Kamala Harris for President
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Well... That was pretty boring. No way it was going to live up to the Biden* debate though.
My guess is that it doesn't move the needle at all. The media, particularly those of whatever intersectional community they're going to claim to speak for will have some good feel good soundbytes to talk about, but nothing of substance was ever said.
Trump, meanwhile, didn't do much to speak to anybody who wasn't already going to vote for him. He's got some good moments in there too. Both sides of the media are going to have some good things to show their viewers.
Trump repeated himself too much though, again... on points he shouldn't have been focusing on in the first place with the limited amount of time. Especially when nobody knows if there will be another debate before the election. Harris, outside of her heavily scripted and rehearsed moments sounded very unsure of herself, appeared to need a drink of water and stuttered a few times.
I think anybody objectively watching and judging the performances would say that this was more or less a wash without any clear winner, although both sides are going to find ways to claim that their guy was the winner.
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Trump could have done a LOT better.
But Harris kept needling him and lying about him like a picador, and he responded lije an angry bull. At one point he argued about the size of his rallies for chrissakes! It might have as well have been about the size of his penis: not what Americans care about right now.
He attacked Harris on a number of points: Abortion after nine months. (Notice she didn't deny it). Flip flopping on policies. The border disaster. Harris didn't explain or defend. She just slid past it, and gave the impression that none of his punches landed.
When she, or the moderators smeared him with a lie, he could have made his point a LOT clearer. Yes, he DID say "peacefully and patriotically". No, HE is not the one being divisive. Yes, his cases were never heard bc of "lack of standing". Yes, we need cleaner elections.
But Trump spent far too much time arguing about the past when he should have pointed solutions. He conjectured too much: "This wouldn't have happened if I had been President". In reality, we don't know, and I'm not about to credit him with what he "could have done". He should have been talking about American concerns and his plans for our future.
The only time I felt that he was really engaged in what the Presidency means for him and for America was when he was passionately describing how world leaders laugh at Biden, and yanno, I have to agree. We need a President who is respected as a leader, and Biden was not it.
Make America Great Again. Stay focused on that, Mr Trump, you'll do a lot better.
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Kamala Harris introducing herself to Trump with an awkward handshake was the funny moment of the night.
If I were Trump I would have said "I have no idea who you are". 
One thing that the media won't focus on is what the two candidates were doing when their mics were turned off.
Kamala spent the entire time her mic was off staring directly at Trump and giving him the stink eye while he just looked straight ahead her half of the 2 hours and pretended as though she didn't even exist. I don't think Trump ever once looked at her except for the moments he was addressing her directly. That's exactly how she should be treated in any serious conversation, so at least he did the right thing there.
You know the left-wing media is going to spin the hell out of this whole thing tomorrow, and Ted and Second are going to post 2 dozen articles tomorrow between them.
Let's see if it moves the needle at all in the polling. My guess is that it didn't either way.
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Quote:Did you know that Trump actually has a trademark on the slogan, Signym?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump could have done a LOT better.
Make America Great Again. Stay focused on that, Mr Trump, you'll do a lot better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_America_Great_Again#Use_by_Donald_T
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In December 2011, following speculation that he would challenge sitting president Barack Obama in the 2012 United States presidential election, Trump released a statement in which he said he was unwilling to rule out running as a presidential candidate in the future, explaining "I must leave all of my options open because, above all else, we must make America great again."[16] Also in December 2011, he published a book using as a subtitle the similar phrase "Making America #1 Again" – which in a 2015 reissue was changed to "Make America Great Again!"[17]
On January 1, 2012, a group of Trump supporters filed paperwork with the Texas Secretary of State's office to create the "Make America Great Again Party", which would have allowed Trump to be that party's nominee if he had decided to become a third-party candidate in the presidential election.[18]
Trump began using the slogan formally on November 7, 2012, the day after Barack Obama won his re-election against Mitt Romney. Trump used the slogan in an August 2013 interview with Jonathan Karl.[19] By his own account, he first considered "We Will Make America Great", but did not feel like it had the right "ring" to it. "Make America Great" was his next slogan idea, but upon further reflection, he felt that it was a slight to America because it implied that America was never great. He eventually selected the phrase "Make America Great Again", later claiming that he was unaware of Reagan's use in 1980 until 2015, but noted that "he didn't trademark it."[20] On November 12, he signed an application with the United States Patent and Trademark Office requesting exclusive rights to use the slogan for political purposes. It was registered as a service mark on July 14, 2015, after Trump formally began his 2016 presidential campaign and demonstrated that he was using the slogan for the purpose stated on the application.[21][20][22]
History of Make America Great Again slogan
https://www.google.com/search?q=history+of+make+america+great+again+sl
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The Nazis had Make Germany Great Again so why not use the slogan in America?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:Fox News said Trump was full of shit and would lose. Trump gave his recap of the debate:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You know the left-wing media is going to spin the hell out of this whole thing tomorrow, and Ted and Second are going to post 2 dozen articles tomorrow between them.
