Other Science Fiction Series

What Good Sci-Fi am I missing?

POSTED BY: Calhoun
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 5, 2026 07:08
VIEWED: 27121
PAGE 11 of 15

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, July 1, 2024 1:09 AM

Hate review by some?

'Initially Promising Dark Matter Sinks Under Weight of Prestige TV Bloat'

https://www.rogerebert.com/streaming/dark-matter-tv-review

Great show, is it perfect not sure, is it the greatest not sure. However it ranks in my Top10 for now easily.

The book had a great ending it was very like the ending of the show.

Yet I think the tv show did the ending a little better, it just adds a tiny but of extra something a moment with a character or a way to say another line of dialogue. The books seemed more finished but the tv show also has a great ending while leaving it a little open.

Blake Crouch as a Novelist or Writer might only be starting and yet to make his fantasy scifi book masterpiece but as an experience this tv show was great.

there are positives in entertainment
a failure of studios from Hollywood can learn a lot from this guy
it seems art can move forward and say something

Although this series is entertainment scifi I believe it is tell us something and maybe this tv series has a deeper meaning but it does not bash you over the head with a political statement because it is for you to decide what it says

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I took a gamble and had faith that they knew what they were doing and got us this far...

I would have liked it to do more quirky Twilight Zone stuff, how Currency was different or subtle hints on how language or slang might be different.

isnt it interesting your brain quickly knows Read vs READ or 'Reed' instrument vs 'Red' Color

Have you read many a scifi book? I had a drive went shopping and bought some stuff and had a speed read on some of the guys books so I had some idea what was coming
its one single book and an easy read

good books and the tv show maybe even better

‘Dark Matter’: Joel Edgerton & Showrunner Blake Crouch Dive Into Finale Spoilers, Season 2, ‘Star Wars’ & More
https://theplaylist.net/dark-matter-joel-edgerton-showrunner-blake-cro
uch-dive-into-finale-spoilers-season-2-star-wars-more-bingeworthy-podcast-20240628/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 1, 2024 7:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Great show, is it perfect not sure, is it the greatest not sure. However it ranks in my Top10 for now easily.

I won't say that it's perfect. I don't know if Perfect is possible. But damn if it wasn't close.

It's easy to say the greatest show right after you finished it. Is it better than Breaking Bad or Battlestar Galactica or some other shows in my Top 10? Probably something I'd have to wait a while to comment on if I was really going for objectivity. Might even require a 2nd watch of all of them too.

Easily makes my Top 5 or even Top 3 though. I don't think rewatching things would change that.

Quote:
The book had a great ending it was very like the ending of the show.

Yet I think the tv show did the ending a little better, it just adds a tiny but of extra something a moment with a character or a way to say another line of dialogue. The books seemed more finished but the tv show also has a great ending while leaving it a little open.

I like that you mentioned how they left it a "little open". I'm about 99.9% sure that was done to leave the door open for a 2nd season, but that's something I never want to see happen. I like how much was still left to the imagination with the way they ended it, even though it was much closer to a Hollywood ending than leaving you with only Episode 8 would have. Is there a happily ever after? Maybe... But we've watched enough shows like Sliders to know that the "Utopia" worlds usually weren't all they were cracked up to be, don't we?

I think the most important part to them sticking the landing on that end was the scene where they were going to leave in the box and they had to walk through 50 different versions of Jason who came there to say goodbye. You could cut the tension with a knife. What a horrible end for 50 or so versions of Jason who hadn't already been murdered or died somewhere in the box and never even made it back home.

To make it that far and still lose... It was not anything close to fair for any one of them. Imagine having to live the rest of your life losing everything you cared about while another version of you didn't. It's like your wife leaving you and taking the kid for another man, but that other man is just the lucky version of you.

That had to be done. They couldn't end this show with a neat little bow wrapped around it. If that scene wasn't in the last episode I think I probably would have hated the way that it ended.

Quote:
Blake Crouch as a Novelist or Writer might only be starting and yet to make his fantasy scifi book masterpiece but as an experience this tv show was great.

there is positives in entertainment
a failure of studios from Hollywood can learn a lot from this guy
it seems art can move forward and say something

Although this series is entertainment scifi I believe it is tell us something and maybe this tv series has a deeper meaning but it does not bash you over the head with a political statement because it is for you to decide what it says

Pretty sure there were some politics in there. The "Utopia" world was essentially Obamaworld.

I can overlook it though. I was just happy to know that Jason and Amanda would see each other again, even though that would kind of break Amanda's heart all over again when she saw Daniella. It was pretty awesome to see that she still appeared to be doing great and that Ryan-1 found her, not even knowing that Jason-1 and Daniella-1 were on their way to find him shortly... And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't even think that Jason-1 would have any clue that Ryan-1 was already here waiting for him too along with Amanda.

