What Films Are You Looking Forward To In Cinema 2024?

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Originally posted by whozit:
According to Variety 'The Fall Guy' is looking at a $30 million plus opening, that may be why the critics like it?

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Well... If that's the case, it's another Box Office flop in 2024.

The production budget was $130 Million. It's going to need $325 Million to break even.

Making less than 10% of that in the states on opening weekend is a death sentence for this movie. They'd better hope for about $70-$100 Million additional from overseas when Monday's numbers roll in if they want a chance at breaking even.



These guys have GOT to get these budgets under control.

First thing first, axe the huge figures for the "stars". They are getting paid far more money than they're worth.





Here's an article on pay...

https://medium.com/@myreview24/how-much-money-did-ryan-gosling-make-for-the-fall-guy-829c6390ebaa

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Breakdown of Earnings: A Starring Role’s Worth

Unpacking an actor’s earnings for a major motion picture involves several components. Here’s a peek behind the curtain:

Base Salary: A-listers like Gosling typically command a hefty upfront payment, regardless of the film’s box office performance. This base salary can range from a cool $5 million to a staggering $20 million, depending on the actor’s star power and the project’s budget. “The Fall Guy,” with its reported $125 million budget, suggests Gosling likely landed on the higher end of this spectrum.

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If Gosling made $20 Million for Fall Guy, the movie needs to make $50 Million just to cover his pay.

Say Emily Blunt made $5 Million. They've got to make another $12.5 Million gross just to cover her pay.

And that's only two of the actors.


If those numbers were correct and they only got $1 Million each instead, the amount of money the movie would need to gross to hit breakeven point would be $57.5 Million less than it is right now, or $267 Million vs. the current $325 Million.

That alone still might not be enough to save this movie from losing money with only $30 Million domestic gross this weekend, but even if you're going to lose money anyway, it's better to lose $57.5 Million less.


They then go on to say...

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Bonuses: Performance-based incentives can significantly inflate an actor’s overall earnings. These bonuses often kick in after the film reaches certain box office milestones. Since “The Fall Guy” is shaping up to be a summer blockbuster, Gosling could potentially see additional millions added to his paycheck if the film performs well.

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"Shaping up to be a summer blockbuster" in what world? $30 Million on opening weekend is considered a summer blockbuster in 2024? I know that Hollywood has taken one hard on the chin, but that is absolutely pathetic.

And with $130 Million budgets, it's not even true.


Just go back to late summer last year when we were laughing at Blue Beetle only pulling in $25 Million gross in the US on opening weekend with a $120 Million budget. That ended up being a HUGE flop for DC, only pulling in $128 Million worldwide when it needed $300 Million to break even.


If there were any bonus clauses in either Gosling's or Blunt's contracts, the good news for Universal is that, contrary to anything this article says, they won't be paying out any of those if Fall Guy opens to only $30 Million.





Honestly, I don't even understand the media coverage on this one. If it's a great movie, great. I hope it does very well.

But it appears there's almost unanimous agreement at these online sites that the movie is going to be a success, but when you look at the numbers it paints the exact opposite picture. I'm not seeing what they're seeing at all.

So I'm going to have to strongly disagree with all of them, just as I had to disagree with anyone who thought Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire was going to be a success at the box office. The Fall Guy is set to be a huge box office flop. N

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Originally posted by Brenda:
I think I may have said this before the only thing I really know about Deadpool is that he knows how to push Wolvie's buttons and drive him even crazier than a lot of people think Wolvie is already. So Wolvie threatening to let the air out of Deadpool will be good for a laugh. :)

I'm glad to see 2 actors in a project that actually care about their characters.

So, yeah I am stoked for it.

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I never read Deadpool comics. I know he was out sometime in the mid 80's after I was born, but he was never on my radar. But my brother who was into comics a lot more than I was was a huge Deadpool fan and was super pissed when they released Wolverine: Origins and how they treated Deadpool in that movie.

Me, not knowing anything about Deadpool at all when I saw it on cable didn't hate the movie as I guess most folk did.

However much my brother hated that movie, Ryan Reynolds hated it even more and he spent the next 7 years making sure a legitimate representation of Deadpool made it to the screen.