Former President Trump sits down with ‘Hannity’ host Sean Hannity to recap the ABC News Presidential Debate
Donald Trump: This debate was 'stacked'
Tuning into Fox News following Tuesday’s presidential debate, it was hard to describe the mood. Somber comes to mind—a little like you might find at a funeral, perhaps for a beloved cat consumed by a political boogeyman.
Donald Trump had just spent almost all of his 90-minute debate with Kamala Harris ranting into his microphone in a 180-degree contrast from his last appearance against Joe Biden. If he kept it together for the first little bit, Trump quickly fell into the traps Harris laid for him—about his crowd sizes, his reputation among military chiefs, his standing among world leaders—and the results were grim. To anyone watching who might have forgotten what the Trump years were like, it was a stark reminder.
When the ABC moderators finally wrapped things up and the lights came up on the Fox News panel, the anchors seemed just as rattled as viewers at home. You instantly knew things were bleak when host Jesse Watters tried to insist that there had been no winners. “I don’t think the American people are watching and thinking any of these people won,” Watters stammered out. He then conceded, “This was rough. This was pretty intense at times.”
Brit Hume, the network’s chief political analyst, was starker. “Make no mistake about it: Trump had a bad night,” Hume told the Fox viewers. “This was pretty much her night.” Sounding exasperated, Hume complained that Trump had been repeatedly baited by Harris, leading Trump to relitigate “so many of the old grievances that we had long thought Trump had learned were not winners politically.” Harris, meanwhile, was composed and prepared, Hume said: “She kept her cool.”
“You’re saying she had a good night?” host Bret Baier asked him.
“I’m saying she certainly did,” Hume said sternly.
On Fox News, the strategy delivered after the initial shock passed seemed to be to attack the real villains: Those pesky ABC journalists who had asked follow-up questions and made fact-checks during the debate, such as when they told the American people there was, in fact, no evidence to Trump’s frankly racist claims that the good pets of Springfield, Ohio, were being gobbled up by Haitian migrants.
Soon, a string of Fox News friendly faces was called upon. Looking beaten down, host Sean Hannity insisted the “biggest loser in the debate” was ABC, bashing the network’s journalists, David Muir and Linsey Davis, as “far-left moderators.” Speaking with the air of someone just grateful to be invited on television, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. complained about “the evident bias of the moderators who were fact checking constantly trivialities by President Trump.” Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida called the moderators “an embarrassment to journalism.” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told viewers he much preferred the moderating style of CNN’s Jake Tapper and Dana Bush, because “they asked questions” and “they got out of the way.”
Eventually, Trump himself entered the debate spin room—a rare move for him—and began an impromptu press conference of sorts, prompting Hannity to shush RFK Jr. so the viewers could listen in live. But without a mic clearly in front of Trump, the audience at home had to strain to hear him, creating an even more shambolic appearance. Instead of the former president, the Fox mics picked up the sounds of others in the room full of journalists and media figures: “Why wouldn’t you look at her?” “Why not let your performance speak for itself?” Some just audibly snickered at the scene.
When Trump did eventually find his way over to Hannity’s set for the TV equivalent o
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump could have done a LOT better.
But Harris kept needling him and lying about him like a picador, and he responded lije an angry bull. At one point he argued about the size of his rallies for chrissakes! It might have as well have been about the size of his penis: not what Americans care about right now.
He attacked Harris on a number of points: Abortion after nine months. (Notice she didn't deny it). Flip flopping on policies. The border disaster. Harris didn't explain or defend. She just slid past it, and gave the impression that none of his punches landed.
When she, or the moderators smeared him with a lie, he could have made his point a LOT clearer. Yes, he DID say "peacefully and patriotically". No, HE is not the one being divisive. Yes, his cases were never heard bc of "lack of standing". Yes, we need cleaner elections.
But Trump spent far too much time arguing about the past when he should have pointed solutions. He conjectured too much: "This wouldn't have happened if I had been President". In reality, we don't know, and I'm not about to credit him with what he "could have done". He should have been talking about American concerns and his plans for our future.
The only time I felt that he was really engaged in what the Presidency means for him and for America was when he was passionately describing how world leaders laugh at Biden, and yanno, I have to agree. We need a President who is respected as a leader, and Biden was not it.
Make America Great Again. Stay focused on that, Mr Trump, you'll do a lot better.
So, in retrospect, I should have expected this.
TPTB have been trying to destroy Trump since 2015, with false accusations thru the media, hyped up "investigations" based on fraudulent "evidence"; unending media, political, personal, and legal persecution of Trump and his supporters; gaslighting and censoring Americans nonstop; and last but certainly not least an assasination attempt that missed by a half inch
Trump has been in nonstop "fight" mode for years, and is operating under a huge burden of stress and quite justifiable anger. And they used that against him.
