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Elections; 2024
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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 7:47 AM
Quote:6ixStringJack, you are full of bullshit. So is Senator Mike Lee of Utah, who goes on and on with a bullshit explanation of Social Security:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm very happy with this shift in your Legacy Media's tone.
At any other point in time in the last 8 years, all of these articles would have called Trump and his supporters racists, screaming "HOW DARE HE!!!!"
Now these amateur activists are just writing fanfic about an economy they could never understand since they haven't figured out how to balance their checkbooks.
They must have gotten that directive from on high to stop calling Trump and his supporters Nazis. It must have killed Gupta and Noll to write that article the way they were told to write it.
Last night, Sen. Mike Lee wrote a blueprint for destroying Social Security.
Lee’s thread was quickly amplified by Elon Musk, who Donald Trump has put in charge of slashing our earned benefits. I’m sure you know Lee’s blueprint is bullshit and that Social Security is a social insurance plan which is paid for the way all such programs are paid for.
https://digbysblog.net/2024/12/03/here-comes-the-third-rail/
Here is Senator Mike Lee's thread:
1. Of all the deceptive sales techniques the U.S. government has used on the American people, one of them—the Social Security Act—gets far too little attention. Buckle up because this is a wild ride.
2. In 1935, the American people were sold a bill of goods. They were told, “Pay into this system, and it’ll be YOUR money for retirement.” Sounds great, right?
3. But here’s where it gets juicy, in a really ugly way. Two years later, when the Supreme Court was considering the constitutionality of the Social Security Act, the government did a complete 180.
4. The government—through Assistant Attorney General Robert Jackson—argued in essence, “Oh no, this isn’t YOUR money at all. This is a TAX, and we can do whatever we want with it.” Classic bait and switch.
5. Let’s not forget the ruling in Helvering v. Davis, where the Supreme Court upheld the Social Security Act by embracing the government’s argument / admission that what people pay into Social Security is tax revenue—available to be used as Congress may direct—and not at all money belonging to those who paid it.
6. So, to summarize: the proponents of the Social Security Act told American workers that what they paid into the system would remain *their* money, not the government’s—to get Congress to pass it—and then told the courts the exact opposite when defending the Act’s constitutionality. The Supreme Court accepted the government’s argument, to the great detriment of the American people.
7. Now, let’s talk about what happens to “your money” once it’s in the government’s hands. Spoiler alert: it’s not managed like your IRA or 401(k).
8. First of all, this money doesn’t sit in a nice, individual account with your name on it. No, it goes into a huge account called the “Social Security Trust Fund.”
9. But here’s the kicker—the government routinely raids this fund. Yes, you heard that right. They take “your money” and use it for whatever the current Congress deems “necessary.”
10. Every few years, there’s talk in Congress about “saving Social Security.” I’ve introduced and cosponsored a number of measures over the years that would fix it. But most in Congress show little desire to fix it, and are instead constantly looking for ways to “borrow” from it—with no plan to put it back.
11. And the returns? Forget about compound interest or stock market gains. Your “investment” in Social Security can give you a return lower than inflation.
12. If you had put the same amount into literally ANYTHING else—a mutual fund, real estate, even a savings account—you’d be better off by the time you reached retirement age, even if the government kept some of it!
13. Do the math: with Social Security, you’re looking at a return that’s pathetic compared to market aver
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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 8:03 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ixStringJack, you are full of bullshit.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm very happy with this shift in your Legacy Media's tone.
At any other point in time in the last 8 years, all of these articles would have called Trump and his supporters racists, screaming "HOW DARE HE!!!!"
Now these amateur activists are just writing fanfic about an economy they could never understand since they haven't figured out how to balance their checkbooks.
They must have gotten that directive from on high to stop calling Trump and his supporters Nazis. It must have killed Gupta and Noll to write that article the way they were told to write it.
Am I now?
How so?
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 9:27 AM
Quote:Do you remember writing this?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
6ixStringJack, you are full of bullshit.
Am I now?
How so?
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Quote:A no bullshit answer would be: They don't get hearings. Not anymore they don't. If you're here illegally, you're loaded onto a cattle truck, along with your babies, and sent to the concentration camp, the gas chamber, and then deposed of by cremation. Does that sound too Nazi? Nazis weren't bullshitters like you are, 6ixStringJack. Oh, you will do something more polite like put them on buses for Canada and Mexico? Are you sure Canada and Mexico will let those buses in?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
They don't get hearings. Not anymore they don't.
