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Kamala Harris for President

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THG
Tuesday, October 29, 2024 4:00 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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THUGR; Hey 2, it’s funny how Jack and Signym both never address the point in anyone’s post. They always respond with what if’s, whataboutisms and sarcasm.

Hey, do you think they even realize when Trump throws out one of his racist tropes, what the press calls a dog whistle, that they're the dog?
How funny is that shit?


SIGNY: And your post is what, again?

I have rarely seen you post anything worth reading/ listening to, much less responding to.

THUGR: Exactly; that's because I draw from global mainstream media. It repudiates everything you post and shows you to be a lying idiot. So of course, what I post would be a turn off to you.

And to your first point. My post is a synopsis of how you respond to facts, you don't. As I said, you rely on what if's, whataboutism and sarcasm.



It doesn't "repudiate".
It accuses without evidence.
It rumor-mongers (hearsay).
It defames.
It insinuates.
IT LIES.






And again you show I am right when you post all your paranoid reasons for why you only believe selective far right conspiracies' and propaganda. You're a nut.

And I'd add that your post, even what I cut out because it is just you rambling, is full of if's, whataboutism and sarcasm directed at___fill in the blank.

T

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THG
Tuesday, October 29, 2024 4:15 AM

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Originally posted by THG:


Thank you for proving my point comrade. First, you hate America because you're a Russian troll. How's that you ask? All your posts suggest America is decadent and in decline.

Second, it doesn't matter what evidence is out there that disputes what you post, you ignore it. Why, because you are a Russian troll, and you hate America.

I could go on, but why? Your posts expose who you are better than I ever could comrade. Hell, you support Putin who is wanted for crimes against children. The warrant issued by the International Criminal Court says arrest on sight.

And Trump, convicted of sexual assault and 34 other felonies, is indicted and awaiting trial on dozens more. Then there is his stealing from charities and other assorted frauds he perpetrated.

Are you kidding me? You support these two over someone who has worked in law and order all her life. Is currently our vice president, who in her life time has never been accused of a crime. You claim and want us to believe you have a higher moral base than those you support, than Trump and Putin, bullshit. You are the scum you hang out with comrade.

T






Comrade signym and Jack. Hate is your platform. You have nothing to hide behind. As I've said. You are the scum you hang out with
T


Trump's offensive MSG rally: "This is who he is"





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Tuesday, October 29, 2024 4:48 AM

I guarantee you 100% that if you took away Ted's internet connection and cell phone he would not be able to tell you what repudiate means.



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He will also be your next President.

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Tuesday, October 29, 2024 4:58 AM



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THUGR; Hey 2, it’s funny how Jack and Signym both never address the point in anyone’s post. They always respond with what if’s, whataboutisms and sarcasm.

Hey, do you think they even realize when Trump throws out one of his racist tropes, what the press calls a dog whistle, that they're the dog?
How funny is that shit?

SIGNY: And your post is what, again?
I have rarely seen you post anything worth reading/ listening to, much less responding to.

THUGR: Exactly; that's because I draw from global mainstream media. It repudiates everything you post and shows you to be a lying idiot. So of course, what I post would be a turn off to you.

And to your first point. My post is a synopsis of how you respond to facts, you don't. As I said, you rely on what if's, whataboutism and sarcasm.

SIGNY: It doesn't "repudiate".
It accuses without evidence.
It rumor-mongers (hearsay).
It defames.
It insinuates.
IT LIES.

THUGR: And again you show I am right when you post all your paranoid reasons for why you only believe selective far right conspiracies' and propaganda.



So, when 50+ intelligence officers stood shoulder to shoulder and signed a letter saying that the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't genuine, that it was "Russian disinfo", that was ... what? The truth?

And when the media went on and on about "kompromat" that was .... real?

And when the DNC and the media shined us on for four years that Biden was compos mentis, and only abandoned the story when it become obvious on national TV that he wasn't, that was ... what? Honesty in action?

YES, OR NO?

Now here's another fact you haven't clued into: I DON'T BELIEVE ALT RIGHT CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

I don't "believe" ANYTHING unless there is good evidence to.

Follow the evidence, dood. Learn to separate opinion and belief from reality. Outside of your cozy bubble of warm bullshit, there's a real world out there.

