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Thursday, June 13, 2024 6:58 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I love shows like this that make you think about choices and how you think you would handle situations outside of the mundane. It's really good writing when you can empathize with and understand the motivations behind character's decisions. Especially when when they're making really bad choices.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Slowly, Jason is wising up:

I'm leaving a world today where our boy made it.
Where Max is alive.
I almost took that Jason's life the same way mine was taken.
But I realized something.
I need my life and my family, no one else's.
I used to think that life was about reaching some perfect destination.
Because I hadn't reached it yet, I felt somehow ill at ease.
But I had seen the perfection.
I had reached it, and I'm starting to suspect that it is the imperfections of life that amount to a different kind of perfection.
I just wanna be home . . . back on the journey . . . with this version of you.

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In an alternate reality, Trump is steady. In this reality? Trump is a fruit cake full of nuts.
Let’s Talk About Trump’s Gibberish
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, June 13, 2024 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
I think I'm current now on ep 7, it feels like its all lined up for a conclusion soon like a mid-season ending or end of season finale but I don't know whats a season anymore back in the old days with DVDs and television a season was almost half a year 24 episodes an episode per week on tv? I didn't realize Roxann Dawson had done so much writing and directing, known for her Star Trek acting playing the half Human half Klingon character B'Elanna Torres

I actually got all caught up last night after writing that post and finished through episode 7 too. I hear there is 8 episodes.

I have not heard anything about whether this is a one season show or if they plan on more seasons. But I see what you're talking about with the conclusion being lined up now. I had a feeling while episode 7 was wrapping up that the story will probably finish at episode 8. I suppose they could milk this for more seasons if they wanted to, but I think it would have to do with the box and the potentialities of the box, rather than the characters that are in the show right now. They could bring some of the characters back, I suppose... But they'd have to be really good at explaining why they're even involved anymore. I can't imagine anybody we know right now ever wanting anything to do with that box after all of this is over. And god forbid that box ever fell into government hands. That would be the end of all the universes.

Thanks for pointing out that Roxanne Dawson was Torres. I wouldn't have known that otherwise. It's one more think I'll tell my old man about it, since Voyager was his favorite Star Trek.

The part I was talking about after watching episode 5 was the scene where they went to the world where those beastly looking hornets had killed everybody on the planet and they found Blair. That she could make that place her home for months rather than take a chance to find a better one. Even when her friend finds her, she can't summon up the courage to go with them and take another chance because of the horrors she's seen.

At least she would not give her remaining ampules to them because part of her felt that she might have what it takes to make that journey one day, but you get the feeling that it's also a trip that she might never make. She would rather spend the rest of her life feeding that generator and putting on a hazmat suit and layers of clothing to go outside in the swarms to scavenge for food only to come back to a dark room and nothing but her own solitude rather than try to find a world that was at least more hospitable to human life. She's living out Tom Hanks' "Cast Away", but she's got a plane ride off of the island.

Fear of the unknown is a very powerful demotivator.

I REALLY like that in episode 6 they brought up the idea of how futile it would be to try to find your exact world when the nature of infinity means that the hardest part was not finding worlds that weren't destroyed and dangerous, but trying to find the one where some minor, inconsequential thing wasn't different and you weren't already there. (Do you remember on Sliders that episode where he found his way home, but he left because the gate on his parents white picket fence didn't squeak? And you find out right after they all leave for the next world that his father had finally got around to putting oil on the gate hinges after all those years?)

And it was really good how they started walking a tightrope down the dark path too. Where he broke into "his" house with the same key to the house on his world and watched the both of them sleeping, contemplating killing the other version of him to have what was his... even if it meant that they weren't really his. They had to do this, because it was another version of him who started all of this in the first place and we already know what another version of him who lived a different life is capable of.

And on that

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, June 14, 2024 5:48 AM

Ok I must say SixString thanks for putting me onto this new Dark Matter show. I think I should search for this guy's book I'm maybe going to drive some dozens of miles maybe 24 mile or for those in Euroland metric more 40 km, search some old Novel DVD Book places if they are still open and look for something wrote by 'Blake Crouch' not on the net but a book I can physically buy and read, most DVD place might be closed, I know a lot of old book sellers still open.

