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Disney Studios first 2024 release: Inside Out 2

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Friday, June 14, 2024 11:53 AM

Any predictions on this one?

92%/96% currently on Rotten Tomatoes. Tonight is preview night.

Bruce already shows it cost a stupid $200 Million to make.


The first movie cost $175 Million to make in 2015. It grossed $356 Million in the US and $850.5 Million Worldwide.




I don't even have any guesses right now. I have no idea how the first Disney movie in six months and the first Pixar movie in a year is going to play with audiences. I have no idea the woke quotient of the movie either. I know it will make less than the first one just because so many less people are splurging on movie tickets in this economy, but how much less?

The only things to compare to right now would be Garfield, Kung Fu Panda 4 and IF. Garfield is crossing $200 Million in only 22 days on a budget of only $60 Million and has been a great success. It will likely end up the 9th bestselling movie of 2024 so far. It will also be only the 6th movie from Hollywood in 2024 to make over $200k. Kung Fu Panda 4 is the 3rd best selling movie of 2024 at $545.4 Million on an $85 Million budget. Both of these movies have been great successes in a year without many.

But IF though...

$164 Million on a $110 Million budget and the tank is almost empty. That's going to be between an $80 Million and $100 Million loss for Paramount Pictures, in a year they can't afford to have any losses.



It's going to need $500 Million to break even. If I were pinned down to give a guess right now, I'd say it doesn't make much money after costs, but it does make enough money to recoup them. I'd love to see the world tell Disney that we didn't miss them, but I don't believe that's going to happen here. I haven't heard anybody at all talking about this movie, shit or otherwise. I just don't think it's on anybody's radar since nobody has really been talking about Disney.

Staying out of the theaters for 6 months may have been a very smart strategic move on their part. By the back half of 2023, Disney couldn't release anything under any of its studios without everybody in the world shit talking them.

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Friday, June 14, 2024 9:41 PM

A wild guess or not so wild

Not a Flop, Not a hit a moderate success ‘Inside Out 2’

reasons

92%/96% is good feed back...other reasons

1A known-ish brand

2Disney/Pixar can still make money even if Cinema is not the same these past years

3Kids are off, some will play some will go to cinema...Christmas and Summer is when kids movies do well.

4Economy stinks the USA and Worldwide economy so gains are limited

5Contests don't really exist - Furiosa dead, Rebel Moon is dead on arrival, Pollman dead, Fall Guy flopped, Abigail adult horror so no competition, maybe The Garfield Movie eats some of its profits or Despicable Me 4 but that doesn't arrive until July?


However the budget is ridiculously high $200 million wtf is wrong with Hollywood, other indie products and overseas movies like Godzillia from Japan with a Budget $10–12 million prove you can make cheap blockbusters

guesstimate?
it will depend on overseas money with such a budget Germany, Australia, China, SKorea, France going crazy for it.
Aussie Summer holidays are short, its more like 'Winter' vacation period in the Northern Hemisphere 1st day of July to 23rd day of July but enough time to make money, its still no big deal if Aussies go to it or not there are still the German market, Chinese box office markets etc.
I don't know release dates I'm kind of guessing a little here.

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Friday, June 14, 2024 10:56 PM

Looks like you and I think just about the same outcome for pretty much the same reasons. That budget is stupid. I'm sure this thing went into production long enough ago where they hadn't yet realized how much of a problem that would be in 2024, like most of the flops so far this year.


That being said, it did just pull in $13 Million on Preview Thursday, which is the highest preview night of 2024 so far, besting Dune: Part 2 by $1 Million and Godzilla x Kong by $3 Million.

I did that breakdown of preview nights in the Ride or Die thread last week. The only movie in the top 10 on that list that didn't follow a correlation between preview Thursday's numbers and final worldwide gross was Kung Fu Panda 4. I mentioned at the time that kids/family movies behave different than other genres and were hard to predict based off of previews. But usually that means the children's movie ends up even higher on the list than the previews would predict.

This even happened in the case of IF. That movie only had $1.7 Million in previews, it's a massive financial flop, and yet it's still 13th place for the Worldwide Box Office and is about to take 12th place from The Fall Guy. Argylle had the same $1.7 Million in previews and landed at 20th place for 2024. IF probably still has enough time to even take 11th place from that Bob Marley flick.

Granted, kids are off from school now. Had this movie been released 2 or 3 weeks ago it wouldn't have had $13 Million in previews.


It will be interesting to see what happens here. It needs an obscene amount of $500 Million to break even, but what little information we have so far makes it look like it's going to easily pass that. If it follows the same trajectory that the rest of the movies so far this year have, including children's movies, it would end up at #1 on the 2024 Worldwide Box Office, which could gross somewhere in the area of $200 Million or more in profit for Disney.



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Friday, June 14, 2024 11:22 PM

Bruce put his predictions article out very early today.

His model says it will make $121 Million this weekend. He says it could make between $100 Million and $131 Million. This is in the US alone.

If any of that is right, and if the Domestic/International split is the same as the first movie from 2015, this movie will have made somewhere in the area of $50 Million more than the budget by the end of the weekend.

He notes that this weekend's box office would be the best since Barbie's 3rd weekend in theaters last year.

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 7:24 AM

More gaslighting from the Lefty Media today...

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Disney’s dilemma

It’s a lesson that Disney learned in the wake of the pandemic.

Both Walt Disney Animation and Pixar struggled to regain a foothold at the box office after pandemic restrictions lessened and audiences returned to theaters. Much of this was due to the fact that Disney opted to debut a handful of animated features directly on streaming service Disney+ during theatrical closures and even once cinemas had reopened.

The company sought to pad the company’s fledgling streaming service with content, stretching its creative teams thin and sending theatrical movies straight to digital.

