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THG
Thursday, May 9, 2024 1:13 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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THUGR: This belt and road video is in response to your posting how it was a good thing.


OMFG.

Are you being stupid on purpose??????

I never posted that it was "a good thing!"

In fact, I criticized it, along with China's other Next Big Thing projects.

YOU EVEN QUOTED IT IN YOUR RESPONSE!

Here, let me help you with your reading comprehension!


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BTW not a fan of China. I have long criticized their economic and financial policies. One of their boneheaded policies is throwing their not- inconsiderable national wealth, provincial bonds, and individual savings into The Next Big Thing, whether that is Belt and Road, EV manufacturing, infrastructure over- development, or real estate speculation. Also, their dependence on being an exporting nation with a positive balqnce of trade (the Japan and S Korea model). I think those are stupid decisions based on expediency. So, yeah, China: good luck with that.


Jeez!! I may have a problem with my hearing, but you have a problem with your brain!






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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THUGR, I question AGAIN whether you even listened to your video.

It is, once again, A GUY OPINING over a bunch of distracting pictures (meaningless charts, USA soldiers in exercises, bigwigs sitting around a table) ...

And in it, like the previous video, he makes a number of assertions withiut a shred of data to back it up.

For example:" China has hollowed out the less developed countires of their resources and the more developed countries of their manufacturing. "
He makes this statement without reference to anyone's ACTUAL GDP TRENDS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

It's true that manufacturing in the collective west has been hollowed out. But that's not CHINA'S doing. It was the CEOS of multiple manufacturers who decided to relocate there.

What about the less developed world?

I dunno. China is investing huge amounts of money in infrastructure development ... roads, railways, ports, communications .. in central and western Asia (AKA the 'stans and the mideast) and Africa in exchange for raw materials. I understand China's model. They need to keep their population busy and out of trouble, and one way they can do that is import raw materials and export finished goods. They have turned away from the USA and the EU as a market and are turning to "the global south".

Whether that turns into a net positive for these less developed nations depends on whether the benefits are soaked up in internal corruotion and whether the leadership is forward thinking.

But Iranians, Syrians, and many African nations are currently in the midst of an economic boom. That's not "hollowed out". (BTW, not a big fan of China, but reality is is what reality is.)[/font]

His next topic is LACK OF FORWARD THINKING BY OUR POLITICAL CLASS.
Something I've been bitching about for decades.

Congress, he says, is a bunch of dummies.
Jeez, no shit.

He then says China is a landlocked country.
Has he not even looked at a map showing Chinas ginormous coastline???

OMFG, how can you trust anyone who makes such a boneheaded statement????

He says: "China is not our enemy. The DOD uses it to justify their budgets"

AT THAT POINT, I GAVE UP.

He hasn't even looked at a map, much less doing research into facts on the ground, for ANY of his statements.

No facts, no figures, no data, no thought.

For your own understanding of the world, you should insist on better, MUCH better, sources of information. Information that can be verified. Not somebody's glib blather.







You're talking China up here moron. You've changed your perspective to save pride. I destroyed you with facts.

T

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Thursday, May 9, 2024 2:28 AM


Quote:

THUGR: This belt and road video is in response to your posting how it was a good thing.

SIGNY:

OMFG.
Are you being stupid on purpose??????
I never posted that it was "a good thing!"
In fact, I criticized it, along with China's other Next Big Thing projects.
YOU EVEN QUOTED IT IN YOUR RESPONSE!

Here, let me help you with your reading comprehension!

Quote:

BTW not a fan of China. I have long criticized their economic and financial policies. One of their boneheaded policies is throwing their not- inconsiderable national wealth, provincial bonds, and individual savings into The Next Big Thing, whether that is Belt and Road, EV manufacturing, infrastructure over- development, or real estate speculation. Also, their dependence on being an exporting nation with a positive balqnce of trade (the Japan and S Korea model). I think those are stupid decisions based on expediency. So, yeah, China: good luck with that.


Jeez!! I may have a problem with my hearing, but you have a problem with your brain!



THUGR QUOTING SIGNY:
Quote:

THUGR, I question AGAIN whether you even listened to your video.

It is, once again, A GUY OPINING over a bunch of distracting pictures (meaningless charts, USA soldiers in exercises, bigwigs sitting around a table) ...

And in it, like the previous video, he makes a number of assertions withiut a shred of data to back it up.

For example:" China has hollowed out the less developed countires of their resources and the more developed countries of their manufacturing. "
He makes this statement without reference to anyone's ACTUAL GDP TRENDS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.




My objection to this statement isn't that it's TRUE OR FALSE. I post, later, that China's investment in other countries could be GOOD OR BAD, DEPENDING.
My objection is that his statement is UNSUPPORTED BY DATA.


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THUGR QUOTING SIGNY:
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It's true that manufacturing in the collective west has been hollowed out. But that's not CHINA'S doing. It was the CEOS of multiple manufacturers who decided to relocate there.

What about the less developed world?

I dunno. China is investing huge amounts of money in infrastructure development ... roads, railways, ports, communications .. in central and western Asia (AKA the 'stans and the mideast) and Africa in exchange for raw materials. I understand China's model. They need to keep their population busy and out of trouble, and one way they can do that is import raw materials and export finished goods. They have turned away from the USA and the EU as a market and are turning to "the global south".