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I took a gamble and had faith that they knew what they were doing and got us this far...

isnt it interesting your brain quickly knows Read vs READ or 'Reed' instrument vs '

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 1, 2024 9:14 AM

Speaking of The Great Explosion, if you haven't ever read that, I would highly recommend it.

When I first joined this site I remember arguing that there's really nothing original out there and even though I loved Firefly and what Joss did, I think that he was HEAVILY inspired by Legacy of Heorot and some other Sci-Fi when he created the concept of the 'Verse itself. I had argued that this is because everything that we saw in Firefly could have been happening concurrently with every event that was happening on a remote planet that the cast of Legacy of Heorot were attempting to domesticate.

At the same time, on a far off distant planet, a man was teaching his son how to juggle geese.

Some of us traveled so far away from the governments to terraform a planet that it might take the Alliance another 200 years before they grew powerful enough to finally get around to "liberating" us. Maybe 500 years.

Maybe 1,000 years of solitude before they needed to expand further and take our resources?

Imagine all of those stories that could be told when the only limit is your imagination. No Multiverse Necessary.

Some of these planets could have civilizations that were over 1,000 years in the making before any one of them had ever met one of these now Biblical "Alliance" representatives. Seen by no living eyes and only fabled to have been the friends, family and co-workers of those who came here 12 generations before them. The original settlers of the only place they've ever known as home?

... incidentally, current polling indicated that before the first contact with the Alliance Representatives, roughly 4 out of every 5 citizens believed that The Alliance was real and that Space Travel was even possible. When polling was limited to only the 13 to 30 demographic, the number who believed The Alliance was not folklore had fallen dramatically to only 1 out of every 5 citizens.

It appears that the results of the infiltration of their planet by our sleeper operatives has gone beyond any of our wildest expectations this time. The day that we can claim we possess the ability to propagandize the youth of a planet fully to our designs in only 2 generations is yet to come... but 80.273% is a staggering increase of 1.2% above our previous record. We haven't seen anything like that in 2 decades. If we can replicate the success here and continue to make improvements at this rate, we could speed up the Liberation tenfold before our grandchildren retire.

Meanwhile... Progress IS progress. Every percent increase we make on the front end is half a percent decrease in work the bosses need to do on the back end.

Bonuses are going to be HUGE this year! Merry Fordmas!

I'd imagine the staggering amount of diversity of thought that would have been taking place in that Universe and how brokenly beautiful that would have been. The sheer amount of dissimilar thoughts from worlds who weren't aware of each other's existences or any of their unique views on any subject would be incalculable. That would have gone on for hundreds, or even potentially thousands of years. Right up until the day that The Alliance eventually expanded far enough to destroy the old culture and history of your People and made everyone the same.

Years later I read "And Then There Were None..." and as I was reading it, I was just weaving everything happening on that planet into the same universe shown to use in Firefly, and all the other connections I had made and integrated previously. Likely a different time than the events of Firefly as most of them were in my mind, but it really didn't matter if it took place 3 weeks before Mal bought Serenity or 1,000 years after Wash's funeral. These were all stories taking place in the same fictional universe.

Then one day, my brother gave me The Great Explosion for my birthday and well...

Now I had the blueprint and documented history of how interplanetary travel was invented in The '

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, July 3, 2024 10:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

It is. My apologies though... I'm not connecting A to B here....?

I think I was more commenting on book vs tv and how your mind moves through a picture from the language of books or a broadcast on film. This explores the concept of suspension of disbelief, the audience's willingness to accept a fictional story as real, for me in books it can depend on the flow of writing, the chosen characters and words...but in visual in scifi sometimes I like my scifi to be a little more on the hard scifi side than soft fantasy side like StarWars or Fantasy. For example I could nitpick with the money thing on the tv show or certain words in a book but if the story flows well it can rank among my Top 10. Artistic License happens when you don't need to see people charge their phones, you don't need to see them wash brush their teeth go to the bathroom and cook, a story will flow if characters from plot point A to plot points B, C, D, and so on, one of the Jason you accept as more ruthless because he's been to hell and back. The writer keeps it all moving just like a tv show does it through visuals and sounds, the Viewers are usually willing to accept it and go on that journey. I though they would find more magic Vial potions but it was done in a way that Acceptable Breaks a good plot point that did not take you too far from the Universe of Fictional Reality, you don't feel cheated as nobody pulled anything ridiculous out of their ass. A good book and a very good show.

