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Elections; 2024

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Saturday, November 30, 2024 3:52 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Anybody else starting to get the feeling that Trump has done more Presidential tasks in the last 24 days than Joe Biden* and his entire administration did in nearly 4 years?

He is also your current President.

Check your %SpO2 and blood glucose levels. You are hallucinating.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Nah. I just get my news outside of MSNBC, Vox, pedophile Vaush and Salon.

I wonder what Mother Goose has to say? Oh. Right. They went out of business years ago.


I wonder how you are going to possibly think for yourself anymore after all your "news" outlets shutter their doors.

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Saturday, November 30, 2024 4:11 AM

Enough time has passed since I last tracked this, even if there's still not enough new votes counted to really justify it.

I shouldn't be surprised that the last few hundred thousand cheat votes they're pulling off of pallets in the blue states are breaking significantly harder for Harris than for Trump compared to the votes counted nationwide up through November 22nd.


POPULAR VOTE:

76,917,038 for Trump (50.0%) / 74,441,439 votes for Harris (48.4%).

Total votes counted: 151,358,477

Trump's lead: 2,475,599



COMPARED TO THE 2020 ELECTION:

The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*

The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.


The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 4,147,808 now.

Trump now has 2,693,669 more votes than he did in 2020.

Harris now has 6,841,477 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.


Trump is less than 83,000 votes away from hitting 77 Million.


States with votes left to count (States below 99% according to Google's map)
Mississippi: 5% left
New York: 3% left
Oregon: 3% left


Google says that California is 99%. I don't know if I mentioned it a day or two ago when I noticed it.

I guess now is as good a time as any to run a little experiment....

9,249,261 votes for Harris

6,050,902 votes for Trump

I don't imagine they're still paying overtime on weekends to count this late. But we'll see if those numbers are the same late on Monday or if they're still increasing.

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Saturday, November 30, 2024 4:25 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Google says that California is 99%. I don't know if I mentioned it a day or two ago when I noticed it.

I guess now is as good a time as any to run a little experiment....

9,249,261 votes for Harris

6,050,902 votes for Trump

I don't imagine they're still paying overtime on weekends to count this late. But we'll see if those numbers are the same late on Monday or if they're still increasing.




So get this... Wanna know what the final numbers for the 2020 General Election were in California?

11,110,250 for Biden*

6,006,429 for Trump.



So that means that with most of the counting in California done, 1,860,989 less people voted for Harris than Biden*.

But look at those Trump numbers...

2024: 6,006,429
2020: 6,050,902

Statistically speaking, and relative to all of the wild variables that have popped up in these 4 short years, those numbers are identical.

Right now, Trump has 44,473 less votes than he had 4 years ago.


In other words, the amount of votes less that Harris got in 2024 compared to 2020 is 42 TIMES as many as the votes that Trump lost.

And the counting may not be done...

If that number were to shrink by half at the end of next week, and we gave Harris 4 times as many votes as Trump got(25k for Trump, 100k for Harris), Trump would be down by 22,000 votes and Harris would be down 1,761,000. Harris's loss of votes in California would then be 80 TIMES as many as Trump's.

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Saturday, November 30, 2024 11:59 PM

Looks like Joe Biden* is going to leave the white house with his lowest approval rating of 4 years.

Meanwhile, Trump's current approval rating is higher than it's been in 8 years.

Tick Tock



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Sunday, December 1, 2024 5:56 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Looks like Joe Biden* is going to leave the white house with his lowest approval rating of 4 years.

Meanwhile, Trump's current approval rating is higher than it's been in 8 years.

