Mr. Biden
POSTED BY: Brenda
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 06:33
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
My mistake.
Well... if he said something that pleased you, I'm glad he said it.
And for him to say it now, that means that I think maybe it actually meant something to him, personally. There was zero political motivation for him to say it after the election.
And he's right. Saying sorry for stuff that you didn't do a very easy thing to do and any one of them should have already done it a long time ago.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
It did please me and it pleased the Elders who were there to hear. Many others along with myself have been wanting and waiting for an acknowledgement of what happened.
I think it did as he got angry on our behalf as he spoke. He was given a number of 1,000 children that didn't make it home from those places and he said that number is too low. I agree with that as there were double the number of those places in the States than were in Canada.
Yes, it should have come sooner. But I am grateful that Mr. Biden did it.
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I think if you told 1,000 random people the story of those schools 999 of them are going to be aghast about it. And 990 of them are going to tell you that it was the first time they ever heard about this because somebody did a hell of a job not talking about it for a long time.
We can't look at history through the lens of 2024 and hold it to those standards. And even if it doesn't feel like it should be, 50 years ago is still history even if we were alive when it was happening. Something like this could never happen today with the internet.
I think what I'm trying to get around to saying is that of course I would never have been down with any of this happening, and most Americans wouldn't. Not to Natives or anybody.
I just hope you're not viewing this issue from a perspective where you think your average American in 2024 thinks that this was in any way acceptable. I'm pretty sure most folk 50 years ago wouldn't have approved of it back then either had they known it was happening in the first place.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President. 
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I think if you told 1,000 random people the story of those schools 999 of them are going to be aghast about it. And 990 of them are going to tell you that it was the first time they ever heard about this because somebody did a hell of a job not talking about it for a long time.
We can't look at history through the lens of 2024 and hold it to those standards. And even if it doesn't feel like it should be, 50 years ago is still history even if we were alive when it was happening. Something like this could never happen today with the internet.
I think what I'm trying to get around to saying is that of course I would never have been down with any of this happening, and most Americans wouldn't. Not to Natives or anybody.
I just hope you're not viewing this issue from a perspective where you think your average American in 2024 thinks that this was in any way acceptable. I'm pretty sure most folk 50 years ago wouldn't have approved of it back then either had they known it was happening in the first place.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
You are probably right and I just hope that any hearing the stories don't go into denial as that has happened up here.
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Biden visits Native Country and apologizes for the 'sin' of a 150-year-old boarding school policy
https://accesswdun.com/article/2024/10/1268873
Language Death: How do languages die?
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Biden visits Native Country and apologizes for the 'sin' of a 150-year-old boarding school policy
https://accesswdun.com/article/2024/10/1268873
Language Death: How do languages die?
When there aren't enough speakers left and that usually means Elders. When they go and if the language hasn't been passed down then it dies. Or if there is no written version. To my knowledge was no written languages in either Canada or the US.
The languages of a lot of Nations on both sides of the border are being taught to the young, so they won't die. Inuk which is the mother tongue of the Inuit of the North West Territories, Yukon and Nunavut is being recorded and programs are being made now to teach the young of that Nation to speak their language and write it.
Cree is taught here in Canada along with coastal languages in BC. Algonquin is a language from the eastern part of Canada and spoken by the Iroquois and other members of that Confederacy known as the 6 Nations. It is a protected language. The Navajo have their own schools where they teach their language, history and culture.
My own the Shoshoni have a website where I could go and learn my great grandmother's language.
This is how languages of First Nations on both sides of the Canadian-US border DON'T DIE.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I am going to post what happened about 3 weeks or so before your Presidential election and all I ask is no flaming.
Mr. Biden was down in Navajo country on a reserve. There were Elders waiting for him from many Nations along with Elders and leaders of that community.
He got on the podium in front of the microphone and gave a heartfelt apology to all Nations for the injury done to them by the residential school system down there. For taking their children and breaking those important bonds. Loss of languages and loss of culture.
This is something I never thought I would ever hear from one of your Presidents.
T
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Quote:This OP for this thread was weeks after it happened.
Originally posted by Brenda:
I am going to post what happened about 3 weeks or so before your Presidential election and all I ask is no flaming.
Mr. Biden was down in Navajo country on a reserve. There were Elders waiting for him from many Nations along with Elders and leaders of that community.
He got on the podium in front of the microphone and gave a heartfelt apology to all Nations for the injury done to them by the residential school system down there. For taking their children and breaking those important bonds. Loss of languages and loss of culture.
This is something I never thought I would ever hear from one of your Presidents.
The news I listen to mentioned it, and at that time I had planned to post about it in another thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62612
I couldn't find it then, and later I couldn't find this one, threads get buried around here.
A good thing he acknowledged the situation.
Not sure why he didn't declare a Federal Day of recognition. Canada did.
Seems about 2% of US population, and about 5% of Canadian population.
We discussed the subject in the FBI thread, as well:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=2&tid=63700&mid=11
06452#1106452
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:This OP for this thread was weeks after it happened.
Originally posted by Brenda:
I am going to post what happened about 3 weeks or so before your Presidential election and all I ask is no flaming.
Mr. Biden was down in Navajo country on a reserve. There were Elders waiting for him from many Nations along with Elders and leaders of that community.
He got on the podium in front of the microphone and gave a heartfelt apology to all Nations for the injury done to them by the residential school system down there. For taking their children and breaking those important bonds. Loss of languages and loss of culture.
This is something I never thought I would ever hear from one of your Presidents.
The news I listen to mentioned it, and at that time I had planned to post about it in another thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62612
I couldn't find it then, and later I couldn't find this one, threads get buried around here.
A good thing he acknowledged the situation.
Not sure why he didn't declare a Federal Day of recognition. Canada did.
Seems about 2% of US population, and about 5% of Canadian population.
We discussed the subject in the FBI thread, as well:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=2&tid=63700&mid=11
06452#1106452
Most like because down there the residential schools are barely acknowledged. That was why I was so pleased when he did.
Up here in Canada at least we learn about the system and some of us have known people who went through the system. I know I do.
I know Canada did and Canada apologized years before the States did.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I am going to post what happened about 3 weeks or so before your Presidential election and all I ask is no flaming.
Mr. Biden was down in Navajo country on a reserve. There were Elders waiting for him from many Nations along with Elders and leaders of that community.
He got on the podium in front of the microphone and gave a heartfelt apology to all Nations for the injury done to them by the residential school system down there. For taking their children and breaking those important bonds. Loss of languages and loss of culture.
This is something I never thought I would ever hear from one of your Presidents.
Trump threatens to block Washington Commanders stadium deal unless team changes back to former name
President Trump on Sunday pushed the Washington Commanders NFL team to return to its previous name, which was scrapped five years ago because it included a word that many view as a slur against Native Americans.
The president also threatened to block a complicated deal for the Commanders to return to a stadium in Washington, D.C., unless they return to the name "Washington Redskins."
And now you've got Trump who Jack your buddy, not only backs completely, but is a white racist extremist himself. My, your tribe must be so proud.
T
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You are a terrible human being.
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