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The Sorrows Of Empire by Chalmers Johnson

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Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:29 AM

Antimason

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DT- Nazrallah is not the return of Christ..im not sure what scriptures they base that off of..but Jesus explicitly says that all will be

transformed at his ressurection; although you bring up a great point, which i have been trying to make



Not to us, sure, but to them, the whole thing is a matter of perspective. Every prophecy has to be interpreted. I don't fault their interpretation, its

at least as good as what I hear here, IMHO, but as a non-believer it makes no difference to me, except to see the forces at work, the sway of

the tide.

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the scriptures are full of warnings to be aware of false christs, and destructive heresies; i believe that the occult, which is a satanic

perversion of christianity,



The whole philosophy of life is like a train, and though there may be many ways to arrive at the final destination, the truth, this is the point where

I think you jump the track. Let me focus in on it.

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the occult, which is a satanic perversion of christianity,


Stated as a matter of fact. This is not the case, I am sure of it. I don't know if I'm more sure of my version, but I'm more sure that you're not

looking at this objectively. The reality is, the group of practices that you, and wikipedia, sweep into the category of "the occult" actually have

nothing to do with christianity. They're not a perversion of it, opposed to it, in favor of it, they don't talk to it over support. They don't have a

restraining order against it, they are no relation to it at all. None, zippo, nada. There is no connection between the occult and christianity, two or

more different faiths with nothing in common.

Even the biblical claim of Jezebel as evil, demonic, devil worshipping whatever is absurd. Different faiths are based on unrelated things, each

has a history of it's own, people, words, thoughts, dreams, and if you believe, spirits and the like. But no connection to your faith, regardless of

what your faith thinks of those other faiths. But this isn't just supposition on my part, it's a historical fact. These faiths all have well recorded

history with no underworld satanic chrisitan influence. In fact, they're completely alien. Many predate christ, moses, and the whole lot of them.

The christian fantasy of this connection is a belief in a set of events having happened in history that is just not so. Not only is there a complete

absense of hard evidence, but the sketchy supposed evidence of early judean influence in europe was fabricated by the nazis to support their

absurd claim that they were the true children of israel.

I hope you get this point, because without grasping this fundamental reality, your theory is going nowhere.
No point could be more salient to the situation.
Moving on...

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is decieving much of the world in preparation for the coming of antichrist, and the NWO kingdom of the beast. Lucifer is THE GOD of

occultism, and is highly respected...and according to prophecy, will fool many of the "elect" into believing he is the returned messiah. i think this

is significant, because the negetive aspects of christianity i believe, are attributed to occult influences. the KKK, or Masonry, are both good

examples of how Jesus' doctrines have been altered to become something else entirely..while still claiming to be christian



This is better. I think it's entirely possible that something similar to this will play out. It's also possible that the seed of the idea is a bad one, and

that both sides are conducting a self fulfilling prophecy based on the idea that they are the good guys. I can see a group of secular people

manipulating the myth to get people to behave in a particular way. Considering the amound of deadly sins this group is racking up, anything

goes, but I think they're degenerate great satan not because they actively chose to worship satan, but because they themselves are fallen.

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i just became a christian a few years ago..but i will

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 2:51 PM

The Wall St War Economy and illegal immigrant NGO smuggler economy


but what if Less Wars, Less Invasions, Less Gun Runners and Build Roads and Trains and build Science Research and fix the illegals at the Border and Energy Grids and build green infrastructure?

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 4:39 PM

The USSR gone and now Putin's Empire is in decay

For some reason both the USA and USA have helped islamics and not allowed them to collapse but expand
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EDIT typo that should be USSR and USA

The USA if you want to call it an 'Empire' maybe it expands, falls back and expands again, it fails at Philippines, Syria, Vietnam, Afghanistan...

the Japan Imperial Empire short and fast lived but not as dumb as ISIS, post-War it was an economic Empire but now in decline

maybe the EU Empire with 'Brexit'

other Empires have come and gone before, Portugal, France, the Spanish the British the Royals, Masonic rituals, trade routes, the USA 1776 is celebrated in the United States as the official beginning of the nation, with the Declaration of a new nation a new Union of States, the British decline and slowly come back, War of 1812 a little scary for Washington, Spanish and Mexicans beaten, Paiwan War, Boxer Rebellion, Red Cloud's War, trying to take redskin Indian lands the Arikara War sometimes successful but not always, Utah War, a huge loss of human life in the US Civil War,
World War I in 1914 marked the end of the Pax Britannica
Pax Britannica seeing other threats the rise of Germans, beat the French they said and for a time adopted the role of a "global policeman".


