Maybe us Libertarians should vote for Bush?

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JASONZZZ

Friday, October 29, 2004 4:58 AM

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hmmm.. the problem is that to garner enough votes to overwhelm the votes in an entire state to get any one state's entire set of electoral votes
A third party candidate doesn't need to win an entire state to get lots of attention. We've all seen the OVERALL percentages from previous elections, and if in a future election that list reads something like this:

Democrat - 45%
Republican - 44%
Libertarian - 10%
Other - 1%

all the political pundits will take notice, mainstream journalists will do stories, there will be lots of talk about "spoiler" candidtates, and MORE PEOPLE WILL HEAR ABOUT LIBERTARIANISM AND LOOK INTO IT ON THEIR OWN. That means a few more votes for the next election. And that means more attention which means more votes, and so on.

The issue for Libertarians right now is to get attention in other ways to find voters. They're doing a pretty good job. The biggest problem any third party candidate faces is his supporters voting for one of the big two, just because "we can't win anyway, so I'll vote for the guy who's kinda' not as bad". What these people don't seem to realize is that they've just gone from a one in million chance of getting what they want to absolutely zero chance of getting what they want.

Vote your conscience!

Here's the real reason why any one of the third parties will never see anything like that (outside of flukes like the progressive and the reform party with Perot). The two major parties R & D act as huge issue vacuum cleaners. They run on an entire running lists of issues and platforms as compared to the 3rd parties which are usually serves a singular core interest. And I am not saying at all that these interests are not valued or well thought out - they usually are intensive worthwhile issues. Nor am I saying that the 3rd parties are not or can not be multi-faceted - it's just that 3rd parties are really usually formed to deal with a particular singular idea. And here's the real deal - whenever a 3rd party comes up with a real viable worthwhile issue that steals any amount of hearts and minds, one or both of the R & D parties would end up stealing it as a part of their platform. By the time it's time to hit the polls, not only do they have a worthwhile response that satisfies some centris majority of the voters who thought they might swing, but the 3rd party issues is starting to look stale, duplicate, or just sort of fringe extremist like.

How about this? What if there's electoral shedding and McCain ends up being President?
http://techcentralstation.com/101404A.html

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SGTGUMP

Friday, October 29, 2004 4:10 PM

"Maybe us Libertarians should vote for Bush?"

I don't think I could sleep at night if I did something like that. Sorry man.

Check this out - http://www.somethingawful.com

www.lp.org
www.badnarik.org
Vote Libertarian.

JASONZZZ

Friday, October 29, 2004 5:27 PM

Holy Smokes, all of these Kerry conspiracies getting spun in media...

Kerry's Cousin Stored Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle at his house:
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/32910.htm

Kerry is a big Commie and he direly helped spearhead the Vietnamese Regime (Viet Cong and North Vietnamese) in carrying out their agenda in the Paris peace talks... Apparently Hanoi Kerry is his new name...
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41142

This one is fun too.
http://www.fingertime.com/bushdressup.php

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DIEGO

Friday, October 29, 2004 5:49 PM

The two major parties R & D act as huge issue vacuum cleaners. They run on an entire running lists of issues and platforms as compared to the 3rd parties which are usually serves a singular core interest.

Don't forget that the Republican party was originally a peripheral, single-issue party concerned mainly with limiting the spread of slavery to new states. I'm just pointing this out as a reminder that things are fluid and parties can change and there is hope for third parties.

JASONZZZ

Friday, October 29, 2004 6:17 PM

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Originally posted by Diego:

The two major parties R & D act as huge issue vacuum cleaners. They run on an entire running lists of issues and platforms as compared to the 3rd parties which are usually serves a singular core interest.

Don't forget that the Republican party was originally a peripheral, single-issue party concerned mainly with limiting the spread of slavery to new states. I'm just pointing this out as a reminder that things are fluid and parties can change and there is hope for third parties.

That was a very different party that happen to have the same name though. And the conditions that allow those sort of changes aren't present in this climate. It could happen, but not that same way and prolly not thru slow build up of momentum.

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ODDNESS2HER

Friday, October 29, 2004 7:38 PM

The best reason for anyone to vote for Kerry:
checks and balances. Right now Republicans control White House, both houses of Congress and the Supreme Court (assuming Rehnquist survives a little longer). One-sided government is not healthy for democracy, no matter who is in charge.

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, August 6, 2024 1:49 AM

Forget about the lies of Iraq, RFK is killing Bears and making them ride Bikes in NYC

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, June 23, 2025 4:26 PM

meet the new guy Libertarians, same as the old guy?

Trump’s attack on Iran is likely unconstitutional, but not unprecedented

JAYNEZTOWN

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