Whether that turns into a net positive for these less developed nations depends on whether the benefits are soaked up in internal corruotion and whether the leadership is forward thinking.

But Iranians, Syrians, and many African nations are currently in the midst of an economic boom. That's not "hollowed out". (BTW, not a big fan of China, but reality is is what reality is.)



So here I will be more explicit in my thinking.

I have read of loans made to various nations ... Indonesia and Pakistan come to mind ... that were very unwise for those nations to have taken on. As I recall, they were both for deepwater ports. The ports never attracted the revenues that they were supposed to, and those revenues were to pay off the loans.

China also loaned money to Iceland back in 2008/2009. The terms were strict, Iceland paid off its loan with fish.

So it depends on how loan repayments are to be made, and if they can be backed or partially backed by commodities or if this is all based on currency exchanges and anticipated revenues.

Like I said: internal corruption or lack of forward thinki

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Thursday, May 9, 2024 4:16 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
You're talking China up here moron. You've changed your perspective to save pride. I destroyed you with facts.



The only thing a Democrat has ever destroyed anyone with is lies.

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THG
Thursday, May 9, 2024 5:51 AM

Pay attention, a history and economics lesson. Comrade signym, you wanted charts and graphs, get ready to have your mind blown.

T


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Thursday, May 9, 2024 1:59 PM

"Stalin, not because of who he was or what he did but by who he SCARED.... US "
I guess beating the Nazis wasn't very important.
Neither was helping to chase the Japs out of China, and saving the fledging nationalist and, eventually, communist government.
Since those didn't affect US, directly, in his mind it never happened..

"We changed how everything would work"
Everything? Did we change anything in Africa? S and Central America? India? Asia?

"We had to change how "the world" worked"
The world? Same question.

So that any one could safely go anywhere, interface with any market, any community, any commodity.."
Except the Warsaw pact countries, China, and S and Central American nations who were in thrall to the USA.
"We" were not about "free trade".
What we are about was maintaining our grip on our economic and financial colonies, including the Mideast (oil), Chile (copper) etc. And we regime-changed a bunchnif nations to keep it that way.

*****

I think you see where I'm going with this, THUGR. Altho he pretends to be a geopolitical wizard. Zeihan has a blind spot as big as the entire non- Western world.

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Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:52 PM

I'm going to guess that your mind wasn't blown by Ted's TED Talk, huh Sigs?



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Thursday, May 9, 2024 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm going to guess that your mind wasn't blown by Ted's TED Talk, huh Sigs?



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Not so far.
I got about 8 minutes into it when I realized that his long, convoluted intro was all about the "demographic transition" ... which I already know about ... when a people change from being primarily agricultural and rural to being industrialized and urban. That's when childbirth rates plummet.

And that he was hanging a bunch ... assumptions? propaganda? .... about how this phenomenon came about because the USA "won" WWII and changed "the world" to become globalist. In 1945.

And that youthful agricultural societies are consumption and growth- based.

Growing population, maybe, but agricultural societies are generally poor and don't consume much, per person. Just look at Africa and India. You can't consume what you don't have money to buy.

Anyway, I'll see where he's going with this when I'm doing dishes or something. But right now his talk is so riven with inconsistencies that it's hard to see how he can hit on any valid predictions bc his model is IMHO faulty.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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THG
Friday, May 10, 2024 3:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Stalin, not because of who he was or what he did but by who he SCARED.... US "
I guess beating the Nazis wasn't very important.
Neither was helping to chase the Japs out of China, and saving the fledging nationalist and, eventually, communist government.
Since those didn't affect US, directly, in his mind it never happened..

"We changed how everything would work"
Everything? Did we change anything in Africa? S and Central America? India? Asia?

"We had to change how "the world" worked"
The world? Same question.

So that any one could safely go anywhere, interface with any market, any community, any commodity.."
Except the Warsaw pact countries, China, and S and Central American nations who were in thrall to the USA.
"We" were not about "free trade".
What we are about was maintaining our grip on our economic and financial colonies, including the Mideast (oil), Chile (copper) etc. And we regime-changed a bunchnif nations to keep it that way.

*****

I think you see where I'm going with this, THUGR. Altho he pretends to be a geopolitical wizard. Zeihan has a blind spot as big as the entire non- Western world.







Ok comrade, let's see charts and graphs with numbers to back up what you ranted about. It's why you criticized Ziehan, and why I posted a video of his with charts, graphs and numbers. Or are you nothing but bullshit? Come on, show us the evidence showing you are correct.

Waiting here...

T

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Friday, May 10, 2024 4:26 AM

Fuck off Ted.

You wouldn't know how to read a chart if you were presented with one.

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Friday, May 10, 2024 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fuck off Ted.

You wouldn't know how to read a chart if you were presented with one.

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He will also be your next President.



Like the previous video where there was a bar "chart" going up and down and the axes weren't even labeled or numbered. What did all those lines going up and down mean?
Who knows????

*****

Real busy THUGR. Since this is video I have to watch I can't just do dishes and listen.
Later.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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