Prediction Observation
'Jason' an actor name, it pops up common as name but also a good name for a bad guy, going on adventures try Jason and the Argonauts, loss of memory try Jason Bourne, wars and blood and girlfriends killed and occult murder then Jason Voorhees for example stab slash stab slasher horror films

My predictions - not always correct I admit but I think they change it, they will introduce a new timeline or world and go Man in the High Castle style...Jason-The-3rd-Stalin-Hitler is introduced.
They wrap it up in the last episodes or so...roads never taken but it changes....
but as it seems like its about to be a happy ending, they introduce Jason-3 who is a Multi-Universe spanning 'Vilos Cohaagen' so by indorducing a 3rd Jason it seems Jason-2 is not that evil and instead a new Jason-3rd will be introduced not like Jason-1 and even far worse than Jason-2...in fact Jason-2 is running from Jason-3 but as he ran to different worlds, Jason-2 is bad-ish got distracted and seduced, the new Jason-3 is basically Vader, a really evil Joe Stalin Adolf Hitler mustachio villain which explains why Jason-2 is not so bad and didn't kill Jason 1 during the first kidnapping, even wanted to offer the kidnapped Jason-1 riches and unfortunately went a little nuts and maybe Jason-2 watching Jason-1 went insane and felt some connection while stealing and destroying the lives of people...he's bad but a different shade of bad compared to what is yet to come.

I'm not sure how you would write beyond multi-verse evil Jason-3

I'm not sure how a writer would wrap it up fitting 'Ryan' who never gets a break, the kid Charlie and therapist girlfriend Amanda in all this, maybe an event happens that allows another kidnapping or marooning that links to Season 2 ...unless I have predicted all of the future writing beyond ep 7 incorrectly the author has the plot figured out and warped it all up in the books?

maybe I'm trolling or joking a little

Jason-1 then J-2, J-3
they will keep going with this pattern until they introduced a Trumpist Orange Haired J-6

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 14, 2024 6:48 AM

No problem man. I'm glad you're really enjoying it. I already thanked my friend for bringing this one to my attention, but I'll have to thank him again after it's over. I don't imagine I ever would have heard of it if he didn't bring it to me.

No offense, but I skipped over your predictions for now. I may or may not make some of my own before the last episode too. I'll take a look at yours after I see it.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, June 17, 2024 12:05 AM

Ok I found this guy's books Blake Crouch, I should be finished 'Dark Matter' novel soon, its an easy read a fast paced book and page turner. Half way through the book Chapter 7 I think you are only ep1-2 into the tv show, the book is good but the tv show has filled it out a bit more, I respect the book for its originality and it is very good at getting inside the head of the person but maybe just maybe the tv show does one or two things a little better which isn't really a surprise since its a team of writers developing stuff for tv vs one single writer of a novel.

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The Best Sci-Fi Movies of the 1980s
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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 25, 2024 8:24 AM

Jupiter?!!!! Where the flippin' hell is MY Jupiter!!!!!?????

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
My predictions - not always correct I admit but I think they change it, they will introduce a new timeline or world and go Man in the High Castle style...Jason-The-3rd-Stalin-Hitler is introduced.
They wrap it up in the last episodes or so...roads never taken but it changes....
but as it seems like its about to be a happy ending, they introduce Jason-3 who is a Multi-Universe spanning 'Vilos Cohaagen' so by indorducing a 3rd Jason it seems Jason-2 is not that evil and instead a new Jason-3rd will be introduced not like Jason-1 and even far worse than Jason-2...in fact Jason-2 is running from Jason-3 but as he ran to different worlds, Jason-2 is bad-ish got distracted and seduced, the new Jason-3 is basically Vader, a really evil Joe Stalin Adolf Hitler mustachio villain which explains why Jason-2 is not so bad and didn't kill Jason 1 during the first kidnapping, even wanted to offer the kidnapped Jason-1 riches and unfortunately went a little nuts and maybe Jason-2 watching Jason-1 went insane and felt some connection while stealing and destroying the lives of people...he's bad but a different shade of bad compared to what is yet to come.

I'm not sure how you would write beyond multi-verse evil Jason-3

I'm not sure how a writer would wrap it up fitting 'Ryan' who never gets a break, the kid Charlie and therapist girlfriend Amanda in all this, maybe an event happens that allows another kidnapping or marooning that links to Season 2 ...unless I have predicted all of the future writing beyond ep 7 incorrectly the author has the plot figured out and warped it all up in the books?

Your prediction wasn't that far off, but was entirely off at the same time.

Have you seen Episode 8 yet? I'm amazed right now. I didn't see that coming, and I'm only just a little bit mad at myself for that. They got me good.

