude of Earth’s subsurface endowment has not yet been assessed. Knowledge of the occurrence and behavior of natural hydrogen on Earth has been combined with information from geologic analogs to construct a mass balance model to predict the resource potential. Given the associated uncertainty, stochastic model results predict a wide range of values for the potential in-place hydrogen resource . . .

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Massive new energy source discovered hiding under Earth’s surface

Experts are divided over how useful it could be.

By Noa Leach | December 13, 2024 at 1:00 pm

https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/geologic-hydrogen-reserves

Experts are unsure, however, if we should dedicate resources to extracting this. “To suck up hydrogen at a scale required to make a contribution to bringing down emissions and tackling the climate emergency would require an enormous global initiative, for which we simply don't have time,” Prof Bill McGuire, Earth scientist at University College London (UCL) who was not involved in the study, told BBC Science Focus.

“It would also need a massive amount of supporting infrastructure in terms of rigs, access roads, storage, transport and more. Furthermore, it seems to me that we might now know how much hydrogen there is, but that is not the same as knowing where it is.

There is more than enough free energy available from wind and the Sun alone, and the technologies are straightforward, well-tested and well-established, so I really don't see the need for exploiting what is, ultimately, another finite resource.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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