Tick Tock

6ix, you Trumptards are so full of shit that it is coming out of your mouths and falling onto your keyboards. I swear that is the reason you dwell in the bottom 50% of American Society, where the angry poor white trash live and tell each other that they are superior beings worshiping Trump.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, December 1, 2024 5:57 PM

The Kash Patel Principle

Trump’s choice for FBI director speaks volumes about his real second-term agenda

By Tom Nichols | November 30, 2024, 9:55 PM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/11/kash-patel-princi
ple/680838
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Trump has been releasing names of his nominees for the Cabinet and other senior posts in waves. In a Saturday night post on his social-media site, Truth Social, he announced that he is nominating Kash Patel, a former federal prosecutor, to serve as the director of the FBI. A Patel nomination to some position in the law enforcement or intelligence spheres has always been lurking out there as a possibility, and Trump may have held off announcing it until he felt he had drawn out enough outrage (and exhaustion) with his other nominations.

Patel’s nomination is shocking in many ways, not least because the FBI already has a director, Christopher Wray, who Trump appointed to a 10-year term only seven years ago and who he would have to fire almost immediately to make way for Patel.

For Trump, naming Patel to the post serves several purposes. First, Trump is taking his razor-thin election win as a mandate to rule as he pleases, and Patel is the perfect nominee to prove that he doesn’t care what anyone else thinks. Even knowing what they know, Americans chose to return him to office, and he has taken their decision as a license to do whatever he wants—including giving immense power to someone like Kash Patel.

Second, Trump wants to show that the objections of senior elected Republicans are of no consequence to him, and that he can politically flatten them at will. Some of his nominations seem like a trollish flex, a way to display his power by naming people to posts and daring others to stop him. Trump has always thought of the GOP as his fiefdom and GOP leaders as his vassals—and if the Senate folds on Patel and others, he may be proven right on both counts.

This approach backfired when Matt Gaetz’s nomination for attorney general flamed out quickly in the face of likely defeat in the Senate, but Trump seems confident he can get most of his other picks across the finish line, even nominees who would have stood little chance of confirmation in previous administrations. And Trump always keeps pushing limits: In place of Gaetz, he sent forward the more competent but equally committed MAGA loyalist Pam Bondi, who has aroused far less opposition.

Trump has made clear how much he hates the FBI, and he has convinced his MAGA base that it’s a nest of political corruption. In a stunning reversal of political polarity, a significant part of the law-and-order GOP now regards the men and women of federal law enforcement with contempt and paranoia. If Trump’s goal is to break the FBI and undermine its missions, Kash Patel is the perfect nominee. Some senior officials would likely resign rather than serve under Patel, which would probably suit Trump just fine.

Of course, this means the FBI would struggle to do the things it’s supposed to be doing, including fighting crime and conducting counter-intelligence work against America’s enemies. But it would become an excellent instrument of revenge against anyone Trump or Patel identifies as an internal enemy—which, in Trump’s world, is anyone who criticizes Donald Trump.

The Russians speak of the “power ministries,” the departments that have significant legal and coercive capacity. In the United States, those include the Justice Department, the Defense Department, the FBI, and the intelligence community. Trump has now named sycophants to lead each of these institutions, a move that eliminates important obstacles to his frequently expressed desires to use the armed forces, federal law-enforcement agents, intelligence professionals, and government lawyers as he chooses, unbounded by the law or the Constitution.

If you want to assemble the infrastructure of an authoritarian government, this is how you do it.

The early-20th-century Peruvian strongman Óscar R. Benavides once stated a simple principle that Trump now appears to b

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Sunday, December 1, 2024 5:58 PM

Syria: Jihadis re-enter Aleppo in apparent collapse of Assad regime defenses

https://jihadwatch.org/2024/11/syria-jihadis-re-enter-aleppo-in-appare
nt-collapse-of-assad-regime-defenses

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Sunday, December 1, 2024 9:11 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Looks like Joe Biden* is going to leave the white house with his lowest approval rating of 4 years.

Meanwhile, Trump's current approval rating is higher than it's been in 8 years.

Tick Tock

6ix, you Trumptards are so full of shit that it is coming out of your mouths and falling onto your keyboards. I swear that is the reason you dwell in the bottom 50% of American Society, where the angry poor white trash live and tell each other that they are superior beings worshiping Trump.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



November 2024 National Poll: Trump Favorability Jumps Post-Election; 2028 Election Kicks Off with Harris and Vance Leading Primaries

https://emersoncollegepolling.com/november-2024-national-poll-trump-fa
vorability-jumps-post-election-2028-election-kicks-off-with-harris-and-vance-leading-primaries
/


Also...