I'm blanking out the rest for spoilers just in case you haven't watched the last episode man...

I'm perfectly fine with them ending this exactly the way that they did and would not be disappointed at all if they never make a Season 2. Pure "Black Mirror" nightmare fuel.

I mentioned a few episodes back how glad I was that they went into the topic of how finding the correct universe that EXACTLY matched his own would be virtually impossible because of how many universes would have been almost carbon copies of each other with only superficial differences that hardly anybody would ever notice. But this....?

And they actually had me feeling awful for about 5 minutes there when it looked like Jason 2 killed Jason 1 within the first few minutes of the episode. I thought to myself "well... I guess this story is about Daniella and the kid now. How do they get out of this safely?".

I honestly have no idea what just happened. I don't think watching it over and over and over again would make it any clearer either.

At no point in the episode, at least from anything I could tell, do you know which Jason is which. You want to believe the Jason you end up following to the end is the "right" Jason, but why? Just because he was the first of possibly INFINITE Jasons that will eventually make their way back to talk to her? At least the first one had different clothes. By the end they didn't.

Daniella's no dummy. In that last scene, that wasn't the look of a woman who was still pissed off at the wrong guy. That was the terror of a woman who just got all of this dropped on her an hour before and now she's got all the same thoughts as I do running through her head.

How do I know that you're MY Jason???

Oh yeah...

And we've got no reason to even believe the explanation for the multiple Jasons that we were told through the conversation of Jason 1.x and Jason 1.x. They couldn't know that for sure. If it came to bot

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 25, 2024 9:23 AM

Goddammmmmmmmit!!!!!!

THAT WAS THE PERFECT ENDING TO THE SHOW.

I just found out there is an episode 9 coming out on Wednesday. I don't know where I heard there were only 8 episodes, but I'd heard that very early on and just thought that was the case. Both my brother and my old man watched it last week and "finished" it before I did. My old man thought the ending was "great" and he said they could leave it like that or definitely put another season on it. But we haven't discussed it at all because I didn't want any spoilers.

They both think that's the ending too since that's what I told 'em.

Fuck....

I don't know what I want to do man. I just said that if they make a Season 2 they'd better make it count because anything less than amazing would devalue Season 1.

Now I have to decide if I want to even watch the final episode or not.

Jeez....

I guess I probably have to. I put a whole lot of possibilities of questions I thought we'd never get answers to and maybe one or two of them are addressed.

I really don't want to though. I loved the ending of Episode 8 as the ending to the entire series.

This show has managed to surprise me with how well it can surprise me, but does it keep that edge up to the very last minute? I don't see how their ending could match what I thought was their ending until 10 minutes ago.

I never watched the final episode of The Sopranos, even though I've seen every episode of it otherwise two times.

I'm just afraid that watching the final episode instead of stopping at 8 here would be like watching the last few episodes of Deadwood when the climax already happened and the new story they were just starting to tell got cancelled before they could finish it.

How they going to wrap that up in an hour?

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:32 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Your prediction wasn't that far off, but was entirely off at the same time.

Have you seen Episode 8 yet? I'm amazed right now. I didn't see that coming, and I'm only just a little bit mad at myself for that. They got me good.

I'm fine on spoilers, I went for a drive looking for some old Novel DVD Book places
I found a place for second hand novels, comics, books place and bought some of his books and 'Dark Matter' is an easy read, I read it in a little over a day, first day I mostly had a lot of time free...but maybe it can be read in 2-3 days or depending if you've free time, you might read in 24 hrs and youre an ok reader you should get through most of it.
The book and show are similar but they go on different paths, the show might leave it open for another story, the show and book are already different.

Another one of the things the show does better, 'Max' grief
in the book there is no Twin named Max

The character Amanda barley exists in the book at times.

The book Jason is more of a loser cuck bum, he literally goes into homeless drunk mode and gets robbed the vials smashed.

In the show you have a visual hint, Jason1 has a slight scar cut across his nose everyone else has different baggage and experienced life differently. Despite all the crazy stuff happening the dice are falling and he still looks at life with some empathy and optimism, he has his own quirky wisdom that helps him link up to the family.
You are depending on the visual fx cgi guys or make-up art department to keep that scar across and near his nose.