That dynamic trained parents to seek out new Disney titles on streaming, not in theaters, even when Disney opted to return its films to the big screen.

As a result of that and other challenges, no Disney animated feature from Pixar or Walt Disney Animation has generated more than $480 million at the global box office since 2019. For comparison, just before the pandemic, “Coco” generated $796 million globally, while “Incredibles 2? tallied $1.24 billion globally, and “Toy Story 4” snared $1.07 billion globally.

Box office experts are looking to “Inside Out 2” as a barometer for the health of Pixar and its future. If the film can capture attention from audiences and perform well over its opening weekend and beyond, the animation studios will regain goodwill from audiences and the industry.



6 paragraphs and they didn't even scratch the actual surface of why Disney and Pixar failed so epically hard in 2023.





Let's just say that every Executive at Disney and Pixar know full well that Five Nights at Freddy's was available to stream for free to any person who had been paying $5.99 per month for Peacock the very same day that it was released in theaters and it still managed to gross $297 Million worldwide on a $20 Million budget. This movie wound up making nearly $250 Million for Universal despite being available to stream at home on day one for free if you already were paying for a very inexpensive streaming service, or just pulled out your credit card and slapped down $5.99 for a one month membership you may or may not remember to cancel before you got billed for the next month.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Five-Nights-at-Freddys-(2023)#tab=su
mmary


Meanwhile, Disney's Wish enjoyed a full 60 day* theater exclusivity window before it was released on Disney+. It only pulled in $240 Million on a $200 Million budget and lost HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for Disney.

*Wish's release date in theaters was November 24th, 2023. Its Disney+ release date was January 23rd, 2024. See Below links for proof of those dates.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Wish-(2023)#tab=summary

https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicamercuri/2024/03/18/when-will-wish-b
e-on-disney-plus
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This is why Second's bullshit about Hollywood's current problems sound exactly like that article and none of it flies here.

This happens to be a place where very deep dives on numbers and behaviors have been studied, calculated and cataloged for nearly a year and a half. You can bullshit the normies who have no idea that this information even exists out there, let alone any idea how to make heads or tails out of it. But you can't bullshit people who have been paying attention...

Especially not the guy who has predicted nearly every success and failure of 2024 and hasn't gotten a single prediction wrong yet.

And Bad Boys: Ride or Die don't count since that "(?)" was put there from the beginning for a reason.


Disney had an ever increasing amount of pushback to their agenda films that had been boiling for years, and peaked in 2023 when it grew compoundingly worse with every release. Let me count the ways...

Peter Pan & Wendy begat Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania begat The Little Mermaid begat Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny begat Elemental begat The Haunted Mans

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 6:33 PM

As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 7:53 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

Customer, not costumer, a person or company that makes or supplies theatrical or fancy-dress costumes. I wouldn't expect a Trumptard like whozit to know that, especially one who uses the word "woke" and complains about gay characters. Still, the Trumptards probably insist they aren't prejudiced or racist or Nazis when they obviously are.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:47 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by whozit:
As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

Customer, not costumer, a person or company that makes or supplies theatrical or fancy-dress costumes. I wouldn't expect a Trumptard like whozit to know that, especially one who uses the word "woke" and complains about gay characters. Still, the Trumptards probably insist they aren't prejudiced or racist or Nazis when they obviously are.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



I'm pretty sure those paint throwing Jew haters are NOT Trump supporters. The new Dr. Who and the new Star Wars show 'The Acolyte' are both bombing because the fans have left because they're both woke AND over doing gay story lines, are the fans who left all Nazis too?

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:54 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:

I'm pretty sure those paint throwing Jew haters are NOT Trump supporters. The new Dr. Who and the new Star Wars show 'The Acolyte' are both bombing because the fans have left because they're both woke AND over doing gay story lines, are the fans who left all Nazis too?

The problem with "The Acolyte" is that it is exasperatingly bad, not that it is "woke". (The Evil Twin Sister is straight out of daytime soap operas. I will say no more so that I won't spoil it.) As for Dr Who, it is still only for small children, not for adults. How about Inside Out 2?

‘Inside Out 2’ Review

Whither Bing Bong?

By Sonny Bunch | Jun 14, 2024

Unfortunately, the emotional beats just didn’t land. Perhaps it’s because I’m not a naturally anxious person and Anxiety is the most prominent emotion on display. But I keep thinking back to Bing Bong from the first film: that character’s joyful exuberance, its understanding of its purpose, and its noble sacrifice to help its child grow were universal and deeply, profoundly moving in a way that got under the skin and into the soul.

If you like puns and you don’t mind therapy-talk, you’ll likely find much to love with Inside Out 2. Despite not loving it, I didn’t hate it; it’s occasionally cute. But it does feel empty in a way the first simply wasn’t.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/inside-out-2-review

THE JOKE ABOUT INSIDE OUT WAS THAT after giving toys feelings in Toy Story and giving cars feelings in Cars, Pixar had decided to give feelings feelings in Inside Out.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, June 16, 2024 2:59 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by whozit:
As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

Customer, not costumer, a person or company that makes or supplies theatrical or fancy-dress costumes. I wouldn't expect a Trumptard like whozit to know that, especially one who uses the word "woke" and complains about gay characters. Still, the Trumptards probably insist they aren't prejudiced or racist or Nazis when they obviously are.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



I'm pretty sure those paint throwing Jew haters are NOT Trump supporters. The new Dr. Who and the new Star Wars show 'The Acolyte' are both bombing because the fans have left because they're both woke AND over doing gay story lines, are the fans who left all Nazis too?



Don't bother trying to talk rationally to a cultist. It doesn't work.

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