If you can manage, let's talk FACTS. Not name calling. Not bullshit. Facts. IN YOUR OWN WORDS.

If not, you're not worth listening to.




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Tuesday, October 29, 2024 7:56 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Ah. More Nazi rhetoric from the idiots. Right on cue, just as I'd predicted.

Before WWII, the British were calling Nazis evil and the Nazis' response was "How dare you besmirch our superior civilization. Germans are highly educated and moral people living at a level that you shall never reach without strenuous efforts that are most likely to fail." Albert Einstein, who knew the Nazis well from living with them and listening to their words, was the most peaceful man postwar, but he could calculate the consequences when he wrote a letter to FDR about nuking the Nazis. Tacitly, Einstein advised burning the evil bastards alive, and their children, watching them die screaming. Einstein was smart enough to know that there was no point in talking to Nazis in a vain hope of convincing them to behave better. Better them dead than an endless stream of words from Nazis explaining that they are good people and those who kill Nazis are evil.

Einstein–Szilard letter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%E2%80%93Szilard_letter#Delivery

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, October 29, 2024 8:05 AM

Allan Lichtman stands by call that Harris will win 2024 election. Lichtman has been told in many elections that polls say he is wrong, but he didn't change the predictions.
Here's why:



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, October 29, 2024 9:24 AM

Whatever, Commie.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

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Tuesday, October 29, 2024 9:30 AM

I already addressed on October 25th in the Election thread why Allan Lichtman should not and will not reverse his bad pick now.

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At least he's got the integrity to go down with his ship now though. It would only further devalue his Keys system if he were to change his tune this late in the race. And really... who could blame Alan? You guys were so busy huffing Harris' asshole for one more hit of Joy and buying into your media circus despite my many warnings against you doing so.


It sucks to have to go down with the ship like that, but he learned a lesson never to make a prediction that early again. Especially not if the race is the fuckin' clownshow we've been subjected to by Democrats in 2024.

Hopefully Lichtman missed this NBC article, or it might keep him up tonight...

In key swing states, the lines at food banks are growing longer

From rural Michigan to midsize towns in Pennsylvania and affluent suburbs in Wisconsin, food banks are reporting record levels of need that has been steadily increasing over the past several years.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/key-swing-states-lines-
food-banks-are-growing-longer-rcna175377





Or this one from The Hill...

Could we see a Trump November Surprise?

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4951455-trump-battleground-state-
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If Trump closes with another battleground state surge, 2024 will be a blowout.

Improbable? As of Oct. 20, Trump already held leads in all seven battleground states. And in 2020 and 2016, he closed with substantial surges in these seven states. If he only partially replicates his prior performances, it won’t matter what happens elsewhere.

Seven battleground states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) will decide 2024’s presidential outcome — just like they did in 2020 and 2016.

In 2016, Trump won six of them and came quite close in the seventh; in 2020, Biden won six of them. In the last two elections, the margins of victory were relatively small; the conventional assumption is that the margins will again be very small.

However, while the seven states’ pivotal aspect remains clear, current and past trends raise the possibility that their margins may not be so close this time. Those coinciding trends are Trump’s current polling leads and his battleground state closing surges in the last two elections.

According to Real Clear Politics’ Oct. 20 averages of battleground state polling, Trump led in each of the seven states by margins ranging from 0.2 percentage points in Wisconsin to 1.8 percentage points in Georgia. As small as those margins are, Trump was substantially ahead of where he was on the same date in 2020 and 2016. In both previous elections, he trailed in each of the battleground states, in some cases by several points.

And in each of the last two elections, Trump surged in those states at the end. Both times, his popular vote percentages in these states made substantial jumps from where his polling had been on Oct. 20.

Over the last two presidential elections, the record for Trump’s battleground state surge is 14 for 14. In 2020 his overall average improvement was 3.2 percentage points. If that were applied to today’s polling, Trump’s victory margin across all seven states would range from 2.7 percentage points in Georgia to 5.9 percentage points in Wisconsin. He would win them all comfortably.

In 2016, Trump’s surge in the seven battlegrounds was 7.2 percentage points. If that were applied to this year’s polling numbers, he would win all seven states. but by margins wide enough to shock everyone.