The books? Jason-1 is First perspective and you read close to him that's how you know its Japosn1, there is no real 2nd person perspective, only maybe during computer stuff, you might find it during written instruction in a assemble manual or a religion guidance book, 2nd is tough to write but I think there are examples mrs dalloway by Virginia Woolf?
Third perspective is common in the book, and in stories of tension and 'suspense' the other Jason's seen like a Fly on the Wall perspective so you know that Jason-1 is Real-Jason as it is written in the 'First Perspective'
Reading books they can split people by writing 'main character' in first perspective, others not 2nd but third in others books they might go really out there universal crazy
There might also be a Schizo Perspective in some other scifi books, Dr Doom or Venom or Joker... Doom somewhat omniscient for example in a comicbook or cartoon will often refer to himself in the third person, Fourth and Fifth person is when it gets weird and is less defined, some say fourth is like a political movement 'us' lots of ours and we, maybe Ghosts talking as a group or 'TheBorg'.
You almost always know its Jason-1 in the books by reading his personal feelings, its as if you hear his inner thoughts like a person saying to themselves 'I want to go back to my wife and son.'
In the novels you know its Jason-1 by where the writer sets the scene and is looking from. If you write say 'fan fiction' then you can layer even more in your stories, you can write in the 2nd but its difficult, it would be following radio commands for example, a cryptic religion scifi psychic scroll message, following someone on the phone, a speaker giving info in the bunker or silo, instruct the chief of police to bring prisoners for interrogation. The third person describes characters from a bit of distance, like you are hearing distant story or watching film footage, the third person when used in a thrill or romance can add a feeling of voyeurism or like you are being tacked or stalked or followed.
Jason-1 is wrote as 1st in the books with more personalization maybe 'intimacy'.
I will admit the show might be better than Dark Matter Novel, the show kind of improves on a number of things but there are parts of the book I also like. The show has more writers so it had a cha

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, June 26, 2024 1:28 AM

I appreciate you not spoiling anything there while discussing the differences between the book and the movie. I was being real careful as I read.

Thanks for the insight.

Did you see Episode 8 yet? If you have, I'm curious what you thought about the ending and if you thought that would have been as great of an ending as I thought it was for the series.

I think I'm going to watch the real final episode tomorrow when it comes out. I hope I'm not disappointed, although I can't think of a way where I wouldn't be. What I really don't want to see is some bullshit happy Hollywood ending using some Deus Ex Machina that changes all the rules last minute to wrap it all up in an hour.

I don't necessarily want a BAD ending, but that's why the ending to Episode 8 was the perfect ending to the series. The ambiguity. Leaving it up to the viewer to ponder and come up with their own infinite possibilities about how everything could play out from there.

Jason 1 making it back to his family and they all live happily ever after when the odds of that would be the equivalent of winning the Powerball while being struck by lightning twice isn't going to cut it.

But whatever the true ending is, there should be some hope left in there too. Maybe people don't get the happy ending they wanted, but they leave in just enough to give you the sense that everything could still work out.

Oh... and you mentioned the scar on his nose...

Yeah. That's true. But at the same time, there could be an infinite number of Jason-1.x's out there that have that same scar on their nose too. I'm not convinced at all that the Jason we were following in Episode 8 was the same Jason that we had been following in episodes 1-7, or that any of the Jason's that we followed in any of the episodes were the same Jason for that matter.

Really wild stuff.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 30, 2024 11:29 AM

Hey Jaynez... I see you haven't replied to this yet.

I'm wondering if you saw it to the end yet or not?

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I don't necessarily want a BAD ending, but that's why the ending to Episode 8 was the perfect ending to the series. The ambiguity. Leaving it up to the viewer to ponder and come up with their own infinite possibilities about how everything could play out from there.

I watched Episode 9.

I took a gamble and had faith that they knew what they were doing and got us this far...

I was not disappointed.

I can think of a whole lot of ways they could have finished this poorly, and it was nothing even remotely close to any those. I'm supremely satisfied with the path they chose to end this series.

It went places that I did not imagine it would go, and it was all the better for it. Every deliberate choice. They managed to give it a Hollywood Ending, despite also giving us the exact opposite of that at the same time... ultimately finding a way to end this show in such a manner that it was unlike anything I have ever experienced before.

I'm very happy I watched it to the end. I Have zero complaints. It's one of the best TV shows I have ever watched. From my limited perspective, I would argue that it was one of the greatest TV shows ever made.

My sincere congratulations to everyone involved in this production.

Season 2 is completely unnecessary, and I hope that we never see anyone announce it.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.