If you're here illegally, you're out the fucking door. Period. You and your illegal kids. No more anchor babies either.
I know how to persuade the Canadians and Mexicans: threaten them. Bomb them if necessary. If that doesn't work, tell them the buses' next stop is at the gas chamber. Maybe that will open the border for deportation to Canada and Mexico.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 9:33 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Do you remember writing this?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
6ixStringJack, you are full of bullshit.
Am I now?
How so?
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
They don't get hearings. Not anymore they don't.
If you're here illegally, you're out the fucking door. Period. You and your illegal kids. No more anchor babies either.
Yes I do.
Quote:
A no bullshit answer would be: They don't get hearings. Not anymore they don't. If you're here illegally, you're loaded onto a cattle truck, along with your babies, and sent to the concentration camp, the gas chamber, and then deposed of by cremation. Does that sound too Nazi? Nazis weren't bullshitters like you are, 6ixStringJack. Oh, you will do something more polite like put them on buses for Canada and Mexico? Are you sure Canada and Mexico will let those buses in?
No. That's the answer a psychopath who's convinced it's Joe Biden*'s duty to assassinate Trump on Inauguration Day would say.
I don't give one single shit if Canada or Mexico won't let the busses in. They'll get out of the way if those busses are coming at them 60MPH.
Once Trump cuts off any Federal funding for states harboring them, most of the illegal invaders will be leaving on their own and even Democrat politicians will be helping get them out.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 9:40 AM
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It looks as though the votes that CNN already had counted that Google didn't have counted have shown up today. Both sides have gotten quite a few more.
I'm glad I kept track of this because we can one day go back and see what the ratio of votes for Harris vs. votes for Trump were as the last 3 Million votes were counted. It's been INANELY lopsided in favor of Harris.
I mentioned when Harris hit 74 Million that it was possibly the last 1 Million barrier anyone would hit. With a huge head start, Trump eventually did get over the next 1 Million hump, but Harris has gotten so many in the mean time she's about to lap him and do it again.
POPULAR VOTE:
77,151,288 for Trump (49.9%) / 74,788,460 votes for Harris (48.4%).
Total votes counted: 151,939,748
Trump's lead: 2,362,828
Holy shit they are not even pretending to hide the fact they're counting all the fabricated votes for Harris right now.
74,898,009 votes for Harris (48.4%) / 77,193,105 votes for Trump (49.9%)
Just since writing this last update only a few hours earlier today, they've given less than 42,000 for Trump and Harris has gotten an additional 120,000 votes. There is not a single district in the entire country that gave Harris this much of an advantage.
Looks like they're going to magically push her over 75 Million before the mail-in fraud ballots are finished.
Go back and look at the history of the last few weeks and see for yourself.
Once the votes are finally finished, I'll go back and lay out the details.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 4:08 PM
Quote:President James Buchanan could hear and see the future Confederate hierarchy plot the overthrow of the USA because the plotters were Congressmen in Washington, DC. But Buchanan did nothing and for that very reason Buchanan is rated the worst President by historians. President Joseph Biden can hear and see plotters to overthrow the USA because the plotters are, again, in Washington, DC. But Biden is doing nothing. I rate Biden as one of the worst presidents if he continues doing nothing.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
A no bullshit answer would be: They don't get hearings. Not anymore they don't. If you're here illegally, you're loaded onto a cattle truck, along with your babies, and sent to the concentration camp, the gas chamber, and then deposed of by cremation. Does that sound too Nazi? Nazis weren't bullshitters like you are, 6ixStringJack. Oh, you will do something more polite like put them on buses for Canada and Mexico? Are you sure Canada and Mexico will let those buses in?
No. That's the answer a psychopath who's convinced it's Joe Biden*'s duty to assassinate Trump on Inauguration Day would say.
I don't give one single shit if Canada or Mexico won't let the busses in. They'll get out of the way if those busses are coming at them 60MPH.
Once Trump cuts off any Federal funding for states harboring them, most of the illegal invaders will be leaving on their own and even Democrat politicians will be helping get them out.
As for 6ixStringJack's and Trump's schemes to dump 21 million (11 million?) deportees in Canada and Mexico, well, you two haven't gotten Canada's and Mexico's cooperation. Maybe buying cooperation with threats of 100% tariffs on Canada and Mexico is not as stupid as ramming busloads of deportees through the border into Canada and Mexico, but it is still laughable. Maybe Trump should follow the simple and direct Nazi plan and build gas chambers and crematoriums to rid a country of undesirables? I will sell Trump the natural gas for the incinerators as a way to educate the typical American voter who is so stupid that it will require Trump to go full Hitler for those voters to understand that Trump is pure evil in the shape of a fat, funny-looking loudmouth.