How will the modern empires of ISIS or British, compare to the old the Greeks, the Egyptians, the Chinese, the Khmer Empire, Zhou Empire, internal struggles of Emperors and Empires of Japan, Holy Roman Empire, Assyrian Kingdom, Ming Empire, Pandyan Empire of South India, Parthian Iranian Empire, the Turkmenistani Ottoman Turkish, the Korean Silla dynasty, Roman/Eastern Roman Empire, while Rome was powerful Rome itself later fell to the Germanic “Barbarians”

most Empires are finished after 250 years

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Anyone here read it? I just skimmed it (My FIL brought a copy over w/him) and BOY does it seem like something we should all take a good look at....

Especially 'some of us' Chrisisall


Clearly CHRISISALL is a Putin puppet.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
The USSR gone and now Putin's Empire is in decay

Nobody in the Kremlin wants an empire, so how can something that never was "decay"?

Russia, tho, is doing well.

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For some reason both the USA and USA have helped islamics and not allowed them to collapse but expand


You still don't get it, do you?

The USA has been funding, arming, and training jihadists to do our dirty work for us, ever since we gave the "mujahideen" in Afghanistan a crap-ton of Stinger missiles.

Ever since then, we've been arming, training, and funding them either directly or indirectly (thru Saudi Arabia and Jordan) to do our dirty work for us. In Chechnya (as "separatists"), Syria (as "moderate rebels") and Libya (as "freedom fighters")

Our State Dept should pay attention to the saying "Man who sleeps with dogs wakes up wiyh fleas". But, of course, we don't mind what tyrant or terrorist we make common cause with.


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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 11:55 PM

that's a typo it should read both the USA and USSR / Russia


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:


The USA has been funding, arming, and training jihadists to do our dirty work for us, ever since we gave the "mujahideen" in Afghanistan a crap-ton of Stinger missiles.



both the West / Ukraine and Russia are paying Chechen Mercs to kill the other side in Ukraine they are giving them tech, pay them in bitcoins or whatever to kill, Chechnya criminal killers are taking payment and killing depending on whichever side is offering better payment that day.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:


Our State Dept should pay attention to the saying "Man who sleeps with dogs wakes up wiyh fleas". But, of course, we don't mind what tyrant or terrorist we make common cause with.




yes I have called out US madness and the BS politics

and what of the example set by Putin

supporting North Korea, Belarus, Iranians, Libya the lunatics who blew up civilian airliners, North Korea a Communist State a Regime and a cult dynasty family, Venezuela madness a crazy socialist marxist nation under a centralized authoritarian state, an endless Civil War in Yemen, most of the forgotten Dictators or Europe with Belarus being one of the last, random dictators across Africa, supporting every corrupted former Socialist Republic under their influence whatever nutjob is living in Uzbekistan military influences, giving Iranians all the weapons they need as they send loons around the world to kill writers like Rushdie for insulting their pedophile jihadist prophet mahomet a pervert and killer that muzzies think is a 'prophet' and Putin supporting this culture equally as much as the West arms them.

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 3:01 AM

Chechens are a formal part of the Russian army, not a bunch of unaffiliated terrorists. And, AFAIK, Chechens in Rosgvardiya (which are the Chechens in Ukraine) don't commit terrorist actions.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Tuesday, June 25, 2024 11:09 PM

Wanted: a Mass Uprising Against the Neoliberal Matrix

https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/06/14/wanted-a-mass-uprising-against
-the-neoliberal-matrix
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Chechens are a formal part of the Russian army, not a bunch of unaffiliated terrorists.



LMFAO you are not watching approved broadcasts from that idiot Putin

They constantly switch sides

The Chechen, Azerbaijanis, islamo Russians of the region, Lezgins, mixed Chechens, Avars, Dargins, Turkic tribal Turkish tribe Turkmenistani Kumyks are doing a pretty good job of joining terror groups and carrying out mass terror attacks


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Russia seems to be decaying from within,
islamist fires once again creating mass murder of innocent and jihadist fires burning in the South.

You-tube might take offense to something and maybe delete these types of vids, they will also be found on bitchute, rumble or odysee

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Monday, July 22, 2024 2:56 PM

will it make it to 300

America’s Summer of Discontent, 250 years ago

https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/07/americas-summer-of-discontent-250
-years-ago
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Tuesday, July 23, 2024 4:44 PM

oil leaks and unexploded bombs

generations later and still costing the planet?

Pacific nations urge Japan to clean up WWII shipwrecks

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Environment/Pacific-nations-urge-Jap
an-to-clean-up-WWII-shipwrecks

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