So I do think it's really cool that he got Hugh Jackman on board to reprise his role as Wolverine so they can make the movie Ryan would have wanted to make back before he had any pull in Hollywood.

And I'm sure they're going to roast Wolverine: Origins plenty in this movie.





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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

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Originally posted by Brenda:
I think I may have said this before the only thing I really know about Deadpool is that he knows how to push Wolvie's buttons and drive him even crazier than a lot of people think Wolvie is already. So Wolvie threatening to let the air out of Deadpool will be good for a laugh. :)

I'm glad to see 2 actors in a project that actually care about their characters.

So, yeah I am stoked for it.

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I never read Deadpool comics. I know he was out sometime in the mid 80's after I was born, but he was never on my radar. But my brother who was into comics a lot more than I was was a huge Deadpool fan and was super pissed when they released Wolverine: Origins and how they treated Deadpool in that movie.

Me, not knowing anything about Deadpool at all when I saw it on cable didn't hate the movie as I guess most folk did.

However much my brother hated that movie, Ryan Reynolds hated it even more and he spent the next 7 years making sure a legitimate representation of Deadpool made it to the screen.

So I do think it's really cool that he got Hugh Jackman on board to reprise his role as Wolverine so they can make the movie Ryan would have wanted to make back before he had any pull in Hollywood.

And I'm sure they're going to roast Wolverine: Origins plenty in this movie.





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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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All I saw of Deadpool in the comics was from references in the Wolverine and X-Men comics. Wolverine and X-Men were and still are my jam when it comes to comics. :)

I watched Wolverine: Origins once and have never watched it again because of the hash they made out of my Wolvie.

Funny, I don't remember Deadpool in Wolverine: Origins so he never made much of an impression on me.

Personally, I think Hugh Jackman has a blast playing everyone's favourite Canucklehead as Wolvie has often referred to himself as. Outside of Wolvie my next favourite is Gambit.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
All I saw of Deadpool in the comics was from references in the Wolverine and X-Men comics. Wolverine and X-Men were and still are my jam when it comes to comics. :)

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You probably have WAY more knowledge of comics than I do, TBH. I only really got into them when I was a kid because my dad had collected when he was younger and had quite an impressive collection. I read a few comics with superheros as a kid that I bought, but mostly they just ended up bagged and borded because I thought I was going to be rich one day off of them. To this day, none of them are worth the paper they were printed on. I've got comics my old man gave me for Chirstmas as a kid that weren't worth much back then but now are worth easily 10 to 20 times what any of the junk I collected in the 80's and 90's is worth.

Hell... I even have Guardians of the Galaxy #1 in near mint condition and it's only worth like $30 bucks. They were just printing too many comics by the time I was growing up, and everybody else had the same idea as I did too, so there's probably 5,000 copies of Guardians of the Galaxy #1 out there that are in even better shape than mine and nobody want's to pay more than 2 movie tickets for any of them.



The only comics I really read in earnest were the Weird Science reprints my dad was getting around the same time. I liked Tales From the Crypt and The Vault of Horror too, but Weird Science was my jam. Those EC comics reprints in the 80s were awesome.

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I watched Wolverine: Origins once and have never watched it again because of the hash they made out of my Wolvie.

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I don't remember much of it at all, TBH. I remember being kind of bored, but then I also remember that I did like the lighting in the movie for some odd reason. There was a bit of intrigue there in the lore of how Wolverine got his adamantium skeleton and claws, but you'd know so much better than I would if any of that was even in the comics or they just made it up for the movie.

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Funny, I don't remember Deadpool in Wolverine: Origins so he never made much of an impression on me.

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Yup. Played by Ryan Reynolds himself!

That dude has always been Deadpool.

From what I remember, he was a normal dude in the beginning that didn't wear the mask. At that point he was basically Ryan Reynolds playing Ryan Reynolds in 90% of Deadpool's costume. Witty guy, this alternate reality Deadpool, but over-talkative to the point that I think it would get grating after a while in real life.

