Threat Assessment
POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Monday, May 27, 2024 15:37
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Anthony,
You're clearly a serious asshole. I've been yacking with these people for months. I don't recall seeing you around. I'm beginning to think that if you're working for Bush then you're probably on the road to being evil. But I don't know you from Adam, and really have no interest in knowing you any more, you clearly are completely unbothered by 2 million casualties, and are much more concerned that I have been clear about what I think we need to talk about. I've been abundantly clear. I think we need to talk about why it is that we use war as our only diplomatic tool. Since obviously in your book, challenging that policy makes someone a lunatic, nothing approaching a solution is going to come out of a debate with you.
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"Anthony,
You're clearly a serious asshole. I've been yacking with these people for months. I don't recall seeing you around. I'm beginning to think that if you're working for Bush then you're probably on the road to being evil. But I don't know you from Adam, and really have no interest in knowing you any more, you clearly are completely unbothered by 2 million casualties, and are much more concerned that I have been clear about what I think we need to talk about. I've been abundantly clear. I think we need to talk about why it is that we use war as our only diplomatic tool. Since obviously in your book, challenging that policy makes someone a lunatic, nothing approaching a solution is going to come out of a debate with you."
Dude,
I think you're a lunatic for ranting and raving and hurling names at me. If someone did that to you, I hope you'd think there was something wrong with them. You obviously DON'T know me from Adam, because I've been critical of the war policy for the last year or so. In fact, I think the day I finally surrendered to the idea that the war was a bogus mess was when the torture scandal surfaced. I posted my views on it when it happened on THIS VERY BOARD. I've been around, man. Maybe if I cussed more you'd notice more?
Thing is, you seem to have gotten into an US and THEM mentality. There's US reasonable folks and THEM unreasonable folks and you seem to be looking for opportunities to pummel THEM. But man, you've totally become THEM. You've aligned me with Bush, compared me to Bin Laden, and called me evil. Why? Because I called you on some totally lame 'debate' tactics. I didn't make up that you were baiting people. You said it, plain English. And man, there is no other use for bait except in conjunction with a trap. The fact that your 'debate' is just an excuse to hurl vehemence at people is plain in your treatment of me. You're beating up the choir, man. Your own friggin choir.
So if anyone who disagrees with you on any level is an evil, equal to Bin Laden, A-Hole, then you've totally become what you despise. You've morphed into the 'Anyone who disagrees with me is an enemy of Freedom' mindset. And if that's how you think and how you argue, then "nothing approaching a solution is going to come out of a debate with you."
Take a look in the mirror, Dreamtrove. Read your rants and raves. Read how you cussed out someone who actually agrees that the war is a bogus mess.
Is this how you want people to see you? Cause you are totally ruining your point.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Actually, I've been trying to have a debate, and you came at me with both guns blazing, and you're suprised I fired back?
I'm not sure which planet you live on. I wanted people who support this war, which there are several of on this board, to try to argue something other than "it's because iraq attacked us on 9/11" or "well we're there now, so let's invade iran and syria."
I wanted people to actually discuss why we might be doing this, if there was a reason, cause if there's a reason other than to kill people for fun and steal their oil, I want to hear it.
And as is painfully obvious, your analysis of me has nothing to do with me because you don't know me from Adam either. You came forward with your analysis of me ready in hand.
BTW, people who torture children for fun *are* the enemy, whether their on our side or not. I think that everyone from John McCain to Teddy Kennedy agrees.
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This was the up-front topic of this thread:
“Who represents a threat, to what or whom do they represent a threat and what do we do about it?”
This was the rapidly deployed agenda of this thread:
“You know Chris, this was my ninth and final attempt to bait the supporter of either Clinton or Bush to talk”
This was my response: (I guess this qualifies as two blazing guns.)
“Wow. I was interested in this discussion until I read this. I hope whoever you were trying to bait (nine times already?) read this and got discouraged too. Whether they are right or wrong about anything else, they'd be able to legitimately wag their finger at you for this. (Thanks Steven Colbert!)”
This was your response to me: (Blazing everything in plain sight.)
“I'm speechless. To say that they're cowards, that you are a coward, doesn't even begin to cover it. These people feel their divine spin needs to be protected that they can endlessly lie and never have to try to explain to anyone why they did it, it simply boggles the mind…You're worse then Bin Laden. Oh, is that alarming? Not just worse, Much Much worse. Bin Laden is still very wrong, but not only did he tell us why he did it, he didn't kill anywhere near as many people…Thanks, Anthony, you've tipped me off to the real true threat in this country. Forget the rest of it, the real threat is you.”
I won’t bother copying and pasting the expletives. Dreamtrove, let me be clear.
I don’t need to know you from Adam to know this: Creating a false topic to bait people into what can best be described as a bash fest is wrong. I told you it was wrong. And you told me… well… a lot of very mean and angry things. It is as though your ‘debate’ tactics are totally disconnected from your politics. I called you wrong and you called me the axis of evil. I wagged my finger and you spit vehemence.
“you came at me with both guns blazing, and you're suprised I fired back?”
Yes. I was very surprised at the strength and anger of your response. But I shouldn’t have been. It’s often hard to tell the difference between the attitudes and rhetoric on both sides of the political fence. In listening to your response to me, I find that I can find your words directly in the mouths of politicians at both extremes. I will consider it a lesson in human nature. We all have something in common, after all.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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