I know of Eric Frank Russell and Larry Niven, but have never read 'The Legacy of Heorot' and 'The Great Explosion' another I did not read.

as for other shows, animated news

Arcane Will End With 2nd Season on Netflix
https://www.cancelledscifi.com/2024/06/12/cancellation-watch-arcane-wi
ll-end-with-2nd-season-on-netflix-evil-rises-in-the-nielsen-rankings-and-more/

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, July 6, 2024 6:22 PM

ok reviews

The Biggest Unanswered Questions We'll Never Know After 'Outer Range's Cancellation
https://collider.com/outer-range-season-2-unanswered-questions/

'Outer Range,' Starring Josh Brolin, Canceled at Amazon

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/outer-range-josh-brolin-c
anceled-amazon-1235938810/

Blade Runner 2099: Prime Video Series Reveals Cast

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/blade-runner-2099-prime-video-seri
es-rcast-revealed-hunter-schaeffer-michelle-yeoh/

'Three-Body Problem' film adaptation at script-polishing stage

https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/2406244748/

Noah Hawley's 'Alien' Series Gets a Terrifyingly Good Update

https://collider.com/alien-series-noah-hawley-update/

10 best sci-fi book-to-movie adaptations, ranked

https://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/10-best-sci-fi-book-to-movie-adap
tations/

Kalki 2898 AD, India's Most Expensive Movie Breaks Global Box Office Record

https://screenrant.com/kalki-2898-ad-global-box-office-record/

and not so good

“Star Trek: Discovery” (2017-2024); the often-problematic series that reignited Star Trek ends its own ‘five-year mission’
https://musingsofamiddleagedgeek.blog/2024/06/03/star-trek-discovery-2
017-2024-the-often-problematic-series-that-reignited-star-trek-ends-its-own-five-year-mission/

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, July 18, 2024 1:44 AM

Not really scifi but Sunny from Apple TV ...looks like an American black comedy with lots of Japan production and Japanese culture 'Sa Nii' mix of Katakana or Katakana kanji depending on its read, based on a book, woman living in Kyoto whose husband and son vanish...but unknown to her the husband worked on a type of AI cartoonish looking robot a robot who might be evil or had a glitch?

the main actress speaks very little Japanese which they explain through a dyslexia plot

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18070898/

based on a book, a dark comedy scifi-ish drama

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 18, 2024 2:43 AM

Black Comedy like Madea?

Or Dark Comedy like Very Bad Things?

--------------------------------------------------

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, July 18, 2024 4:28 PM

Sick of Remakes?

the 90s is when I really noticed a lot of remakes and Hollywood not even pretending to have an ounce not even a single gram of 'originality'

That's not scifi and

I deliberately avoided that movie back in the day, I have watched horror for a long while when young and older people's brothers used to get VHS, maybe this is when I first noticed Hollywood has no ideas at all. I got to see on VHS 'Stag' with Jerry Stiller, John Stockwell, Mario Van Peebles, Kevin Dillon maybe long long ago...they were never A+ List Actors but its almost exactly the same movie and got ZERO CREDIT if there is any difference it is more of a 'horror' and without the jokes of Cameron Diaz which rips it off as a total copycat it even has a few moments of dark comedy 6 months to 1 year later it gets ripped off

maybe these events were inspired by real life stories?

Overseas? Shallow Grave a 1994 British black comedy crime film, you had the Jackie Brown movie, The Last Supper an American satirical black comedy film also stars Cameron Diaz, more stupid and political comedy like 'So I Married an Axe Murderer'.

'An accidental death at a bachelor party spurs a night of shooting, kidnapping and murder in the host's home.'

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/36434-stag

There is a Feminist version called 'Rough Night' 2017 with Scarlett Johansson

I guess 'Stag' was ok in 1997...1 year 2 years and 20 years later I still could not be bothered to watch another 'Stag' by another name?

Awards some hype about 'A Murder at the End of the World'

Keeping this thread scifi themed

Perhaps they Hollyweird writers out of ideas they could do a Stag on Mars or Pluto?

Staying on the scifi topic
Noah Hawley & FX’s ‘Alien’ Series Gets Official Title ‘Alien: Earth’
https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/alien-earth-fx-series-official-title-
1236075991/

Strange Days 1995

it would make an ok tv show?

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, July 21, 2024 4:11 PM

did an oldish newish show 'The After' and Mark Snow did 2020 The New Mutants which was ok-ish but Covid panic was already here

David Duchovny, Gillian Anderson, Robert Patrick are active

David Duchovny Says ‘X-Files’ Creator Chris Carter “Foresaw” Conspiracy Culture Taking Over

https://deadline.com/2024/07/david-duchovny-says-x-files-creator-fores
aw-conspiracy-culture-taking-over-1236016744/

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, July 21, 2024 4:36 PM

So far smaller indie USA and European projects win against Hollyweird, South Korea tv shows and Japan animation.

the audio drama?

Is Audio Fiction Breathing New Life Into Short Stories?
https://nealflitherland.blogspot.com/2024/03/is-audio-fiction-breathin
g-new-life.html

a trailer that wants a kickstarter for books and a graphic novel

Huxley and the Warhammer animation guy, The Oracle Empire at the height of its power, a young recruit and an important mission deep into the wasteland