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they party RFK and Tulsi no longer recognize
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Bernie Sanders perfectly sums up Trump’s 2024 game plan in decades-old video
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bernie-sanders-perfectly-sums-
up-trump-s-2024-game-plan-in-decades-old-video/vi-AA1tLwOb
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Heather Cox Richardson | Nov 08, 2024
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/november-8-2024
Social media has been flooded today with stories of Trump voters who are shocked to learn that tariffs will raise consumer prices as reporters are covering that information. Daniel Laguna of LevelUp warned that Trump’s proposed 60% tariff on Chinese imports could raise the costs of gaming consoles by 40%, so that a PS5 Pro gaming system would cost up to $1,000. One of the old justifications for tariffs was that they would bring factories home, but when the $3 billion shoe company Steve Madden announced yesterday it would reduce its imports from China by half to avoid Trump-promised tariffs, it said it will shift production not to the U.S., but to Cambodia, Vietnam, Mexico, and Brazil.
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In a social media post, Marcotte wrote: “A lot of voters are profoundly ignorant. More so than in the past.” That jumped out to me because there was, indeed, an earlier period in our history when voters were “pickled in right-wing misinformation and rage.”
In the 1850s, white southern leaders made sure that voters did not have access to news that came from outside the American South, and instead steeped them in white supremacist information. They stopped the mail from carrying abolitionist pamphlets, destroyed presses of antislavery newspapers, and drove antislavery southerners out of their region.
Elite enslavers had reason to be concerned about the survival of their system of human enslavement. The land boom of the 1840s, when removal of Indigenous peoples had opened up rich new lands for settlement, had priced many white men out of the market. They had become economically unstable, roving around the country working for wages or stealing to survive. And they deeply resented the fabulously wealthy enslavers who they knew looked down on them.
In 1857, North Carolinian Hinton Rowan Helper wrote a book attacking enslavement. No friend to his Black neighbors, Helper was a virulent white supremacist. But in The Impending Crisis of the South: How to Meet It, he used modern statistics to prove that slavery destroyed economic opportunity for white men, and assailed “the illbreeding and ruffianism of the slaveholding officials.” He noted that voters in the South who did not own slaves outnumbered by far those who did. “Give us fair play, secure to us the right of discussion, the freedom of speech, and we will settle the difficulty at the ballot-box,” he wrote.
In the North the book sold like hotcakes—142,000 copies by fall 1860. But southern leaders banned the book, and burned it, too. They arrested men for selling it and accused northerners of making war on the South. Politicians, newspaper editors, and ministers reinforced white supremacy, warned that the end of slavery would mean race war, and preached that enslavement was God’s law.
When northern voters elected Abraham Lincoln in November 1860 on a platform of containing enslavement in the South, where the sapped soil would soon cut into production, southern leaders decided—usually without the input of voters—to secede from the Union. As leaders promised either that there wouldn’t be a fight, or that if a fight happened it would be quick and painless, poor southern whites rallied to the cause of creating a nation based on white supremacy, reassured by South Carolina senator James Chesnut’s vow that he would personally drink all the blood shed in any threatened civil war.
When Confederate forces fired on Fort Sumter in April 1861, poor white men set out for what they had come to believe was an imperative cause to protect their families and their way of life. By 1862 their enthusiasm had waned, and leaders passed a conscription law. That law permitted wealthy men to hire a substitute and exempted one man to oversee every 20 enslaved men, providing another way for rich men to keep their sons out of danger. Soldiers complained it was a “rich man’s war and a poor man’s fight.”
By 1865 the Civil War had killed or wounded 483,026 men out of a southern white populati
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I have a hand-me-down PS3. I still haven't bought a PS4. I think I can survive a PS5 costing $1,000.
The difference between Joe Biden*'s shit economy and the 2008 market crash is that all the essentials went up. I didn't even notice the 2008 crash because none of the essentials raised in price beyond regular inflation. Rich Democrats will never understand their loss on Tuesday because they just don't get it than the cost of living has raised nearly 40% on essential goods you need just to survive in this country.
For those living at the bottom already, that is untenable.
Fuck your Playstation 5, and fuck you Mrs. Cox-Richardson.
P.S. Pick a last name, you self-important bitch.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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Quote:The only thing Trumptards have got that holds them together is hatred of Democrats. Too bad Democrats keep thinking that Trumptards can be persuaded or reasoned with or bought off with more goodies.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fuck your Playstation 5, and fuck you Mrs. Cox-Richardson.
P.S. Pick a last name, you self-important bitch.
Trump’s coalition is a mess of contradictions — and they’re about to be exposed
There’s a brewing fight over what Trumpism really stands for, one that pits Trump’s top allies against each other.
by Zack Beauchamp | Nov 20, 2024, 6:00 AM CS
https://www.vox.com/politics/386299/trump-administration-coalition-eco
nomic-foreign-policy
There is not one contradiction at the heart of the incoming Trump administration’s political project. There are two.
The first centers on economic policy — or, more fundamentally, the role of government itself.
One camp, exemplified by Elon Musk and traditional big business, sees Trumpism as a celebration of individual greatness and unfettered capitalism. The second camp, including economic nationalists and RFK Jr.’s crunchy hippy types, believes Trumpism has a mandate to try to transform American society, including by attacking the practices of large corporations that do not fit their nationalist vision.
The second centers on foreign policy — or, more fundamentally, the purpose of America in the world.
One camp, exemplified by Secretary of State pick Marco Rubio, sees the United States as the world’s rightful leader, one that has not only a right but an obligation to assert its will across the globe. Another camp, exemplified by Secretary of Defense pick Pete Hegseth, sees the United States as a more ordinary country whose interests are served by being less involved in other countries’ issues like the Ukraine war, but being more violently involved when core American interests are at stake.