Is it fair?
No.
But seeing how far they've been willing to go to destroy Trump, destroying America in the process ...
The debate solidified my vote. I'm against everything that that cabal of corrupt politicians of both parties and permanent state functionaries have been doing in their senseless, selfish pursuit of wealth and power.
Even more than 2016, my vote this year is "against". I hope MAGA Republicans will continue pursuing their goal to make America Great Again. I disagree with half of what half of them aim for, but it's a helluvalot better than what we got in DC now.
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Quote:Signym, you are out of your tiny mind about Trump:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The debate solidified my vote. I'm against everything that that cabal of corrupt politicians of both parties and permanent state functionaries have been doing in their senseless, selfish pursuit of wealth and power.
Even more than 2016, my vote this year is "against". I hope MAGA Republicans will continue pursuing their goal to make America Great Again. I disagree with half of what half of them aim for, but it's a helluvalot better than what we got in DC now.
Trump Tells Republicans to Shut Down the Government Over Election Fraud
September 10, 2024
Former President Donald Trump demanded that “If Republicans in the House, and Senate, don’t get absolute assurances on Election Security, THEY SHOULD, IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, GO FORWARD WITH A CONTINUING RESOLUTION ON THE BUDGET.”
For days now, the former president — who maintains that the 2020 election was stolen from him — has been promoting unsourced claims of election fraud in 2024 early voting on his social media.
Earlier this week, Trump promoted unsubstantiated claims that Arizona, a key 2024 battleground state, is allowing non-citizens to remain on the state’s voter rolls. He also repeated claims that “20% of the Mail-In Ballots in Pennsylvania are fraudulent.”
“Here we go again!” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “Where is the U.S. Attorney General and FBI to INVESTIGATE? Where is the Pennsylvania Republican Party? We will WIN Pennsylvania by a lot, unless the Dems are allowed to CHEAT. THE RNC MUST ACTIVATE, NOW!!!”
Some Republicans in the House are livid that House Speaker Johnson is even entertaining a funding extension, even with the SAVE Act attached, while others feel that the image of the GOP forcing a government shutdown weeks before the November election would be a boon to Democrats.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-demands-repu
blicans-government-shutdown-voting-citizenship-1235099381/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The debate solidified my vote. I'm against everything that that cabal of corrupt politicians of both parties and permanent state functionaries have been doing in their senseless, selfish pursuit of wealth and power.
Even more than 2016, my vote this year is "against". I hope MAGA Republicans will continue pursuing their goal to make America Great Again. I disagree with half of what half of them aim for, but it's a helluvalot better than what we got in DC now.
SECOND: Signym, you are out of your tiny mind about Trump:
Trump Tells Republicans to Shut Down the Government Over Election Fraud
September 10, 2024
Former President Donald Trump demanded that “If Republicans in the House, and Senate, don’t get absolute assurances on Election Security, THEY SHOULD, IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, GO FORWARD WITH A CONTINUING RESOLUTION ON THE BUDGET.”
I agree. But apparently YOU don't think that clean, auditable elections are worth having.
Thanks for your continued support for destroying America.
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Quote:America already has clean, auditable elections. Signym, you missed the part where Trump wants a government shutdown in September to stop the steal he claims is already happening, but it is not happening, except in Trump's and Signym's loony brains.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump Tells Republicans to Shut Down the Government Over Election Fraud
September 10, 2024
Former President Donald Trump demanded that “If Republicans in the House, and Senate, don’t get absolute assurances on Election Security, THEY SHOULD, IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, GO FORWARD WITH A CONTINUING RESOLUTION ON THE BUDGET.”
I agree. But apparently YOU don't think that clean, auditable elections are worth having.
Thanks for your continued support for destroying America.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-demands-repu
blicans-government-shutdown-voting-citizenship-1235099381/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Here is one of the strangest talking points Trump made during the night.
That Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Harris’ pick for VP, “is OK” with executing babies after birth
Trump was asked why women should trust him on reproductive rights given how often he has changed his position on abortion. He framed the overturning of Roe v. Wade as a move that gave women more control, not less, because now decisions about abortion could be made at the state level. But he also tried to turn the tables by accusing Democrats of…er…wildly extreme abortion politics. Which led him to this whopper:
Quote:The falsehoods he rattled off about abortion were so bold that one of the moderators, Linsey Davis, firmly refuted one—”There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after its born”—before moving onto the next question, something that happened only a handful of times in the night.
They have abortion in the ninth month. They even have—and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor who’s doing an excellent job, but the governor before, he said the baby will be born, and we will decide what to do with the baby. In other words, we’ll execute the baby.
Her vice presidential pick—which I think was a horrible pick, by the way, for the country because he is really out of it—but her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth—it’s execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born—is OK.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/09/harris-trump-debate-immigr
ation-abortion-putin-dogs-cats-orban.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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