And if memory serves, his big mouth is why he got his mouth entirely removed when the "operations" were done to turn him into a super soldier or something. And I think it was by the same guy that put the adamantium inside Logan too. At that point is was angry Ryan Reyonlds that couldn't quip and just had angry eyebrows against Wolverine in the final showdown. I think maybe he was being completely mind controlled at this point too and didn't even have a personality anymore, so the guy removing his mouth was just really being a dick for no reason there.



So I'm actually really glad we had this conversation now so I could remind you of that. This ain't Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynold's first rodeo together.

This is going to be a 15 Year Reunion for both of them playing the same characters they did back then.

Hell... I think I'm probably going to watch Wolverine: Origins again before I watch Deadpool 3 just to see how different they are. Kind of a study on what happens when Corporate Suits have all the control over a movie VS. when a superfan actor does.

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Personally, I think Hugh Jackman has a blast playing everyone's favourite Canucklehead as Wolvie has often referred to himself as. Outside of Wolvie my next favourite is Gambit.

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I would hope that he loved that job. I'm just about the furthest thing from a comic book movie fa

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

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Originally posted by Brenda:
All I saw of Deadpool in the comics was from references in the Wolverine and X-Men comics. Wolverine and X-Men were and still are my jam when it comes to comics. :)

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You probably have WAY more knowledge of comics than I do, TBH. I only really got into them when I was a kid because my dad had collected when he was younger and had quite an impressive collection. I read a few comics with superheros as a kid that I bought, but mostly they just ended up bagged and borded because I thought I was going to be rich one day off of them. To this day, none of them are worth the paper they were printed on. I've got comics my old man gave me for Chirstmas as a kid that weren't worth much back then but now are worth easily 10 to 20 times what any of the junk I collected in the 80's and 90's is worth.

Hell... I even have Guardians of the Galaxy #1 in near mint condition and it's only worth like $30 bucks. They were just printing too many comics by the time I was growing up, and everybody else had the same idea as I did too, so there's probably 5,000 copies of Guardians of the Galaxy #1 out there that are in even better shape than mine and nobody want's to pay more than 2 movie tickets for any of them.



The only comics I really read in earnest were the Weird Science reprints my dad was getting around the same time. I liked Tales From the Crypt and The Vault of Horror too, but Weird Science was my jam. Those EC comics reprints in the 80s were awesome.

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I watched Wolverine: Origins once and have never watched it again because of the hash they made out of my Wolvie.

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I don't remember much of it at all, TBH. I remember being kind of bored, but then I also remember that I did like the lighting in the movie for some odd reason. There was a bit of intrigue there in the lore of how Wolverine got his adamantium skeleton and claws, but you'd know so much better than I would if any of that was even in the comics or they just made it up for the movie.

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Funny, I don't remember Deadpool in Wolverine: Origins so he never made much of an impression on me.

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Yup. Played by Ryan Reynolds himself!

That dude has always been Deadpool.

From what I remember, he was a normal dude in the beginning that didn't wear the mask. At that point he was basically Ryan Reynolds playing Ryan Reynolds in 90% of Deadpool's costume. Witty guy, this alternate reality Deadpool, but over-talkative to the point that I think it would get grating after a while in real life.

And if memory serves, his big mouth is why he got his mouth entirely removed when the "operations" were done to turn him into a super soldier or something. And I think it was by the same guy that put the adamantium inside Logan too. At that point is was angry Ryan Reyonlds that couldn't quip and just had angry eyebrows against Wolverine in the final showdown. I think maybe he was being completely mind controlled at this point too and didn't even have a personality anymore, so the guy removing his mouth was just really being a dick for no reason there.



So I'm actually really glad we had this conversation now so I could remind you of that. This ain't Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynold's first rodeo together.

This is going to be a 15 Year Reunion for both of them playing the same characters they did back then.

Hell... I think I'm probably going to watch Wolverine: Origins again before I watch Deadpool 3 just to see how different they are. Kind of a study on what happens when Corporate Suits have all the control over a movie VS. when a superfan actor does.

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Personally, I think Hugh Jackman has a blast playing everyone's favourite Canucklehead as Wolvie has often referred to himself as. Outside of Wolvie my next favourite is Gambit.

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I would hope that he loved that job. I'm just abou

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