Of course, there are areas of overlap between these groups. Both sides of the role-of-government divide believe that America will be well-served by a mass deportation campaign; both sides of the foreign policy divide support aggressively confronting China and waging a global war on jihadist groups like ISIS.
Yet these overlaps are limited and partial points of convergence between deeply divided ideological currents. The real connective tissue between the various Trump 2.0 factions is disdain for the cultural left and the “deep state” in Washington. The anti-left culture war has become, more or less, the central ideological principle of the modern Republican Party.
On the campaign trail, it’s easy for Trump’s diverse set of allies to join together based on this shared animosity. But when governing, the administration will be forced to make choices in areas where its leaders disagree at a fundamental level, leading not only to internal conflict but potentially even policy chaos.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Nah...
Democrats are an afterthought now. We don't think of you at all.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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How Biden Made a Mess of Ukraine
He treated the conflict as a crisis to be managed, not a war to be won.
By Phillips Payson O’Brien | November 30, 2024
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/biden-ukraine-policy
-failures/680834/
Joe Biden filled his administration with geniuses: Rhodes scholars; Ivy League graduates; people with extensive global experience; a national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, whom the president has described as a “once-in-a-generation intellect.” The president himself has been immersed in foreign policy for half a century. Yet despite all of those impressive résumés, the Biden administration has badly mishandled the war in Ukraine, not only hampering a beleaguered ally’s ability to fend off a Russian invasion but also throwing away a remarkable chance to improve America’s global standing and democratic powers’ position in the world.
In defending themselves far more effectively than expected, the Ukrainians showed a capacity to deal Russian President Vladimir Putin a major military defeat, but again and again, Biden and his experts have constrained Ukraine’s ability to fight until it was too late. Just recently, only after his party lost the presidential election, Biden finally gave Ukraine the tightly limited ability to use American weapons on military targets in a small part of Russia. The president’s decision comes after 33 months of war, during which Russia has launched long-range attacks anywhere in Ukraine it wanted, in many cases using Iranian-made weaponry.
Biden has promised the Ukrainians that he will stand by them “for as long as it takes”—but he has nevertheless made sure that the war has gone on much longer than it had to.
Nearly three years in, the conflict is becoming ever more grotesque, and the number of war crimes keeps rising. The conflict has also become more global in nature, as Russia, by economic and military necessity, deepens its alliances with China, Iran, and North Korea. When Putin was gathering his invasion force in late 2021 and early 2022, the United States had good intelligence and tried to warn Ukraine about Russia’s plans. A far harder call was what would happen when an invasion began, and in that respect, the Biden administration didn’t understand what it was looking at. U.S. officials assumed that if Putin went ahead with his plans, Ukraine would stand no chance and the Russians would prevail in short order. Stung by the disastrous American withdrawal from Afghanistan just months earlier, Biden reacted to the new crisis with self-pity: According to the journalist Bob Woodward’s new book, War, the president complained, “Jesus Christ! Now I’ve got to deal with Russia swallowing Ukraine?”
In fact, the United States had greatly overestimated Russian might. Instead of unleashing shock and awe, Putin’s military was a shoddy instrument. It had ample firepower but was also hindered by corruption, uneven morale, command-and-control shortcomings, and logistical problems. Meanwhile, the Ukrainians showed themselves to be far more resilient, adaptable, and willing to fight than the Biden administration had understood. At that point, the U.S. could have capitalized immensely on the Ukrainians’ spirited resistance and on Russian weakness.
I struggle to think of another time when unexpected events offered a U.S. president more favorable conditions to remake the geopolitical landscape. For years, American strategists have discussed reorienting U.S. military forces away from Europe, where they serve primarily to guard democratic nations against Moscow’s military aggression, and toward the Indo-Pacific region in order to deter a fast-growing China. If the U.S. had helped Ukraine win in 2022—which is to say, liberate its own internationally recognized territory—and then join NATO, it would also have protected the security of countries to Ukraine’s west. The presence of a militarily powerful Ukraine in NATO would have moved the balance of forces within Europe decisively in favor of democratic nations and restored global confidence i
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It's neither.
There's a great chance that Trump gets this issue cleared up from behind the scenes before he's even inaugurated.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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Quote:This is not an abstract "issue". Trump's envoy to Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, wants Ukraine to surrender. Surrender means Ukrainians die, become Russian slaves/prisoners, or flee and Trumptards don't care which option Ukrainians choose, which pretty much explains why Trumptards don't prosper in America. Trumptards don't care enough to get off their lazy, stupid, cowardly asses and do something braver with life than vote once every four years for a conman who tells them they are smart, hardworking, and admirable people being oppressed by lesser Americans who cheated the Trumptards out of the best in life.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's neither.
There's a great chance that Trump gets this issue cleared up from behind the scenes before he's even inaugurated.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:This is not an abstract "issue". Trump's envoy to Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, wants Ukraine to surrender. Surrender means Ukrainians die, become Russian slaves/prisoners, or flee and Trumptards don't care which option Ukrainians choose, which pretty much explains why Trumptards don't prosper in America. Trumptards don't care enough to get off their lazy, stupid, cowardly asses and do something braver with life than vote once every four years for a conman who tells them they are smart, hardworking, and admirable people being oppressed by lesser Americans who cheated the Trumptards out of the best in life.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's neither.
There's a great chance that Trump gets this issue cleared up from behind the scenes before he's even inaugurated.
Ukranians have been dying for American politicians and Raytheon.
Can't be any worse than what your team has been doing to them. Anything is an improvement.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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