Quote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the
Most recent surveys consider James Buchanan, Lincoln's predecessor, the worst president for his leadership during the build-up to the Civil War. Several rank Lincoln's successor Andrew Johnson last for blocking civil rights for freed slaves and undermining Reconstruction. Donald Trump has consistently polled among the bottom four and twice in last place due to breaking longstanding norms such as the peaceful transition of power, an American precedent not broken since Washington first set it. The scandal-ridden presidency of Warren G. Harding also frequently lands in the bottom four.
_United_States
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 4:58 PM
If Trump will be destroying people, why NOT make a profit?
Guess Who Profits From Trump’s Deportation Plan? Private Equity Firms.
Private equity firms play a key role in America’s prison system. If Trump carries out his plans for mass deportations, they stand to benefit.
By Matt Sledge | December 4, 2024, 6:04 a.m.
https://theintercept.com/2024/12/04/trump-mass-deportation-private-equ
ity-prisons/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 5:38 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:President James Buchanan could hear and see the future Confederate hierarchy plot the overthrow of the USA because the plotters were Congressmen in Washington, DC. But Buchanan did nothing and for that very reason Buchanan is rated the worst President by historians. President Joseph Biden can hear and see plotters to overthrow the USA because the plotters are, again, in Washington, DC. But Biden is doing nothing. I rate Biden as one of the worst presidents if he continues doing nothing.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
A no bullshit answer would be: They don't get hearings. Not anymore they don't. If you're here illegally, you're loaded onto a cattle truck, along with your babies, and sent to the concentration camp, the gas chamber, and then deposed of by cremation. Does that sound too Nazi? Nazis weren't bullshitters like you are, 6ixStringJack. Oh, you will do something more polite like put them on buses for Canada and Mexico? Are you sure Canada and Mexico will let those buses in?
No. That's the answer a psychopath who's convinced it's Joe Biden*'s duty to assassinate Trump on Inauguration Day would say.
I don't give one single shit if Canada or Mexico won't let the busses in. They'll get out of the way if those busses are coming at them 60MPH.
Once Trump cuts off any Federal funding for states harboring them, most of the illegal invaders will be leaving on their own and even Democrat politicians will be helping get them out.
As for 6ixStringJack's and Trump's schemes to dump 21 million (11 million?) deportees in Canada and Mexico, well, you two haven't gotten Canada's and Mexico's cooperation. Maybe buying cooperation with threats of 100% tariffs on Canada and Mexico is not as stupid as ramming busloads of deportees through the border into Canada and Mexico, but it is still laughable. Maybe Trump should follow the simple and direct Nazi plan and build gas chambers and crematoriums to rid a country of undesirables? I will sell Trump the natural gas for the incinerators as a way to educate the typical American voter who is so stupid that it will require Trump to go full Hitler for those voters to understand that Trump is pure evil in the shape of a fat, funny-looking loudmouth.Quote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the
Most recent surveys consider James Buchanan, Lincoln's predecessor, the worst president for his leadership during the build-up to the Civil War. Several rank Lincoln's successor Andrew Johnson last for blocking civil rights for freed slaves and undermining Reconstruction. Donald Trump has consistently polled among the bottom four and twice in last place due to breaking longstanding norms such as the peaceful transition of power, an American precedent not broken since Washington first set it. The scandal-ridden presidency of Warren G. Harding also frequently lands in the bottom four.
_United_States
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Are you talking about evil shit again?
I don't read it anymore.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 5:39 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
If Trump will be destroying people, why NOT make a profit?
Guess Who Profits From Trump’s Deportation Plan? Private Equity Firms.
Private equity firms play a key role in America’s prison system. If Trump carries out his plans for mass deportations, they stand to benefit.
By Matt Sledge | December 4, 2024, 6:04 a.m.
https://theintercept.com/2024/12/04/trump-mass-deportation-private-equ
ity-prisons/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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Wednesday, December 4, 2024 8:47 PM
Quote:Think of all the money he could save if Trump publicly kills a few hundred. The rest would get the message and voluntarily deport themselves. Obviously, American citizens who aren't Trumptards would get the same message.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Are you talking about evil shit again?
I don't read it anymore.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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