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/favorability/joe-biden

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump


I know it's rough dude. Facts always hurt your feelings.

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Sunday, December 1, 2024 11:15 PM

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I know it's rough dude. Facts always hurt your feelings.

Nothing hurts my feelings because I'm unlike a Trumptard. As for Trumptards, a word, a look, can enrage them for weeks while an actual setback, even a small one, can sink them into decades of alcoholism. They are fragile. They need a leader such as Trump to feel strong.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, December 1, 2024 11:16 PM

A Constitutional Crisis Greater Than Watergate

Trump’s nomination of Kash Patel threatens to turn the FBI into an instrument of personal presidential power.

By David Frum | 10:17 a.m. ET on December 1, 2024

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/12/trumps-fbi-kash-p
atel/680840
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For more than four decades before Donald Trump assumed the presidency, the FBI director was a position above politics. A new president might choose a political ally as attorney general, but the FBI director was different. An FBI director appointed by Richard Nixon also served under Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. Carter’s choice remained on the job deep into Reagan’s second term, when Reagan moved him to head the CIA. Reagan’s FBI appointee served through the George H. W. Bush presidency and into the Bill Clinton administration. Clinton fired the inherited official—the first time a president ever fired an FBI director—only because the outgoing Bush administration had left behind a Department of Justice report accusing the director of ethical lapses. (Clinton tried to coax the tainted director into resigning of his own volition. Only after the coaxing failed did Clinton act.)

And so it continued into the 21st century. Except in a single case of serious scandal, Senate-confirmed FBI directors stayed in their post until they quit or until their 10-year term expired. Never, never, never was a Senate-confirmed FBI director fired so that the president could replace him with a loyalist. Republicans and Democrats alike agreed that there must be no return to the days when J. Edgar Hoover did special favors for presidents who perpetuated his power.

Even Donald Trump grudgingly submitted to this rule during his first term, as the Mueller Report later detailed. Trump wanted to fire FBI Director James Comey to shut down the investigation of Trump’s ties to Russia. Trump’s advisers convinced Trump that admitting his true motive would spark an enormous scandal. Instead, the new administration inveigled the deputy attorney general to write a letter offering a more neutral-seeming explanation: that Comey had mishandled the bureau’s investigation of Hillary Clinton. That deceptive rationalization—the Mueller Report authoritatively disproved the cover story—did not calm the uproar over Trump’s scheme to install a henchman as FBI director. At the time, even Trump supporters still professed that the FBI director must be more than a presidential yes-man. Things were quieted only when Trump chose a politically independent candidate to replace Comey: Christopher Wray, who holds the job to this day, retained through all four years of the Biden administration.

Yesterday, Trump announced on Truth Social that he intended to fire Wray to replace him with Kash Patel, a person notorious for his cringing deference to Trump’s wishes. How bad a choice is Patel? My colleague Elaina Plott Calabro reported that when President Trump “entertained naming Patel deputy director of the FBI, Attorney General Bill Barr confronted the White House chief of staff and said, ‘Over my dead body.’”

But before getting to Patel’s demerits, we should stay for a minute longer on the ominous danger of Trump’s wish to fire Wray.

FBI directors wield awesome powers over the liberties of Americans. The unwritten rule governing their appointment—no dismissal except for compelling cause—bulwarked American law and freedom for half a century. Even first-term Trump dared not openly defy it. But second-term Trump is opening with a bid to junk it altogether. Much of the reporting on Trump’s announcement reveals a society already bending to Trump’s will: Something that was regarded as outrageously unacceptable in 2017—treating an FBI director as just another Trump aide—has been semi-normalized even before President-Elect Trump takes office.

The firing of Wray is the real outrage. The obnoxious nomination of Patel slathers frosting and sprinkles on the outrage.

Maybe the Patel nomination will fail, as Trump’s attempt to install Matt Gaetz as attorney gener

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