The counterargument is that Trump has already peaked — that his surge is already baked into the numbers. But if we assume that Trump has already hit his ceiling of support, that implies that Harris has hit her floor. There are many reasons to believe she has not.

One is Harris’ fall in the national polls. As of Oct. 24, she was trailing in three of the last four national polls, and her lea

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Tuesday, October 29, 2024 3:53 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Whatever, Commie.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Why did Trump have a rally in Madison Square Garden? Because he is repeating well-known history:

Trump’s Madison Square Garden Rally Was a Pageant of Lowbrow Fascism, and It Wasn’t Even Funny

The Garden hosted a Nazi rally in 1939. Let’s remember that the lesser of two evils is still evil.

By Charles P. Pierce | Oct 28, 2024 11:53 AM EDT

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a62735267/trump-msg-ral
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NEW YORK—And at the end of the day, all that was proven was that these people can’t even be fascists with any kind of dignity. In February 1939, with World War II having already begun at the Marco Polo Bridge two years earlier (although nobody knew it at the time) and seven months before the Wehrmacht rolled into Poland, there was a famous rally in the old Madison Square Garden held in concert with the German-American Bund and the isolationist America First crowd. The latter was insignificant. It was a Nazi rally.

And what a spectacle it was. There was a thirty-foot high portrait of the birthday boy, George Washington, framed by swastikas. (“The first American fascist,” declared Bund leader Fritz Kuhn). There were drum and bugle corps. There was thunder and lightning from the podium. There were twenty-two thousand people giving the Nazi salute on cue. And as a backhanded tribute, outside the Garden, one hundred thousand counter-protesters gathered ready to throw hands against the Nazis. One of them, a plumber named Isadore Greenbaum, actually made it to the stage, interrupting Kuhn’s speech and being beaten within an inch of his life by the OD, Kuhn’s equivalent of Hitler’s SS. Greenbaum survived his mauling but got arrested for disorderly conduct. There was a sense of the epic, both inside and outside the Garden. You could feel the world turning toward darkness.

On Sunday, at the current Madison Square Garden, there was Hulk Hogan, in a pink feather boa.

There was Dr. Phil, droning on and on about how the former president* was not a bully. There was Rudy Giuliani, half out of his mind, shouting about how the Democratic ticket was “in with the terrorists,” before perhaps going backstage to ask Robert Kennedy Jr. if he could crash on his couch for a few days. There was Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House of Representatives, talking about the Republican respect for the rule of law while, later, the candidate himself talked about how he and Johnson “had a little secret” that he would tell us about after the election. This could be pure bluff, or it could be the opening round in a Republican attempt to ratf*ck the certification process. In either case, the former president* put Johnson on the hook for good.

In 1939, there was Fritz Kuhn, inveighing against President “Rosenfelt” and Governor Thomas “Jewey,” to thunderous applause. In 2024, there was a podcast comedian named Tony Hinchcliffe, telling the audience that there was an island of garbage floating in the ocean and it was called “Puerto Rico,” to gales of laughter, and gaining the instant infamy that is the highest form of street cred in the MAGA movement. In 1939, at the conclusion of Kuhn’s speech, twenty thousand people chanted, “Free America!” In 2024, nineteen thousand people cheered along as the soulless husk that once was Tucker Carlson told them that Kamala Harris was going to be “the first Samoan-Malaysian, low-IQ former California prosecutor ever to be elected president.”

I do not minimize the danger inherent in next Tuesday’s election. I lived through one Trump administration*. I would prefer not to have to live through the live-action adventure Trump Unchained. But Lord above, these people are not only reckless, they are comical lightweights, right up to their Dear Leader. They are burlesque authoritarians. The 1939 rally was a Wagnerian opera in a world on the brink of war. This was a grandiose version of a drive-time

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Tuesday, October 29, 2024 6:53 PM

Couldnt find any swastikas, Charles? No Nazi salutes? (Like, yanno, in Ukraine?) No railing against Jew bankers? No crazed white supremacists in the crowd?

So instead you write endlessly, it seems, about Nazis in 1939, hoping to paint a lurid "guilt by association" picture?
And you latch onto one phrase, on which to spin a dark and formless paranoia?


Wow. So obvious. Such bad propaganda. I hope nobody paid for that.



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